Obama wants to know how the country became so divided

[Foxfyre]

Not totally wrong.

Before Mr. Newt - Republicans did whatever the Democrats wanted them to do.

For sure Newt and his GOP reformers gave us some great government.

Clinton's first two years with a Democrat controlled Congress were really disastrous. The economy was still sluggish after the GHWB recession and he did nothing to correct that. He put Hillary in charge of overhauling healthcare and her plan was so bad even the Democrats wouldn't vote for it, but we still had a more or less competent media then who reported it. And it scared the peewaddin' out of American citizens.

So in 1994 they voted in a strong GOP controlled Senate AND House for the first time in a very long time and most of the new Republicans were reformer minded Republicans. They and some thirty odd reformer minded Democrats headed by Congressman Tim Penny in the House kept pushing tax and welfare reform. The Senate also agreed to it with almost no amendments. Clinton kept vetoing it but they came back with it again and again until Clinton figured it was politically expedient to say okay and signed it. That's when the economy really took off and we obtained the closest thing to a balanced budget any of us had ever seen. Despite the sex scandals and impeachment and several missteps on the international scene, it saved Clinton's presidency and legacy.

But unfortunately almost all those reformers term limited themselves out and the old guard returned to Congress during the GWB presidency. His Presidency veered sharply left to his detriment and his missteps with Iraq and Afghanistan didn't help his legacy. Despite impressive handling of 9/11 and a shortened recession it triggered due to a pretty good economy, at best his presidency would be rated mediocre and mostly weak overall. The Democrats regained control of Congress to the point Obama started out his Presidency with pretty much a super majority in both chambers of Congress.

And the media had become increasingly dominated by Marxist leftists who became more and more irresponsibly pro Democrat. They refused/failed to vet Obama so all the people got was the propaganda that, along with social media that had become a significant thing, the rhetoric was increasingly hateful and inflammatory. GWB wasn't all that great a President overall, but he didn't exacerbate or contribute to the divisiveness.

The media and Obama did.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Dems have not hit bottom yet

They are grooming children for a new low

The moment they went after children they hit bottom.

 

[Mac-7]

The moment they went after children they hit bottom.

Going after is not the same as getting there

We aint seen nuthin’ yet

 

[Mac1958]

Clinton was wrong.

It's more than half.

Yeah. Much more.

 

[Mac-7]

For sure Newt and his GOP reformers gave us some great government.

Clinton's first two years with a Democrat controlled Congress were really disastrous. The economy was still sluggish after the GHWB recession and he did nothing to correct that. He put Hillary in charge of overhauling healthcare and her plan was so bad even the Democrats wouldn't vote for it, but we still had a more or less competent media then who reported it. And it scared the peewaddin' out of American citizens.

So in 1994 they voted in a strong GOP controlled Senate AND House for the first time in a very long time and most of the new Republicans were reformer minded Republicans. They and some thirty odd reformer minded Democrats headed by Congressman Tim Penny in the House kept pushing tax and welfare reform. The Senate also agreed to it with almost no amendments. Clinton kept vetoing it but they came back with it again and again until Clinton figured it was politically expedient to say okay and signed it. That's when the economy really took off and we obtained the closest thing to a balanced budget any of us had ever seen. Despite the sex scandals and impeachment and several missteps on the international scene, it saved Clinton's presidency and legacy.

But unfortunately almost all those reformers term limited themselves out and the old guard returned to Congress during the GWB presidency. His Presidency veered sharply left to his detriment and his missteps with Iraq and Afghanistan didn't help his legacy. Despite impressive handling of 9/11 and a shortened recession it triggered due to a pretty good economy, at best his presidency would be rated mediocre and mostly weak overall.

And the media had become increasingly dominated by Marxist leftists who became more and more irresponsibly pro Democrat. Social media had also become a significant thing and was playing a much large part in the national conversation. And the national conversation had become ever more ugly and hateful. GWB wasn't all that great a President overall, but he didn't exacerbate or contribute to the divisiveness.

Obama did.

The useful shelf life of a conservative in washington is about 8 years

After that they start growing big ears and a tail

 

[Billiejeens]

Go fuck yourself.

Was Hillary Clinton the Original 'Birther'? - FactCheck.org

Two Republican presidential candidates claim the so-called "birther" movement originated with the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2008. Some of her ardent supporters pushed the theory, but there is no evidence Clinton or her campaign had anything to do with it.

www.factcheck.org

It is actually true.

You can't fuck the truth away.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Going after is not the same as getting there

We aint seen nuthin’ yet

I've seen enough

 

[Mac-7]

I've seen enough

More than enough

 

[Foxfyre]

The useful shelf life of s conservative in washington is about 8 years

After that they start growing big ears and a tail

That is what happens when we elect those who are or who become professional politicians instead of public servants.

 

[Mac-7]

That is what happens when we elect those who are or who become professional politicians instead of public servants.

The health of our republic is not good

 

[Darkwind]

You mean maga finally figured out Trump lied about Obama's citzenship? Congratualtions on turning from insanity.

That isn't the topic of discussion.

You mean maga finally figured out Trump lied about Obama's citzenship? Congratualtions on turning from insanity.

No, I mean that the world is waking up to the lies being told, on the hourly, by the left.

 

[Darkwind]

That is what happens when we elect those who are or who become professional politicians instead of public servants.

It's also a prime example of the divisiveness of the left.

You'll note that they never speak that way about their side.

 

[Darkwind]

First, Rasmussen is a hack polling organization.

Second, race relations worsened because of birther assholes like Trump who fanned the flames.

First, all polling is done by hack organizations who are bent on manipulating public opinion. Rasmussen is no worse than every other one out there.

Race relations worsened because of the racist attitude of Barak Obama and his furthering of racial stereotypes.

It has been the Democrats and the left, since the mid 1990s, that has sewn division and hatred.

 

[initforme]

I simply won't cast a vote for either side. I don't trust them.

 

[Foxfyre]

First, Rasmussen is a hack polling organization.

Second, race relations worsened because of birther assholes like Trump who fanned the flames.

Rasmussen is an honorable polling organization. They have consistently given Biden some of his highest approval ratings because they are careful to poll only registered and likely voters and poll demographics according to the total number of registrations.

They also gave Obama some of his highest approval ratings and Trump some of his lowest. So if their polls are uncomfortable for you to see, it hardly makes them a hack polling organization.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I almost lost it when I saw this clip. Really? Obama wants to know how we became so divided?

The same Obama and Hillary who characterized the people as a basket of deplorables? Who described small town America as bitter, clinging to gun and religion with antipathy against immigrants and people who aren't like them? Who said: "If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, 'We're gonna punish our enemies, and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us . . .' Who said "We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

The same Obama who called all opponents of same-sex marriage 'bigots.' Who called the pro life movement "a war on women." Who called all who wanted a secure border 'racist'. Who called the GOP 'the enemy of Hispanics.'

By the end of 2016 and after eight years of America having its first 'black President", ". . .Race relations have deteriorated to an unenviable place. In a July 2016 poll, nearly 70 percent of Americans agreed that race relations are generally bad – a level unseen since the 1992 Rodney King riots. . ." Barack Obama: The Great Divider

How did we become so divided Obama asks? He (and a number of others) only need to look in the mirror for the answer.

Every POTUS since Clinton has actively worked to divide the country, each one doing more to make it happen than their predecessor.

This trend will continue no matter who win next month.

 

[Foxfyre]

Every POTUS since Clinton has actively worked to divide the country, each one doing more to make it happen than their predecessor.

This trend will continue no matter who win next month.

You will have a very difficult time making your case for your comment with GWB. Or Trump for that matter. Try actually researching the situations and who instigated what. You'll find the divisiveness comes from those attacking and hating whoever is the Republican because they are Republicans. Not because of policy or their rhetoric or anything that isn't just mindless or manufactured criticism.

I do not criticize Obama because he was/is a Democrat. I criticize him for specific statements he has made and specific policy he initiated and the weaponization of his administration against political opponents. Same with Biden/Harris.

 

[westwall]

Go fuck yourself.

Was Hillary Clinton the Original 'Birther'? - FactCheck.org

Two Republican presidential candidates claim the so-called "birther" movement originated with the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2008. Some of her ardent supporters pushed the theory, but there is no evidence Clinton or her campaign had anything to do with it.

www.factcheck.org

 

[Foxfyre]

The health of our republic is not good

That's a fact. That is why I hope and pray for a Trump victory and that we do get that red wave in Congress.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You will have a very difficult time making your case for your comment with GWB.

Really? The man of "you are either with us or against us" ?

Or Trump for that matter.

Now that is funny as shit. His entire campaign from 2015 till now is one of division. His entire theme is us vs them. it is all he ever does.

Try actually researching the situations and who instigated what.

How does it feel to go through life devoid of any sense of irony?