Obama was arming his Jihadi brothers through Benghazi

[Slice The Great]

If anyone seriously believes President Obama was arming our enemies through Benghazi, and has credible evidence to support the belief, I would appreciate it if you would post some links to the evidence. I have heard people make the claim, but I've never taken it seriously. However, I am open minded and would like to drill down on the claim to see if it's true. Thanks.

 

[MarathonMike]

I don't know. But given his willingness to arm the Mexican drug cartel it is plausible.

 

[Marion Morrison]

This is quite well-documented and has citations:


One could draw that conclusion from this.

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As the CCB revealed in its first interim report,
21
Qaddafi’s regime reached out just days later to
retired Admiral Chuck Kubic in order to broker a
possible abdication under a
white flag of truce
w
ith AFRICOM. Although Qaddafi
officials
successfully made contact with
AFRICOM officers
under the command of
General Carter Ham, who conveyed the possibility of a truce up the chain
of command to Washington, the
administration
chose to
nix
these efforts. We have now learned
that Qadda
fi also wanted to make a
deal with the British
.
22
Despite Qaddafi’s multiple attempts
at a truce
to discuss his possible
abdication
and
exile,
however,
the
U.S.
and its partners
were
determined to intervene
militarily in Libya’s civil war on the side of
al
-
Qa’eda
—
a
catastrophic
mistake that ultimately transformed Libya into an Islamic jihadist safe haven.
Running Guns to al
-
Qa’eda
Sometime during M
arch 2011,
President
Obama signed a
P
residential
Intelligence Fi
nding
that
authorized
U.S. support to the
Libyan
rebels
. “It's fair to say that if we wanted to get weapons
into Libya, we probably could. We're looking at all our options at this point,
”
President Obama
told
ABC News
at the time.
23
Yet
,
at
the same time, one advisor was counseling Secretary
Clint
on against arming the rebels
:
“
...
B
/
c
[sic]
sending more
arms into a society generally
—
particularly when they are as disorgan
ized and fragmented as they are
—
will result in more
violence
—
against each other,”
Anne
-
Marie Slaughter, the State Department’s directo
r of policy
planning, told Secretary Clinton.
24
Nevertheless, intervention carried the day, and so, Operation
Zero Footprint was launched. It was run under the military command authority of NATO, not the
U.S. military,"

15
As its name suggests, the objective of Operation Zero Footprint was to facilitate the c
overt
transfer of weapons to the Libyan rebels without calling attention to the key coordinating role of
the U.S. and specifically the Hillary Clinton State Department"

"Libyan rebels"=ISIS


https://aim.org/wp-content/uploads/...ission-on-Benghazi-FINAL-REPORT-June-2016.pdf

 

[Slice The Great]

Kris Paronto, John Tiegen and Mark Geist, the "Liars of Benghazi", made up the story that the CIA Chief of Base in Benghazi issued an order standing down the CIA rescue mission to the diplomatic mission in Benghazi that was under attack.

They saw an oportunity to make money off the Hillary and Obama haters. They took the Chief's order to shut up, shaped it into a "stand down" order and used it to sell a book and movie and earn speaking fees telling their story.

The genesis of the stand down order story is an incident that took place on the porch of the CIA Annex as CiA officers were preparing a plan for the CIA rescue team and requesting assistance from Feburary 17 Martyrs Brigade.

John Tiegen claims the Chief of Base, the Deputy Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader were on the porch talking on their phones. Tiegen approched his superior officers, and offered tactical advice.

Tiegen claims the Chief told him, "stand down, you need to wait. You need to make a plan." Tiegen claims this was a stand down order.

The Chief denies he used the words, "stand down." He denies he issued an stand down order.

The Deputy Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader say they did not hear the Chief say, "stand down", or issue a stand down order.

That's it! Tiegen claims he heard a stand down order tbat the other three eye witnesses never heard.

My conclusion. Tiegen made it all up.

That's my view.

Am I wrong?

 

[Marion Morrison]

Kris Paronto, John Tiegen and Mark Geist, the "Liars of Benghazi", made up the story that the CIA Chief of Base in Benghazi issued an order standing down the CIA rescue mission to the diplomatic mission in Benghazi that was under attack.

They saw an oportunity to make money off the Hillary and Obama haters. They took the Chief's order to shut up, shaped it into a "stand down" order and used it to sell a book and movie and earn speaking fees telling their story.

The genesis of the stand down order story is an incident that took place on the porch of the CIA Annex as CiA officers were preparing a plan for the CIA rescue team and requesting assistance from Feburary 17 Martyrs Brigade.

John Tiegen claims the Chief of Base, the Deputy Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader were on the porch talking on their phones. Tiegen approched his superior officers, and offered tactical advice.

Tiegen claims the Chief told him, "stand down, you need to wait. You need to make a plan." Tiegen claims this was a stand down order.

The Chief denies he used the words, "stand down." He denies he issued an stand down order.

The Deputy Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader say they did not hear the Chief say, "stand down", or issue a stand down order.

That's it! Tiegen claims he heard a stand down order tbat the other three eye witnesses never heard.

My conclusion. Tiegen made it all up.

That's my view.

Am I wrong?

Not sure, but you're off of your own OP topic.

 

[MarathonMike]

Your conclusion is speculation. What is important is that manpower we had didn't show up to fight. That is inexcusable and innocent Americans died horrible deaths because of it. Yeah I know. It was only four and you didn't know them so 'Meh'.

 

[caddo kid]

Kris Paronto, John Tiegen and Mark Geist, the "Liars of Benghazi", made up the story that the CIA Chief of Base in Benghazi issued an order standing down the CIA rescue mission to the diplomatic mission in Benghazi that was under attack.

They saw an oportunity to make money off the Hillary and Obama haters. They took the Chief's order to shut up, shaped it into a "stand down" order and used it to sell a book and movie and earn speaking fees telling their story.

The genesis of the stand down order story is an incident that took place on the porch of the CIA Annex as CiA officers were preparing a plan for the CIA rescue team and requesting assistance from Feburary 17 Martyrs Brigade.

John Tiegen claims the Chief of Base, the Deputy Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader were on the porch talking on their phones. Tiegen approched his superior officers, and offered tactical advice.

Tiegen claims the Chief told him, "stand down, you need to wait. You need to make a plan." Tiegen claims this was a stand down order.

The Chief denies he used the words, "stand down." He denies he issued an stand down order.

The Deputy Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader say they did not hear the Chief say, "stand down", or issue a stand down order.

That's it! Tiegen claims he heard a stand down order tbat the other three eye witnesses never heard.

My conclusion. Tiegen made it all up.

That's my view.

Am I wrong?

Not sure, but you're off of your own OP topic.

the dude started the thread; are you a f***ing mod now? F***; I hope not. LOL


BESIDES:

how many Republican lead investigations into 'Benghazi' have there been already; six, seven, eight?

I f***ing lost count.

How many indictments so far? ZERO

F***ing next, please.

 

[caddo kid]

Your conclusion is speculation. What is important is that manpower we had didn't show up to fight. That is inexcusable and innocent Americans died horrible deaths because of it. Yeah I know. It was only four and you didn't know them so 'Meh'.

how many Republican lead investigations into 'Benghazi' have there been already; six, seven, eight?

I f***ing lost count.

How many indictments so far? ZERO

F***ing next, please.

You & all of your KIND sit here & everywhere else, belly ache about this shit for years, AFTER more investigations than f***ing Carter has pills, and you are ALL STILL bitching.

What did you assholes do when 9/11 happened? NOT A F***ing thing.
3000 people were killed, YET you & your KIND don't say shit about G. W. Bush & 9/11.
Bush, the GOP, and you assholes OWN 9/11.

STFU already about your f***ing Bengazhi s***

 

[Dale Smith]

Your conclusion is speculation. What is important is that manpower we had didn't show up to fight. That is inexcusable and innocent Americans died horrible deaths because of it. Yeah I know. It was only four and you didn't know them so 'Meh'.

ISIS/al qaeda is and has always been a CIA mercenary army going back to the days when they were the mujahideen. Reference Zbigniew Brzezinski. Saudi Intel, Mossad, MI5/MI6 all played their part using Qatar and Turkey as a conduit to funnel weapons to the anti-Assad faction. Google military whistleblower Scott Bennett that found the funding for "ISIS" and the 11,000 plus bank accounts in Swiss banks that were funneling financial aid. Neither Holder, the Hildebeast, the Barrypuppet, the IRS or any of the major news stations (including Fox) would touch his findings with a ten foot pole. There was also the "propaganda beheading" films that were paid for with taxpayer money. Benghazi was all about making sure that surface to air missiles ended up in the hands of these CIA mercenaries to be used against Assad. USA.INC and the globalists were simply following the PNAC plan of the neocons. BTW, I watched the Benghazi hearings and YES, without a doubt, "STAND-DOWN" orders were given.

BTW, where did that 300 plus tons of gold end up after Gaddafi was taken out by the CIA coup? It seems to have vanished like a fart in the wind and a central bank was put in it's place.....imagine that? Why was it that Russia did more damage to "ISIS" in two weeks than the Barrypuppet's (snicker) leadership wasn't able to do in two years?

 

[Slice The Great]

Your conclusion is speculation. What is important is that manpower we had didn't show up to fight. That is inexcusable and innocent Americans died horrible deaths because of it. Yeah I know. It was only four and you didn't know them so 'Meh'.

What "manpower" are you referring to, that didn't show up? Thanks.

 

[Slice The Great]

Your conclusion is speculation. What is important is that manpower we had didn't show up to fight. That is inexcusable and innocent Americans died horrible deaths because of it. Yeah I know. It was only four and you didn't know them so 'Meh'.

ISIS/al qaeda is and has always been a CIA mercenary army going back to the days when they were the mujahideen. Reference Zbigniew Brzezinski. Saudi Intel, Mossad, MI5/MI6 all played their part using Qatar and Turkey as a conduit to funnel weapons to the anti-Assad faction. Google military whistleblower Scott Bennett that found the funding for "ISIS" and the 11,000 plus bank accounts in Swiss banks that were funneling financial aid. Neither Holder, the Hildebeast, the Barrypuppet, the IRS or any of the major news stations (including Fox) would touch his findings with a ten foot pole. There was also the "propaganda beheading" films that were paid for with taxpayer money. Benghazi was all about making sure that surface to air missiles ended up in the hands of these CIA mercenaries to be used against Assad. USA.INC and the globalists were simply following the PNAC plan of the neocons. BTW, I watched the Benghazi hearings and YES, without a doubt, "STAND-DOWN" orders were given.

BTW, where did that 300 plus tons of gold end up after Gaddafi was taken out by the CIA coup? It seems to have vanished like a fart in the wind and a central bank was put in it's place.....imagine that? Why was it that Russia did more damage to "ISIS" in two weeks than the Barrypuppet's (snicker) leadership wasn't able to do in two years?

Do you have any evidence that SIS/al qaeda is and has always been a CIA mercenary army? Thanks.

 

[Dale Smith]

Your conclusion is speculation. What is important is that manpower we had didn't show up to fight. That is inexcusable and innocent Americans died horrible deaths because of it. Yeah I know. It was only four and you didn't know them so 'Meh'.

ISIS/al qaeda is and has always been a CIA mercenary army going back to the days when they were the mujahideen. Reference Zbigniew Brzezinski. Saudi Intel, Mossad, MI5/MI6 all played their part using Qatar and Turkey as a conduit to funnel weapons to the anti-Assad faction. Google military whistleblower Scott Bennett that found the funding for "ISIS" and the 11,000 plus bank accounts in Swiss banks that were funneling financial aid. Neither Holder, the Hildebeast, the Barrypuppet, the IRS or any of the major news stations (including Fox) would touch his findings with a ten foot pole. There was also the "propaganda beheading" films that were paid for with taxpayer money. Benghazi was all about making sure that surface to air missiles ended up in the hands of these CIA mercenaries to be used against Assad. USA.INC and the globalists were simply following the PNAC plan of the neocons. BTW, I watched the Benghazi hearings and YES, without a doubt, "STAND-DOWN" orders were given.

BTW, where did that 300 plus tons of gold end up after Gaddafi was taken out by the CIA coup? It seems to have vanished like a fart in the wind and a central bank was put in it's place.....imagine that? Why was it that Russia did more damage to "ISIS" in two weeks than the Barrypuppet's (snicker) leadership wasn't able to do in two years?

Do you have any evidence that SIS/al qaeda is and has always been a CIA mercenary army? Thanks.

I gave you enough breadcrumbs..........do your own due diligence. I did mine and what I found made me sick to my stomach. It disgusted me enough to turn on the neocons and their enablers that make up the fabian socialist party that is the DNC.

 

[Hossfly]

Your conclusion is speculation. What is important is that manpower we had didn't show up to fight. That is inexcusable and innocent Americans died horrible deaths because of it. Yeah I know. It was only four and you didn't know them so 'Meh'.

What "manpower" are you referring to, that didn't show up? Thanks.

Pilots on strip alert less than an hour away. Troops who were alerted in Italy, less than 2 hours away. They were ordered to stand down. That's been verified.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

If anyone seriously believes President Obama was arming our enemies through Benghazi, and has credible evidence to support the belief, I would appreciate it if you would post some links to the evidence. I have heard people make the claim, but I've never taken it seriously. However, I am open minded and would like to drill down on the claim to see if it's true. Thanks.

I will post the emails one more time and then forget it.

If anyone seriously believes President Obama was arming our enemies through Benghazi, and has credible evidence to support the belief, I would appreciate it if you would post some links to the evidence. I have heard people make the claim, but I've never taken it seriously. However, I am open minded and would like to drill down on the claim to see if it's true. Thanks.

As some know I have been reading the Clinton Emails, and I found evidence of her Arming the so call Syrian Army, this is not a National Army but the Rebels who we are fighting now. Here it is in a cortical for
In an Aug. 17, 2014, email released by WikiLeaks, Clinton, after her service as secretary of state, suggested to adviser John Podesta: “At the same time, we should return to plans to provide the FSA [Free Syrian Army], with some group of moderate forces, with equipment that will allow them to deal with a weakened ISIL, and stepped up operations against the Syrian regime.”

Andrew C. McCarthy, a senior policy fellow at the National Review Institute, tied the statement to the Obama administration’s plan to equip Syrian fighters, either the Free Syrian Army or “other moderate forces,” to a U.S.-led operation in coordination with Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey to steer weapons to Syria, “ostensibly to fight both Assad and ISIS.”

McCarthy noted, however, that Clinton’s 2014 memo to Podesta asserted the Saudi and Qatari governments both supported ISIS and other “radical Sunni groups.”

In September 2013, WND reported Secretary of State John Kerry and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., had relied on the work of Elizabeth O’Bagy, a 26-year-old graduate student, to argue in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that the Obama administration should send weapons to arm the “moderate” Free Syrian Army to oppose the Assad government in Syria.

In that article, WND detailed the extensive lobbying efforts conducted in Washington to advance the FSA as a “moderate group,” despite clear evidence the al-Nusra Front – operating under the FSA umbrella – had been declared a terrorist organization by the State Department; had pledged allegiance to al-Qaida’s top leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri; and was the group of choice for foreign jihadi fighters pouring into Syria.

 

[Slice The Great]

Your conclusion is speculation. What is important is that manpower we had didn't show up to fight. That is inexcusable and innocent Americans died horrible deaths because of it. Yeah I know. It was only four and you didn't know them so 'Meh'.

What "manpower" are you referring to, that didn't show up? Thanks.

Pilots on strip alert less than an hour away. Troops who were alerted in Italy, less than 2 hours away. They were ordered to stand down. That's been verified.

The CIA Commander in Benghazi never request troops or air support.

 

[Slice The Great]

Your conclusion is speculation. What is important is that manpower we had didn't show up to fight. That is inexcusable and innocent Americans died horrible deaths because of it. Yeah I know. It was only four and you didn't know them so 'Meh'.

What "manpower" are you referring to, that didn't show up? Thanks.

Pilots on strip alert less than an hour away. Troops who were alerted in Italy, less than 2 hours away. They were ordered to stand down. That's been verified.

The nearest available F-16 was in djibouti, a thousand miles from Benghazi, according to officer who testified to Congress. .

 

[Slice The Great]

Your conclusion is speculation. What is important is that manpower we had didn't show up to fight. That is inexcusable and innocent Americans died horrible deaths because of it. Yeah I know. It was only four and you didn't know them so 'Meh'.

What "manpower" are you referring to, that didn't show up? Thanks.

Pilots on strip alert less than an hour away. Troops who were alerted in Italy, less than 2 hours away. They were ordered to stand down. That's been verified.

Are you referring to the special forces unit stationed at Sigonella that was part of Operation Jukebox Lotus?

 

[Slice The Great]

If anyone seriously believes President Obama was arming our enemies through Benghazi, and has credible evidence to support the belief, I would appreciate it if you would post some links to the evidence. I have heard people make the claim, but I've never taken it seriously. However, I am open minded and would like to drill down on the claim to see if it's true. Thanks.

I will post the emails one more time and then forget it.

If anyone seriously believes President Obama was arming our enemies through Benghazi, and has credible evidence to support the belief, I would appreciate it if you would post some links to the evidence. I have heard people make the claim, but I've never taken it seriously. However, I am open minded and would like to drill down on the claim to see if it's true. Thanks.

As some know I have been reading the Clinton Emails, and I found evidence of her Arming the so call Syrian Army, this is not a National Army but the Rebels who we are fighting now. Here it is in a cortical for
In an Aug. 17, 2014, email released by WikiLeaks, Clinton, after her service as secretary of state, suggested to adviser John Podesta: “At the same time, we should return to plans to provide the FSA [Free Syrian Army], with some group of moderate forces, with equipment that will allow them to deal with a weakened ISIL, and stepped up operations against the Syrian regime.”

Andrew C. McCarthy, a senior policy fellow at the National Review Institute, tied the statement to the Obama administration’s plan to equip Syrian fighters, either the Free Syrian Army or “other moderate forces,” to a U.S.-led operation in coordination with Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey to steer weapons to Syria, “ostensibly to fight both Assad and ISIS.”

McCarthy noted, however, that Clinton’s 2014 memo to Podesta asserted the Saudi and Qatari governments both supported ISIS and other “radical Sunni groups.”

In September 2013, WND reported Secretary of State John Kerry and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., had relied on the work of Elizabeth O’Bagy, a 26-year-old graduate student, to argue in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that the Obama administration should send weapons to arm the “moderate” Free Syrian Army to oppose the Assad government in Syria.

In that article, WND detailed the extensive lobbying efforts conducted in Washington to advance the FSA as a “moderate group,” despite clear evidence the al-Nusra Front – operating under the FSA umbrella – had been declared a terrorist organization by the State Department; had pledged allegiance to al-Qaida’s top leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri; and was the group of choice for foreign jihadi fighters pouring into Syria.

Are you claiming that by arming a force fighting against ISIL, we would be arming our enemy? I don't understand.

 

[Hossfly]

Your conclusion is speculation. What is important is that manpower we had didn't show up to fight. That is inexcusable and innocent Americans died horrible deaths because of it. Yeah I know. It was only four and you didn't know them so 'Meh'.

What "manpower" are you referring to, that didn't show up? Thanks.

Pilots on strip alert less than an hour away. Troops who were alerted in Italy, less than 2 hours away. They were ordered to stand down. That's been verified.

The nearest available F-16 was in djibouti, a thousand miles from Benghazi, according to officer who testified to Congress. .

The top speed listed for the F-16 is Mach 2+ (in excess of 1500 mph).

 

[BlackFlag]

If anyone seriously believes President Obama was arming our enemies through Benghazi, and has credible evidence to support the belief, I would appreciate it if you would post some links to the evidence. I have heard people make the claim, but I've never taken it seriously. However, I am open minded and would like to drill down on the claim to see if it's true. Thanks.

Note the absolute silence on Benghazi ever since the election. What a scam the GOP pulled on the nation.