Obesity is NOT beautiful! :(

[Coyote]

Nope. Not claiming that. Try to read.

I never claimed other factors did not play a role. What I am saying is that obesity is most certainly due to laziness in a lot of cases. To deny that, is to deny reality and to be pretty much claiming that people are "ideal" and always do what is right or best.

What you said is non-lazy fat people are "outliers" - that's implies that lazyness plays a major role. You have posted nothing to support that.

Normally, unless you have a chemical imbalance, when you exercise and are active, you LOSE weight. That is just common sense. Calories in/calories out.

Read the research - it really isn't so simple.

It is that simple in very many instances. I type about these kinds of people ALL the time.

In other words, you aren't about to let the facts get in the way of your preconceptions.

 

[ChrisL]

Economic Costs

Calculating Obesity Costs per Person
Several investigators have evaluated the cost of obesity on an individual level. Finkelstein and colleagues found that in 2006, per capita medical spending for obese individuals was an additional $1,429 (42 percent higher) compared to individuals of normal weight. (7) Cawley and Meyerhoefer, meanwhile, found that per capita medical spending was $2,741 higher for obese individuals than for individuals who were not obese—a 150 percent increase. (1)

Thompson and colleagues concluded that, over the course of a lifetime, per-person costs for obesity were similar to those for smoking. (10) In middle-age men, treatment of five common obesity-related conditions (stroke, coronary artery disease, diabetes, hypertension, and elevated cholesterol) resulted in roughly $9,000 to $17,000 higher costs compared to normal-weight adults.

 

[ChrisL]

I never claimed other factors did not play a role. What I am saying is that obesity is most certainly due to laziness in a lot of cases. To deny that, is to deny reality and to be pretty much claiming that people are "ideal" and always do what is right or best.

What you said is non-lazy fat people are "outliers" - that's implies that lazyness plays a major role. You have posted nothing to support that.

Normally, unless you have a chemical imbalance, when you exercise and are active, you LOSE weight. That is just common sense. Calories in/calories out.

Read the research - it really isn't so simple.

It is that simple in very many instances. I type about these kinds of people ALL the time.

In other words, you aren't about to let the facts get in the way of your preconceptions.

I think I am cognizant of the facts. It seems as if you are the one who doesn't want to admit to the facts. A lot of people ARE lazy. That is the reason why they are sedentary because there is otherwise nothing wrong with them, other than overeating and lack of exercise.

 

[ChrisL]

I never claimed other factors did not play a role. What I am saying is that obesity is most certainly due to laziness in a lot of cases. To deny that, is to deny reality and to be pretty much claiming that people are "ideal" and always do what is right or best.

What you said is non-lazy fat people are "outliers" - that's implies that lazyness plays a major role. You have posted nothing to support that.

Normally, unless you have a chemical imbalance, when you exercise and are active, you LOSE weight. That is just common sense. Calories in/calories out.

Read the research - it really isn't so simple.

It is that simple in very many instances. I type about these kinds of people ALL the time.

In other words, you aren't about to let the facts get in the way of your preconceptions.

I mean, you can keep arguing that lazy people are not contributing to obesity or that obese people are not generally lazy, but that is kind of a silly position to take. We KNOW people are lazy and don't want to exercise. We know this.

 

[TrinityPower]

None of those facts say anything about lazyness. That's your OPINION sweetie.

Oh okay. It has NOTHING to do with laziness. Lol. Hilarious! You are in denial. DENIAL.

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Lord above,,,,,what a ................

what a........ !@#$%^&*()_

Then get lost, crazy lady. You are of no consequence to anything at all.

Come join our group skye, Everyone who disagrees with her is a crazy lady. Me, you, Bonzi and many I have forgotten. Apparently there are quite the number of us who are crazy according to her. Let's just be crazy together lol

 

[ChrisL]

Oh okay. It has NOTHING to do with laziness. Lol. Hilarious! You are in denial. DENIAL.

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Lord above,,,,,what a ................

what a........ !@#$%^&*()_

Then get lost, crazy lady. You are of no consequence to anything at all.

Come join our group skye, Everyone who disagrees with her is a crazy lady. Me, you, Bonzi and many I have forgotten. Apparently there are quite the number of us who are crazy according to her. Let's just be crazy together lol

Try to stay on topic, please. TYIA. I'm sorry but when you lash out at one's personal life and add nothing at all to the topic, then yes, that is crazy.

 

[TrinityPower]

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Lord above,,,,,what a ................

what a........ !@#$%^&*()_

Then get lost, crazy lady. You are of no consequence to anything at all.

Therein lies the main reason your are viewed with a jaundiced eye. You meltdown and get vicious. I will take a fat body over your fat head any day of the week.

Look at you with your dishonest quote of OldStyle. You have NO room to talk about anyone else, sleaze.

I spy with my little eye...a Patriot fan! I don't care who you are that is a funny joke

 

[ChrisL]

I never claimed other factors did not play a role. What I am saying is that obesity is most certainly due to laziness in a lot of cases. To deny that, is to deny reality and to be pretty much claiming that people are "ideal" and always do what is right or best.

What you said is non-lazy fat people are "outliers" - that's implies that lazyness plays a major role. You have posted nothing to support that.

Normally, unless you have a chemical imbalance, when you exercise and are active, you LOSE weight. That is just common sense. Calories in/calories out.

Read the research - it really isn't so simple.

It is that simple in very many instances. I type about these kinds of people ALL the time.

In other words, you aren't about to let the facts get in the way of your preconceptions.

So do you think that laziness is not a contributing factor in lack of physical activity and a sedentary lifestyle?

 

[ChrisL]

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Lord above,,,,,what a ................

what a........ !@#$%^&*()_

Then get lost, crazy lady. You are of no consequence to anything at all.

Therein lies the main reason your are viewed with a jaundiced eye. You meltdown and get vicious. I will take a fat body over your fat head any day of the week.

Look at you with your dishonest quote of OldStyle. You have NO room to talk about anyone else, sleaze.

I spy with my little eye...a Patriot fan! I don't care who you are that is a funny joke

Hey! If you cannot stay on topic and have nothing to add, then get out. Okay? I don't need the crazy ladies ganging up on me. This is a legitimate and important discussion! GET a grip on yourself please.

 

[ChrisL]

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Lord above,,,,,what a ................

what a........ !@#$%^&*()_

Then get lost, crazy lady. You are of no consequence to anything at all.

Therein lies the main reason your are viewed with a jaundiced eye. You meltdown and get vicious. I will take a fat body over your fat head any day of the week.

Look at you with your dishonest quote of OldStyle. You have NO room to talk about anyone else, sleaze.

I spy with my little eye...a Patriot fan! I don't care who you are that is a funny joke

Now, I have asked you several times nicely and politely to stay on topic. Please return my civility and try to remain on topic. If not, there is no need for you to be here posting.

 

[Coyote]

What you said is non-lazy fat people are "outliers" - that's implies that lazyness plays a major role. You have posted nothing to support that.

Normally, unless you have a chemical imbalance, when you exercise and are active, you LOSE weight. That is just common sense. Calories in/calories out.

Read the research - it really isn't so simple.

It is that simple in very many instances. I type about these kinds of people ALL the time.

In other words, you aren't about to let the facts get in the way of your preconceptions.

I mean, you can keep arguing that lazy people are not contributing to obesity or that obese people are not generally lazy, but that is kind of a silly position to take. We KNOW people are lazy and don't want to exercise. We know this.

I prefer to stick to what research shows rather than popular belief as in your "everyone knows" fallacy.

 

[TrinityPower]

I have been discussing the topic and incorporating your degenerated mental status into the mix. Appearance is only a part of what is considered attractive it is the mental, spiritual and emotional heath that also helps to make a person attractive. You obviously take a pass on the latter with your hate speeches and body shaming.

I think you and your old lady troll friend need to go somewhere else where you are welcome. Perhaps the pictures thread?

Keep on banging those keys and spanking that monkey you vicious, hateful, mindless twit.

<<<---chrisl after a day at usmb(model is much much younger and better looking)




A person 's size does not diminish their value as a human being.

she is not half that attractive

you are missing the picture here...totally wrong here

My God

Nah read the fine print next to the gif. I did not want to post the real chriusl and hurt the sensibilities of this board.

Good Lord, you are an illiterate moron. What makes you think anyone cares about you or your opinion. This is just a message board. Nobody cares. Most people have real lives of their own outside of this . . . mental institution, so your opinions about me are completely irrelevant. Understand?

Do you have something you wanted to add to the topic of obesity? If not, I would suggest you piss off.

Uh oh Alex. she dismissed you too. We best all go stand out in the hall. She is throwing her weight around Look out!!

 

[Coyote]

What you said is non-lazy fat people are "outliers" - that's implies that lazyness plays a major role. You have posted nothing to support that.

Normally, unless you have a chemical imbalance, when you exercise and are active, you LOSE weight. That is just common sense. Calories in/calories out.

Read the research - it really isn't so simple.

It is that simple in very many instances. I type about these kinds of people ALL the time.

In other words, you aren't about to let the facts get in the way of your preconceptions.

So do you think that laziness is not a contributing factor in lack of physical activity and a sedentary lifestyle?

I'm sure it can be for some individuals, but like I said - research doesn't seem to support your sweeping conclusions.

 

[ChrisL]

I think you and your old lady troll friend need to go somewhere else where you are welcome. Perhaps the pictures thread?

Keep on banging those keys and spanking that monkey you vicious, hateful, mindless twit.

<<<---chrisl after a day at usmb(model is much much younger and better looking)




A person 's size does not diminish their value as a human being.

she is not half that attractive

you are missing the picture here...totally wrong here

My God

Nah read the fine print next to the gif. I did not want to post the real chriusl and hurt the sensibilities of this board.

Good Lord, you are an illiterate moron. What makes you think anyone cares about you or your opinion. This is just a message board. Nobody cares. Most people have real lives of their own outside of this . . . mental institution, so your opinions about me are completely irrelevant. Understand?

Do you have something you wanted to add to the topic of obesity? If not, I would suggest you piss off.

Uh oh Alex. she dismissed you too. We best all go stand out in the hall. She is throwing her weight around Look out!!

Again, you should really TRY to stick to the topic of this thread. Your name was not mentioned anywhere. Okay? If you cannot stay on point, then you really have no reason at all to be posting here unless you are trolling. Is that what you are trying to do? Troll?

Now, you can mind your business too. Okay?

 

[ChrisL]

Normally, unless you have a chemical imbalance, when you exercise and are active, you LOSE weight. That is just common sense. Calories in/calories out.

Read the research - it really isn't so simple.

It is that simple in very many instances. I type about these kinds of people ALL the time.

In other words, you aren't about to let the facts get in the way of your preconceptions.

So do you think that laziness is not a contributing factor in lack of physical activity and a sedentary lifestyle?

I'm sure it can be for some individuals, but like I said - research doesn't seem to support your sweeping conclusions.

It's true. People are lazy. You can deny that all day long though. No skin off my nose.

 

[ChrisL]

Modern technology has made us lazy. We have remote controls for everything. Kids have their nose in their video games or their phones. They aren't really doing much in the way of "physical activity." We don't have to work nearly as hard for things as we were probably designed to do. Now, I think all of these things are just simply common sense and obvious to anyone.

 

[Coyote]

Modern technology has made us lazy. We have remote controls for everything. Kids have their nose in their video games or their phones. They aren't really doing much in the way of "physical activity." We don't have to work nearly as hard for things as we were probably designed to do. Now, I think all of these things are just simply common sense and obvious to anyone.

That's part of the environmental problem. We work hard, but the nature of our work has changed.

 

[ChrisL]

Normally, unless you have a chemical imbalance, when you exercise and are active, you LOSE weight. That is just common sense. Calories in/calories out.

Read the research - it really isn't so simple.

It is that simple in very many instances. I type about these kinds of people ALL the time.

In other words, you aren't about to let the facts get in the way of your preconceptions.

I mean, you can keep arguing that lazy people are not contributing to obesity or that obese people are not generally lazy, but that is kind of a silly position to take. We KNOW people are lazy and don't want to exercise. We know this.

I prefer to stick to what research shows rather than popular belief as in your "everyone knows" fallacy.

You know, I've asked Trinity a number of times now to stay on topic. Considering that you are a moderator, I would appreciate it if you could tell her so that we can keep this thread troll free. If we keep the trolls out and avoid the trolling nonsense, then we can have a reasonable discussion without all of the other nonsense. More pleasant for ALL involved, if you ask me.

 

[Alex.]

Modern technology has made us lazy. We have remote controls for everything. Kids have their nose in their video games or their phones. They aren't really doing much in the way of "physical activity." We don't have to work nearly as hard for things as we were probably designed to do. Now, I think all of these things are just simply common sense and obvious to anyone.

I coach a boy's football team nothing lazy about these guys.

 

[ChrisL]

Modern technology has made us lazy. We have remote controls for everything. Kids have their nose in their video games or their phones. They aren't really doing much in the way of "physical activity." We don't have to work nearly as hard for things as we were probably designed to do. Now, I think all of these things are just simply common sense and obvious to anyone.

That's part of the environmental problem. We work hard, but the nature of our work has changed.

The fact remains that laziness does indeed contribute to obesity.