And prices spiking up dramatically.
In most cases that isn't true either.
Do you people really not understand how the illegal hiring works? Most legit companies are NOT hiring undocumented aliens. They are hiring illegals with fake documentation. Again I will use Tyson Foods as an example. They won't hire you if you don't have the mandated ID. So illegals obtain fakes, but they are paid the same rate as the white people working at the company because the company does not have a reduced illegal alien pay scale.
Sure there are a few mom and pop type operations hiring known illegals and some jobs that hire day laborers , but by and large the problem is illegal workers with bogus paperwork.
ok. let's say you are correct, and MOST of the illegal aliens are working with stolen identities.
1- Do those citizens whose identities have been stolen and utilized, get the ''credit'' for the added income that shows on their SS statement from the income the illegal made and get to draw much more in SS when they go to retire because of this added income? IF not, please explain.
2- Do the illegals using stolen identities year after year FILE their income taxes each year? And IF they do, how could the IRS not ''catch'' such? same person in 2 different states filing under the same SS number type thing.... Please be specific.
3- Also, IF this is true, does it not make the ''argument'' of, ''the illegals are sucking off our system, without paying taxes'' moot?
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If you don't see a problem with illegals using your social security number and/or other items of your identity, you are short sighted. Those same people can be borrowing money, taking out loans, buying a house, racking up thousands of dollars in debt using that identity. And if they are using those numbers to apply for various kinds of government aid, it all gets charged on your account. And one day when you are applying for something in which all that is investigated VOILA! You find that you're way over extended at best or guilty of various kinds of fraud at worst; perhaps the record shows you have a communicable disease or you have DUIs on your driving record. None of which you knew about until it is too late.
If the illegal can also draw social security benefits as disability or qualify for medicare or whatever, and then when it comes your turn, you are denied because the record shows you're already benefitting.
And it is no easy matter to unscramble the fraudulent activities and can cost you thousands to clear your good name.
Not necessarily related to illegals, but all could be, here are some examples of recent cases:
Central District of California. A woman pleaded guilty to federal charges of using a stolen Social Security number to obtain thousands of dollars in credit and then filing for bankruptcy in the name of her victim. More recently, a man was indicted, pleaded guilty to federal charges and was sentenced to 27 months' imprisonment for obtaining private bank account information about an insurance company's policyholders and using that information to deposit $764,000 in counterfeit checks into a bank account he established.
Central District of California. Two of three defendants have pleaded guilty to identity theft, bank fraud, and related charges for their roles in a scheme to open bank accounts with both real and fake identification documents, deposit U.S. Treasury checks that were stolen from the mail, and withdraw funds from those accounts.
Middle District of Florida. A defendant has been indicted on bank fraud charges for obtaining names, addresses, and Social Security numbers from a Web site and using those data to apply for a series of car loans over the Internet.
Southern District of Florida. A woman was indicted and pleaded guilty to federal charges involving her obtaining a fraudulent driver's license in the name of the victim, using the license to withdraw more than $13,000 from the victim's bank account, and obtaining five department store credit cards in the victim's name and charging approximately $4,000 on those cards.
District of Kansas. A defendant pleaded guilty to conspiracy, odometer fraud, and mail fraud for operating an odometer "rollback" scheme on used cars. The defendant used false and assumed identities, including the identities of deceased persons, to obtain false identification documents and fraudulent car titles.
USDOJ: CRM: Fraud: Identity Theft and Identity Fraud
I have found illegals using as many as three or four different social security numbers, differnt aliases, different addresses, many which did not exist, and various other bogus IDs to access medical services, apply for jobs, or whatever as well as illegals who were 'sharing' a social security number.
And no, it is highly unlikely that any social security taxes paid by illegals using your SS# wind up in your account. When the name and number don't match up, the social security administration routes the money to a special holding account and spends it out of there while you assume all the risks of any trouble that person might get into. And you have to factor in lower wages when honest employers have to compete with those who hire illegals at substandard wages, the higher costs of insurance because most illegals don't buy insurance, and higher taxes to fund services utilized by illegal families.
Depending on whose source you look at, illegals either pay more into the economy than they cost the economy--the position of the pro amnesty group--or each illegal immigrant family costs the American taxpayer $15k to $21K above and beyond any contributions they make--the position of the anti-amnesty group.
And all of this, though I have huge compassion for people who just want to take care of their families, all of this illustrates in spades that we must be able to control our borders and regulate who will be allowed to be here. The USA, as rich as it is, cannot take in all the world's poor and hope to remain strong enough to be able to help anybody.
