Obama to ban Christmas Cards on Military Bases

[Campbell]

If this is true....this will put a fork in the left's claims that Obama isn't a closet Muslim.

Obama may not be a good Muslim......but he thinks like one.

republicans are losing votes in the polling across the United states .... what a better way to raise anger towards liberals/dems among voters ... make up a lie... you guys say a lot about us dem/liberals, do you honestly think that we would be that stupid ???? do you honestly think any president would be that stupid ??? really??? like benghazi hearings, if they continue down this path to push this pack of lies from the right, this too could blow up into thepublicans faces

you just completely lied to yourself and it's freakin funnty1
1
seriously what a damn idiot

actually republicans did well in the elections just the other day

and carson is beating hillary in head to head polls

go cry

Pucker up and practice, "Madame President"......the election is a year away.

off topic

you too, when did you wear a uniform on a tour in a muslim country?????

I'm 81 years old.....pulled my military service in company C, 5th btn. 109th armored division in the late 50's early 60's. I was a tank commander on an M-48 medium Patton tank when I was discharged.

 

[bedowin62]

The order appeared in a statement on a U.S. Central Command website, but has since disappeared.
The site reportedly said that soldiers are expected to “be familiar with host-nation customs and courtesies to help facilitate a long-lasting mutual respect with local communities.”

It also stated that “U.S. military members serving in countries that observe Ramadan are required to adhere to certain practices while outside U.S. installations.”
“Ramadan is a countrywide religious celebration,” Capt. Dan Sickles, host nation officer in-charge claimed. “Members should not make light of local customs and should also expect that during daylight hours host nation customer service will be abbreviated and less accommodating.”

 

[NYcarbineer]

It gets much worse

Obama has revoked Santa's security clearance and he will not be allowed on military bases

ironically i'd almost bet a santa display is banned on military bases

hilarious when you goofballs try to make jokes and there's more truth to them than think!!

well its obvious now you've never been in the service

you're a crybaby and a loser; and every body knows it. you proved that the last time i kicked your ass on these boards; serial-posting "responses' long after i was gone

try to keep up with the times; what was possible and allowed even not that long ago is different now under this politically-correct douchebag Administration

its amazing how this fool thinks he kicked ass ... all of his sources, right wing nut job site... or some law that didn't apply to the offese ... that's all you ever do ... you never beat me ever ...you just thought you did ... again all your sources said. "could be" "might have" "we believe" those aren't factual statements ... they are accusations .... even today your post said "urged" I pointed it out to you thats not a order ... but still your stupidity out shined us all ... now you're trying to claim you won ??? your right??? thats hysterical at best

i beat you daily you dullard; deep inside you know it too



now when ARE YOU going to get around to disproving the fact displays of Christianity are curtailed on US bases overseas???

i'm speaking to a female SFC right now who recently returned from Afghanistan; she was virtually all over the country. There are some FOBs that do what they please, and others where the commanders, either US or European, are more politically-correct and it is YES ORDERED not to make religious displays of Christianity.


libs are losers who lie to themselves

If that is true, I'm sure there was absolutely zero tactical reasoning. Like, for example, not wanting to make an inflaming target out of the base. Those crazy military commanders. They're always thinking about the safety of the troops under their command.

who called the commanders crazy??

did i address the wisdom of it at all??? i said it's being done; and it is.

it's the Left that cant handle the truth here einstein

The charge is that Christmas cards have been banned. You might want to start by agreeing or disagreeing with you nutty pals.

their display is what is restricted you dullard

Answering only yes or no

Has Obama banned the military from receiving Christmas cards?

 

[bodecea]

It gets much worse

Obama has revoked Santa's security clearance and he will not be allowed on military bases

ironically i'd almost bet a santa display is banned on military bases

hilarious when you goofballs try to make jokes and there's more truth to them than think!!

well its obvious now you've never been in the service

you're a crybaby and a loser; and every body knows it. you proved that the last time i kicked your ass on these boards; serial-posting "responses' long after i was gone

try to keep up with the times; what was possible and allowed even not that long ago is different now under this politically-correct douchebag Administration

So...your military service was when?

 

[mdk]

I see this thread made it home. lol

 

[bodecea]

i'm speaking to a female SFC right now who recently returned from Afghanistan; she was virtually all over the country. There are some FOBs that do what they please, and others where the commanders, either US or European, are more politically-correct and it is YES ORDERED not to make religious displays of Christianity.


libs are losers who lie to themselves

Sure.......I love anecdotes.....and from a "female SFC" no less.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The best part of this thread is how the RW'ers chiming in are thoroughly incapable of grasping how preposterous this story is.

The truth is, the only problem the administration had with Christmas card was the insistence by conservatives that they be delivered to the military bases by Jesus riding a dinosaur.

except that making accomodations for the host country has been going on a long time

you're a loser and a dinosaur; you only THINK you're a "forward-looking' type. in reality you dont even know what's going on

Answering only yes or no

Has the banning of Christmas cards occurred or not?

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! answer yes or no!1
typical coward; cant handle facts, has to try to frame every debate or falls apart

So it's cowardly to ask for a yes or no answer?

You're calling this guy a coward?

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lol, too easy

 

[Campbell]

oh shit. they cannot display their christmas card on the local market of kandahar. what a shame, that is, after all, the designed purpose of a christmas card.

What the hell do you think this country is doing....running a goddamned Christian army? Next thing you know we'll be hanging around in middle eastern countries for one purpose.....OIL! OH....'scuse me, that's why we're there. That's why we've been there since the 1930's. It's not the only place we've gone to uninvited....we have troops in 170 countries and the last time anybody surrendered to us was August, 1945.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The order appeared in a statement on a U.S. Central Command website, but has since disappeared.

Maybe it ran off with your credibility.

 

[bodecea]

Let's send Christmas cards and see if they are returned...

An excellent idea.....not only does it address the thread, but it is for an excellent cause too. Bravo to you, sir!

 

[SwimExpert]

who called the commanders crazy??

did i address the wisdom of it at all??? i said it's being done; and it is.

it's the Left that cant handle the truth here einstein

Make up your mind. It's either an isidious plot by the administration to persecute Christians, or it's a tactical decision made by military commanders. You cannot have it both ways.

 

[hazlnut]

Obama’s military command will prevent delivery of Christmas cards being sent from families to their servicemen loved ones overseas spokesmen for The Pentagon said today. The White House claims that traditional Christmas greetings wish will upset Muslims in host countries and will have to convicted and returned to the sender.

Per executive order,all overseas military mail will be monitored for references to Christmas, Jesus Christ, or pork products which are known to offend Muslims.

An Army Veteran who reached out to Fox News said Pentagon leadership is “hypersensitive to anyone who says they feel like their rights are being violated.”

“It’s extremely frustrating,” the soldier said. “The U.S. Military is living in fear of radical Muslims.”
The soldier, who asked not to be identified because he feared being disciplined or assaulted my Muslims, said many people are furious over the censorship
.
“If soldiers cannot speak the name of God, let alone Christ, what are we fighting for?” he asked. “I’ve towed the company line for years but this has pushed me too far to sit quietly while personal liberties are trampled upon.”

The soldier said in recent months they have been reminded that they cannot proselytize and they cannot share their faith say anything nice about Jesus or Christianity.
“We are strongly discouraged from having any kind of Christian items on our desks or in our offices,” he said
Texas-based Liberty Institute sent a demand letter to the White House, insisting they immediately drop this policy which allows a generic greeting but disallows references to Christmas, which is officially recognized as a national holiday under federal law.

Liberty Institute’s Director of Litigation, Hyman Stratcher, responded in a statement, “Obama is once again engaging in unlawful religious discrimination. It is shameful that the military continues to censor religious speech in Christmas cards while allowing atheists,gays, and satanists to send porn,drugs,electronic cigarettes,or any other ungodly thing they want.”
Imam Al-Suq Akweer of the Islamic Friendship Coalition applauded the move as a step in the right direction in the quest for improved Islamic relations.

"Disbelievers are trying to draw Muslims away from the straight path".he said,"Christmas Day and associated celebrations are among the ''falsehoods'' for a Muslim to avoid.A Muslim is neither allowed to celebrate the Christmas Day nor is he allowed to congratulate them.Americans on Muslim soil must learn to abide by our customs to ensure peaceful relations.

The ban will go into effect December 1st.Military personnel will be given handbooks to explain what can and cannot be sent from home

Fox News The FB Page: OBAMA LAUNCHES FIRST SALVO IN WAR ON CHRISTMAS

Question: Why do Christians celebrate the Birth of Christ will so many pagan traditions - trees with lights, candles, Mistletoe,Presents?

Which brings me to my second question: Why do Christians use two pagan symbols (rabbits and eggs) to celebrate Easter a holiday that changes date according to pagan spring festival traditions?


Given that two major "Christian" holidays are basically pagan co-opted holidays why do they "go to war" over celebrating Christmas it as if they made it up or it has anything to do with the Birth of Christ?

 

[bodecea]

If this is true....this will put a fork in the left's claims that Obama isn't a closet Muslim.

Obama may not be a good Muslim......but he thinks like one.

republicans are losing votes in the polling across the United states .... what a better way to raise anger towards liberals/dems among voters ... make up a lie... you guys say a lot about us dem/liberals, do you honestly think that we would be that stupid ???? do you honestly think any president would be that stupid ??? really??? like benghazi hearings, if they continue down this path to push this pack of lies from the right, this too could blow up into thepublicans faces

you just completely lied to yourself and it's freakin funnty1
1
seriously what a damn idiot

actually republicans did well in the elections just the other day

and carson is beating hillary in head to head polls

go cry

Pucker up and practice, "Madame President"......the election is a year away.

off topic

you too, when did you wear a uniform on a tour in a muslim country?????

I'm 81 years old.....pulled my military service in company C, 5th btn. 109th armored division in the late 50's early 60's. I was a tank commander on an M-48 medium Patton tank when I was discharged.

Isn't it odd, Campbell, how Bedwetter keeps asking us about our service yet he will not answer in kind? As a fellow vet, you and I know what that means, don't we?

 

[bodecea]

The order appeared in a statement on a U.S. Central Command website, but has since disappeared.
The site reportedly said that soldiers are expected to “be familiar with host-nation customs and courtesies to help facilitate a long-lasting mutual respect with local communities.”

It also stated that “U.S. military members serving in countries that observe Ramadan are required to adhere to certain practices while outside U.S. installations.”
“Ramadan is a countrywide religious celebration,” Capt. Dan Sickles, host nation officer in-charge claimed. “Members should not make light of local customs and should also expect that during daylight hours host nation customer service will be abbreviated and less accommodating.”

Well. Isn't that CONVEEEEEEEEENIENT?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Never forget...

the Christian conservatives want this army back:

 

[SwimExpert]

Question: Why do Christians celebrate the Birth of Christ will so many pagan traditions - trees with lights, candles, Mistletoe,Presents?

Which brings me to my second question: Why do Christians use two pagan symbols (rabbits and eggs) to celebrate Easter a holiday that changes date according to pagan spring festival traditions?


Given that two major "Christian" holidays are basically pagan co-opted holidays why do they "go to war" over celebrating Christmas it as if they made it up or it has anything to do with the Birth of Christ?

This is not a thread about the merits of Christianity. There is a forum for such discussions.

 

[bodecea]

Obama’s military command will prevent delivery of Christmas cards being sent from families to their servicemen loved ones overseas spokesmen for The Pentagon said today. The White House claims that traditional Christmas greetings wish will upset Muslims in host countries and will have to convicted and returned to the sender.

Per executive order,all overseas military mail will be monitored for references to Christmas, Jesus Christ, or pork products which are known to offend Muslims.

An Army Veteran who reached out to Fox News said Pentagon leadership is “hypersensitive to anyone who says they feel like their rights are being violated.”

“It’s extremely frustrating,” the soldier said. “The U.S. Military is living in fear of radical Muslims.”
The soldier, who asked not to be identified because he feared being disciplined or assaulted my Muslims, said many people are furious over the censorship
.
“If soldiers cannot speak the name of God, let alone Christ, what are we fighting for?” he asked. “I’ve towed the company line for years but this has pushed me too far to sit quietly while personal liberties are trampled upon.”

The soldier said in recent months they have been reminded that they cannot proselytize and they cannot share their faith say anything nice about Jesus or Christianity.
“We are strongly discouraged from having any kind of Christian items on our desks or in our offices,” he said
Texas-based Liberty Institute sent a demand letter to the White House, insisting they immediately drop this policy which allows a generic greeting but disallows references to Christmas, which is officially recognized as a national holiday under federal law.

Liberty Institute’s Director of Litigation, Hyman Stratcher, responded in a statement, “Obama is once again engaging in unlawful religious discrimination. It is shameful that the military continues to censor religious speech in Christmas cards while allowing atheists,gays, and satanists to send porn,drugs,electronic cigarettes,or any other ungodly thing they want.”
Imam Al-Suq Akweer of the Islamic Friendship Coalition applauded the move as a step in the right direction in the quest for improved Islamic relations.

"Disbelievers are trying to draw Muslims away from the straight path".he said,"Christmas Day and associated celebrations are among the ''falsehoods'' for a Muslim to avoid.A Muslim is neither allowed to celebrate the Christmas Day nor is he allowed to congratulate them.Americans on Muslim soil must learn to abide by our customs to ensure peaceful relations.

The ban will go into effect December 1st.Military personnel will be given handbooks to explain what can and cannot be sent from home

Fox News The FB Page: OBAMA LAUNCHES FIRST SALVO IN WAR ON CHRISTMAS

Question: Why do Christians celebrate the Birth of Christ will so many pagan traditions - trees with lights, candles, Mistletoe,Presents?

Which brings me to my second question: Why do Christians use two pagan symbols (rabbits and eggs) to celebrate Easter a holiday that changes date according to pagan spring festival traditions?


Given that two major "Christian" holidays are basically pagan co-opted holidays why do they "go to war" over celebrating Christmas it as if they made it up or it has anything to do with the Birth of Christ?

Love the pic of Santa....I guess he really is the reason for the season after all.

 

[NYcarbineer]

republicans are losing votes in the polling across the United states .... what a better way to raise anger towards liberals/dems among voters ... make up a lie... you guys say a lot about us dem/liberals, do you honestly think that we would be that stupid ???? do you honestly think any president would be that stupid ??? really??? like benghazi hearings, if they continue down this path to push this pack of lies from the right, this too could blow up into thepublicans faces

you just completely lied to yourself and it's freakin funnty1
1
seriously what a damn idiot

actually republicans did well in the elections just the other day

and carson is beating hillary in head to head polls

go cry

Pucker up and practice, "Madame President"......the election is a year away.

off topic

you too, when did you wear a uniform on a tour in a muslim country?????

I'm 81 years old.....pulled my military service in company C, 5th btn. 109th armored division in the late 50's early 60's. I was a tank commander on an M-48 medium Patton tank when I was discharged.

Isn't it odd, Campbell, how Bedwetter keeps asking us about our service yet he will not answer in kind? As a fellow vet, you and I know what that means, don't we?

lol, I've been told more than once by RWnuts that my own service didn't count because I was drafted.

THAT is the kind of people we are dealing with.

 

[bodecea]

Never forget...

the Christian conservatives want this army back:

Speaking of never forgetting. Happy Guy Fawkes Day...when Catholics tried to blow up the House of Parliament in 1605.

 

[mudwhistle]

If this is true....this will put a fork in the left's claims that Obama isn't a closet Muslim.

Obama may not be a good Muslim......but he thinks like one.

republicans are losing votes in the polling across the United states .... what a better way to raise anger towards liberals/dems among voters ... make up a lie... you guys say a lot about us dem/liberals, do you honestly think that we would be that stupid ???? do you honestly think any president would be that stupid ??? really??? like benghazi hearings, if they continue down this path to push this pack of lies from the right, this too could blow up into thepublicans faces

you just completely lied to yourself and it's freakin funnty1
1
seriously what a damn idiot

actually republicans did well in the elections just the other day

and carson is beating hillary in head to head polls

go cry

Pucker up and practice, "Madame President"......the election is a year away.

off topic

you too, when did you wear a uniform on a tour in a muslim country?????

I'm 81 years old.....pulled my military service in company C, 5th btn. 109th armored division in the late 50's early 60's. I was a tank commander on an M-48 medium Patton tank when I was discharged.

So, what combat experience do you have?