Obama's State of the Union QUIZ: I'll have a "P" please Mr President

What "P" is at war with the US yet not named by President Obama in his SOTU 2014?

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State of the Union 2014 - Quiz

What "P" is a country which hosts terrorists who have killed thousands of Americans and are targeted by US drones, gets billions of US taxpayer dollars in aid yet can afford to buy more and more nuclear weapons, but despite the threat and danger to the US from this country, it wasn't even named by the President in his State of the Union speech in 2014?

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We all remember the State of the Union longest round of applause that went to wounded veteran U.S. Army Ranger Sgt. First Class Cory Remsburg, who was blown up and nearly killed by a road-side bomb in Afghanistan.

Most of those road-side bombs that have killed and injured thousands of Americans in Afghanistan are made and planted by Taliban forces sent across the border into Afghanistan from what country, begins with a "P"?


Well it's an easy question to answer but now for the harder political questions and my answers.

Why didn't President Obama name this dangerous country-name-begins-with-a-P in his State of the Union speech?

Iran is a dangerous country which Obama named 10 times in his State of the Union speech.

Then again Obama has quite a robust policy to confront and to contain Iran.

Whether Obama's Iran policy is good enough for everyone's satisfaction is another matter. But his Iran policy is good enough for Obama to be able to stand in front of the American people, to defend his policy, maybe get a round of applause too.

Obama also has a policy about Afghanistan that he must talk about because American troops are in harm's way there and his policy of withdrawing and ending the war in Afghanistan, is a dove-policy, it's an Obama-policy but it is not a policy to stop the terrorism coming over the border from this unnamed country, coming to Afghanistan and coming to America maybe like they did before on 9/11.

Obama has no policy to boast about as regards this dangerous country (name begins with a "P"); his policy - "diplomacy, aid & drones" is so weak and ineffective, so dove-like when a hawk-like policy is required, so Obama-when-we-need-JFK that Obama prefers not to speak the name of this dangerous country (begins with a "P") in his State of the Union speech.

Say the name of this country Mr President. Say it and come up with a better, tougher, more effective, hawk-like policy to deal with it.

How Pakistan secretly sponsors Al Qaeda & the Taliban

The BBC's Secret Pakistan videos.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSinK-dVrig]Secret Pakistan : Documentary by BBC Part 1 (Double Cross) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5-lSSC9dSE]Secret Pakistan : Documentary by BBC Part 2 (Backlash) - YouTube[/ame]
 
Bottom line?

Most of these countries would be a lot less "threatening" if we stopped messing with them.

That includes with their governments, natural resources, land and people.

The US does not own the world.
 
Bottom line?

Most of these countries would be a lot less "threatening" if we stopped messing with them.

That includes with their governments, natural resources, land and people.

The US does not own the world.

doing business with them is a problem for them....?
helping their governments fight their battles is a problem for them....?
letting them attend our schools is a problem for them.....?
giving them tons of aid is a problem for them.....?

bottom line....as Daniel Pipes says.....the Islamists hate us simply because they are not in charge of us....
 
Falling short on Afghanistan
Washington Post
By Editorial Board, Published: January 30
Falling short on Afghanistan - The Washington Post

PRESIDENT OBAMA returned in his State of the Union address to a familiar slogan: The war in Afghanistan “is finally coming to an end.” That, of course, is not true: As 29 million Afghans could testify, there is no end to the conflict in sight. Mr. Obama equates the end of the war with the end of U.S. combat operations. “Together with our allies,” he told Congress on Tuesday, “we will complete our mission there by the end of this year.”

Even that is not true — at least, not according to the president’s announced plan. Mr. Obama reiterated his commitment to leave behind U.S. trainers and logistical support to assist the Afghan army, as well as a counterterrorism force to “pursue any remnants of al-Qaeda” — which presumably would involve military action. Though the president didn’t specify the size of the force, the U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Marine Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., has reportedly recommended that it total 10,000 troops, complemented by several thousand more from NATO allies.

The continuing mission has overwhelming logic in its favor, both for Afghanistan and for the United States. Both have a vital interest in preserving the hard-won gains of the past dozen years — from the construction of a fledgling democracy to the education of a generation of girls. Though al-Qaeda has been driven from Afghanistan, it would likely return to the country in company with Taliban allies in the absence of a U.S. deterrent. Without U.S. troops and bases in Afghanistan, the United States also would be ill-placed to mount operations against terrorist targets in Pakistan.

Not surprisingly, polls show that Afghans broadly support a continuing U.S. mission, as do most members of President Hamid Karzai’s cabinet, most of the U.S. national security establishment and almost all NATO governments. But the project is in serious danger because two crucial actors are falling short: Mr. Karzai and Mr. Obama.

Mr. Karzai’s counterproductive behavior has been getting the brunt of attention in Washington. His wild allegations about U.S. military misconduct are deeply offensive, but worse is his refusal to sign the bilateral security agreement he negotiated with the Obama administration and presented to a national assembly of notables for endorsement. Without the agreement, which sets the legal basis for a continued U.S. presence, the United States would be forced into a full withdrawal.

The administration has the option of sidestepping Mr. Karzai, who is due to be replaced in a presidential election scheduled for April. It could plan for a continued presence and even announce its dimensions with the expectation that the new president would sign on; virtually all of the candidates have expressed support. It could buy time with a brief extension of the existing military agreement. Instead, Mr. Obama has played into Mr. Karzai’s hands by setting deadlines for his signature and hinting that he will embrace a “zero option” if the matter is not soon settled.

The president is also communicating the wrong message to Americans with speeches proclaiming “the end of America’s longest war.” If a continued U.S. mission is to be supported by the public and funded by Congress — which just slashed this year’s Afghanistan funding — Mr. Obama must make the case why it is in the national interest for troops to remain. That he does virtually the opposite makes him complicit with Mr. Karzai in undermining a major national security interest.



The dangers in Pakistan, Afghanistan
Chicago Tribune.
Editorials February 3, 2014
President Barack Obama didn't dwell on Afghanistan or Pakistan in his State of the Union speech. No wonder. - chicagotribune.com

President Barack Obama barely touched on the Afghanistan war in his State of the Union address last week. He didn't even mention Pakistan, where Taliban terrorists are on the attack again.

We don't blame him:

• Last November, a U.S. drone strike killed Hakimullah Mehsud, the brutal Pakistani Taliban leader who led a network blamed for the deaths of thousands of Pakistani civilians in suicide bombings. That devastating blow offered Pakistan's leaders a prime opportunity to roll up even more Taliban commanders, to take the offensive in a fight that has raged for years.

Instead, Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif suspended counterterrorist operations against Taliban militants and sought to negotiate a deal to end the insurgency. Sharif agreed to allow the new Taliban leader, Maulana Fazlullah, time to consolidate his leadership over several Taliban factions, in hopes that Fazlullah would come to the negotiation table with greater political clout.

Never mind that such truces have failed over and over in the past decade.

What happened? Exactly what you'd expect. Fazlullah exploited the government lull to regroup and rearm. In recent weeks he has launched a major new offensive in three major cities, killing scores of people. The Taliban have attacked the major southern port city of Karachi, a hub of Pakistan's economy. Among those killed: Karachi's top counterterrorism police officer.

Sharif took office last May. He ran a campaign "that deliberately ignored the Pakistani Taliban, and tacitly has sent the message that cooperation with the U.S. should be limited," Anthony Cordesman, an expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, told The Wall Street Journal.

The results are depressingly familiar. Sharif has learned the same lesson as previous Pakistan leaders: The Taliban have no interest in negotiating or sharing power. They're terrorists who target civilians. They must be defeated.

• The Taliban resurgence in Pakistan also looms as a threat to neighboring Afghanistan. Most U.S. troops are set to leave Afghanistan by the end of the year. In last week's speech, Obama repeated his pledge to deploy a robust residual U.S. force to mount counterterrorism operations and train Afghan security forces. All of that hinges on a security agreement negotiated last year by the U.S. and Afghanistan, but still unsigned by Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

Karzai says he won't sign unless he gets more concessions from the U.S. Obama says the deal's done, take it or leave it. The U.S. has recently raised again the prospect of a "zero option," yanking all troops. The prospects of breaking this stalemate before Karzai leaves office after elections, slated for April: Nil.

There's plenty of speculation about Karzai's mental state and motivation. Maybe he wants to cut a better deal. Maybe he just wants to leave office with a flourish, bragging to his fellow countrymen that he stood up to the U.S.

Either way, Karzai "has really gone from maddeningly unpredictable to dangerously erratic," White House adviser John Podesta told NPR late last year. The latest outrage: An Afghan-led prisoner review board recently ordered the release from detention of 37 insurgents, some of whom are accused of attacking U.S. troops. That was a direct thumb in the eye to Washington.

Astonishingly, Karzai now blames the U.S. for insurgent-style attacks to undermine his government, The Washington Post reports. He has compiled "a list of dozens of attacks that he believes the U.S. government may have been involved in," a palace official told the Post.

Whew. Dangerously erratic and a delusional conspiracy theorist.

The best U.S. option is, as much as possible, to ignore Karzai's ranting. He's a lame duck. There will be a new Afghan president soon. The major presidential candidates have indicated they would sign the agreement. There's still plenty of time to sign a deal and keep a robust force of Americans in Afghanistan. That's still vital for anti-terrorism operations.

If the U.S pulled all its forces from Afghanistan, drone bases in that country would likely have to be closed. That would cripple efforts to strike al-Qaida and Taliban targets across a wide swath of mountainous territory on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. It would let terrorists regroup and rearm with impunity.

That's why American forces must continue to target terror leaders and demolish safe havens in those countries. It's frustrating that the U.S. still can't depend on Pakistan or Afghanistan to be reliable partners.


Both the Washington Post and the Chicago Tribune have seen the massive gap in the President's State of the Union Speech and have commented on it.

However I approve of the Washington Post's tone of reprimand of the President but I think the Chicago Tribune, remembering that Barack Obama was once a Senator for Chicago, is talking loyalty too far in "not blaming" the President for his omissions and wrong messages in his State of the Union speech.

So I fired off a tweet at the Chicago Tribune then a few more at the White House and at President Obama's National Security Advisor Susan Rice as follows.

  • @chicagotribune Blame Obama weak policy vs Pakistani terror but ridicule him not mentioning Pakistan in #SOTU #AfPak

  • @Whitehouse @AmbassadorRice suggest tougher "ultimatums. sanctions, war" policy versus Pakistani state-sponsored terror #AfPak #waronterror

  • @WhiteHouse @AmbassadorRice Current Pakistan policy weak & ineffective vs military who dictate policy to sponsor terror #AfPak #waronterror

  • @WhiteHouse @AmbassadorRice Invisible Pakistan strategy should be as embarrassing to Obama as King with no clothes #AfPak #waronterror

  • @WhiteHouse @AmbassadorRice President should expose his manhood to Michelle but spare blushes with a Pakistan strategy in his #SOTU #AfPak

  • @WhiteHouse @AmbassadorRice President may be well hung but not with a policy to counter Pakistan state-sponsored terror #AfPak #waronterror

Come on Mr President - lead like a president should! :eusa_wall:

It is President Obama's job to lead Americans and to lead the free world. Not to sit back and let the newspaper editorials fill in because he won't lead! Are we supposed to take President Obama seriously as a president if he won't lead (or leads in the wrong direction)?


I can provide a better more robust Afghanistan-Pakistan policy Mr President but I can't sell it to the American people - that's your job.

The AfPak Mission on the internet is about war on terror military and security strategy for NATO and allied countries with ground forces in action in Afghanistan and air and airborne forces including drones and special force raids in action over Pakistan.

The AfPak Mission helps implementation of the Bush Doctrine versus state sponsors of terror and is inspired by the leadership of Condoleezza Rice.

The AfPak Mission approach to the Taliban is uncompromising.
There should be no peace with the Taliban.
The only "good" Taliban is a dead Taliban.
Arrest all Taliban political leaders and media spokesmen.
Capture or kill all Taliban fighters.

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Have you heard the joke about Obama's visit to Pakistan?

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President Barack Obama makes a state visit to Pakistan.

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Michelle and the 2 Obama children, accompany the president.

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The Obama family are guests of the Pakistani military

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- but - sadly - a military dog

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savages Sasha to death.

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- before the US Secret Service can shoot the dog dead.

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Obama, tears in his eyes,

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says to the ISI general, whose dog it was.


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"I'm so sorry. Can I buy you a new dog?".

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Pakistan is not-
Oh yes Pakistani is!

it's all the jihadists who hide out there...

The Pakistani military intelligence service provide the jihadists with hiding places, weapons, supplies - everything. They even provided that hiding place for Osama Bin Laden where he was killed - in a safe house close to the Pakistani military academy.

But then you'd know all that if you had bothered to watch the videos I posted.

How Pakistan secretly sponsors Al Qaeda & the Taliban

The BBC's Secret Pakistan videos.

Secret Pakistan : Documentary by BBC Part 1 (Double Cross) - YouTube






Refusing to learn the truth, huh? Living in denial, huh?

Don't bother denying it again. You'd be wasting your time. :eusa_hand:

Away and bury your head in sand like the ostrich again!

Away and look at the truth with your blind eye again!

After all, what could go wrong with letting Pakistan think it has got away with 9/11?

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An American city or metro nuked by Pakistan's terrorists for nuclear blackmail

If we withdraw our forces from Afghanistan, Pakistan will have got off with 9/11, think it has made a fool of the US, will see the US's retreat from Afghanistan as Pakistan's victory and a green light for Pakistan to go on the offensive, perhaps giving (claiming "theft") one of Pakistan's nuclear weapons to Al-Qaeda to use the nuke to blow up an American city or metro killing far more people than were killed in 9/11.

Then Pakistan will demand maybe $100 billion a year from the US to "help to secure" its nuclear weapons.

We are fools if we think this war is over just because we bring our troops home from Afghanistan. It's very far from over.
 
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If the US has a problem with Pakistan ... if no-one else at the Department of Defense can help ..

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and if Chuck Hagel can find them ... maybe they can hire .. the Muppet Show!

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Introducing the Obamas' new nominee for Secretary of Defense ..

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After the successful French liberation of Mali, when they suggested - "Let the Frogs run the Afghanistan Mission, they can't be any worse than that muppet Hagel", I didn't think they meant me!

- said Kermit the Frog, speaking a Pentagon press conference where he accepted the Obamas' nomination to become the 2nd ever muppet to serve as Secretary of Defense

NATO's real A-team - the AfPak Mission

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The AfPak Mission links

Channel AfPak Mission - YouTube
Forum For Freedom Forums
Twitter http://twitter.com/AfPakMission
Flickr Flickr: AfPak Mission's Photostream
Blog AfPak Mission
 
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Bottom line?

Most of these countries would be a lot less "threatening" if we stopped messing with them.

That includes with their governments, natural resources, land and people.

The US does not own the world.

Awesome post.
 

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