Obama:Return the "dumb ****" namer caller's $1 million!

[bodecea]

It's always something. Just be honest. It's okay if someone supporting Democrats talks that way and not if it comes from a Republican.

Well, you DO know Maher isn't a Democrat, right? He identifies himself as a Libertarian.....like all those who like Ron Paul.

He has spoken kindly of Ron Paul. But he never gave him a $Million. Bill Maher is a life-long Democrat.

How odd...he declares himself a Libertarian. Are you saying he is lying?

 

[manifold]

And during those 15 minutes, anyone can say anything about them with zero repercussions.

That's your opinion?

It sure isn't.

I have no sympathy for Rush at all. I'm simply trying to interject a little intellectual honesty into the discussion, it's seriously lacking on both sides. The argument that she should be off limits because she lives a 'private' life is a steaming pile of horseshit.

Please explain.

Because it sounds like you're saying now that ANYONE can publicly insult ANYONE under ANY circumstances.

I'm saying the the moment she chose to step into the public spotlight, and take a stand on a highly charged political issue, she's fair game.

The most telling aspect of this exchange is that my comment had nothing to do with left/right, liberal/conservative, it was simply an objectively honest take on reality. But because I was pointing out the absurdity of your point, you immediately concluded that I must be bashing liberals in general, when nothing could be further from the truth.

Here is a link to the only thread I've started about this topic. Go read the OP and then feel stupid for jumping to conclusions.

 

[paulitician]

Well, you DO know Maher isn't a Democrat, right? He identifies himself as a Libertarian.....like all those who like Ron Paul.

He has spoken kindly of Ron Paul. But he never gave him a $Million. Bill Maher is a life-long Democrat.

How odd...he declares himself a Libertarian. Are you saying he is lying?

Why? Would that be such a surprise? You know, Leftists lie too. They really do. When he gives Ron Paul a $Million, let me know.

 

[paulitician]

Is it legal for a politician to order a PAC to return money?

It's illegal for a politician to co-ordinate ANYTHING with a SuperPAC.

You are correct.

Still, Obama could make a statement condemning the misogynistic, crude language that Maher uses. If he wanted the money returned, it would be returned.

But he has $1,000,000 reasons why he won't say a thing.........

Yup.

 

[Flopper]

So that precludes his fellow Democrats from returning the douche's money? Yeah, that just sounds like a lame & dishonest excuse. And why are you defending that douche? You've been here for days whining about Rush Limbaugh? Do you really care about degrading insults to women, or are you just another disingenuous hypocrite?

As I've said before, Maher was commenting on people who choose to live in the public eye. Limbaugh insulted a woman who chooses to live a private life. It's very different. I've already made my opinion of Maher's comments about the woman breast feeding known, and I don't approve of what he said.

So that's me. Now, care to explain to us all why and how Obama can return the money?

He can influence the money being returned and you know it. You're just playing dumb. These are his fellow Democrats and good buddies who run this PAC. You're just spinning your excuses and hypocrisy. You're trying to rationalize that to yourself. The Democrats can return the douche's money anytime. Now will they? Probably not.

I think the question that needs to be answered is why should Obama request the funds be returned? Maher is a comic whose job is to poke fun at the opposition and he's doing a pretty good job of it. If candidates returned all the money that comes from supporters who lie and curse the opposition, they just as well give up fund raising.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Maher has come out in defense of Limbaugh.

The joke's on you people.

 

[healthmyths]

Maher has come out in defense of Limbaugh.

The joke's on you people.

That's correct and I genuinely thought that was something!

Now if Maher would apologize to Palin for calling her a ****..c..nt... as Limbaugh apologized to Fluke... that would be more meaningful.

I heard a slander lawyer say Fluke doesn't have a slander case since when she went before the public to advocate a specific cause she was a public figure at that point.
Also, the slander lawyer said the calling of Fluke a "slut" was not a term that can be proven "untrue" i.e. define a slut and Fluke would have to prove she was not promiscous.

 

[Sallow]

so Maher is a TV personality.. a darling of liberal media..
BUT did we hear Obama calling Palin for Maher calling her a "dumb ****"?
Where was the MSM evening news asking Maher why he called Palin a "C...nt"?

Where were the advertisers dropping Maher's show?

OR are we seeing once again the famous MSM bias at work?
Rush calls a woman a slut/prostitute.. Obama calls the woman!
Maher calls a woman a dumb **** and "c..nt! and not ONE MSM segment!

Perfect example for you "independent" people to come to realization you have been manipulated by the MSM .. the same people that literally called Obama well here's the quote:


" I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God." – NewsWeek Editor Evan Thomas..

Maher called a public figure and media personality..a dumb ****. Rush called a private citizen involved in a civic duty, a slut and asked for her to do porn for him.

See the diff?

 

[Sallow]

Maher has come out in defense of Limbaugh.

The joke's on you people.

That's correct and I genuinely thought that was something!

Now if Maher would apologize to Palin for calling her a ****..c..nt... as Limbaugh apologized to Fluke... that would be more meaningful.

I heard a slander lawyer say Fluke doesn't have a slander case since when she went before the public to advocate a specific cause she was a public figure at that point.
Also, the slander lawyer said the calling of Fluke a "slut" was not a term that can be proven "untrue" i.e. define a slut and Fluke would have to prove she was not promiscous.

No she's not a "public figure". And defamation of character is a pretty solid legal argument against Rush Limbaugh.

 

[G.T.]

300 or a million!!! 300 or a MILLIONNNNN!!?!?!?>!?!!?!? AAGGGGHHHHHhhhghhhh!!!! *runs away screaming*

 

[Steelplate]

He could influence them returning it, and you know it. So quit playing dumb. And it obviously wouldn't be him returning it personally. That would be the responsibility of his fellow Democrats who run this PAC. Maybe it's time for them to consider it? Just a thought anyway.

You know Pauli, it just occurred to me. You've never said why you think the money should be returned. So let me ask you ...

How could Obama influence them when coordinating with them is against the law?
And
Why should he?

So that precludes his fellow Democrats from returning the douche's money? Yeah, that just sounds like a lame & dishonest excuse. And why are you defending that douche? You've been here for days whining about Rush Limbaugh? Do you really care about degrading insults to women, or are you just another disingenuous hypocrite?

OK folks... Here's the thing. What Maher said was not an insult to WOMEN.... it was an insult of a WOMAN. What Limbaugh said was an insult to all sexually active women in the country.... You fuckers on the right NEVER.... and I mean NEVER... miss a chance for an episode of irrational outrage, do you?

Furthermore.... Fluke is just an everyday person going to law school... something you assholes should look at as "bettering ones' self to be a productive member of society".

Palin is a political figure, a media pundit and also has said things in public that most RATIONAL people find, if not horrific... incredibly dumb and hateful...

BTW.... speaking of Palin...if those on the right are so butt hurt over Maher's comments... where was the outrage when she was calling all of her political opponents "Flaccid and Limp"? She was in effect, emasculating men, was she not?

 

[Jarhead]

You know Pauli, it just occurred to me. You've never said why you think the money should be returned. So let me ask you ...

How could Obama influence them when coordinating with them is against the law?
And
Why should he?

So that precludes his fellow Democrats from returning the douche's money? Yeah, that just sounds like a lame & dishonest excuse. And why are you defending that douche? You've been here for days whining about Rush Limbaugh? Do you really care about degrading insults to women, or are you just another disingenuous hypocrite?

OK folks... Here's the thing. What Maher said was not an insult to WOMEN.... it was an insult of a WOMAN. What Limbaugh said was an insult to all sexually active women in the country.... You fuckers on the right NEVER.... and I mean NEVER... miss a chance for an episode of irrational outrage, do you?

Actually, what Rush did was insult ONE WOMAN based on the fact that requires 3,000 over 3 years for biurth control. Now, seeing as she did not say she needed it for medical/health reasons, $3,000 translats to about 2500 condoms. 2500 divided by 3 years is 833 condoms a year. Divide that by 365 days a year, it translates to 2.28 a day...and someone in college who has sex over twice a day was always looked at as a slut....noit just by guys....by pretty much everyone.

Furthermore.... Fluke is just an everyday person going to law school... something you assholes should look at as "bettering ones' self to be a productive member of society".

Wrong. Fluke has been found to NOT be an everyday person going to law school. It has been found that she is a very visible activist with political connections. She inserted herself in the debate. The backlash was well expected before she did so

Palin is a political figure, a media pundit and also has said things in public that most RATIONAL people find, if not horrific... incredibly dumb and hateful...

Per your opinion. Sure, she has said many things that were either taken out of context or, sometimes, just nbot mainstream thinking. But so has Obama...and Biden...and pretty much anyone who the media follows.

BTW.... speaking of Palin...if those on the right are so butt hurt over Maher's comments... where was the outrage when she was calling all of her political opponents "Flaccid and Limp"? She was in effect, emasculating men, was she not?

Sure she was. I think it was out of line. I dont like what Mahr said not do I like what Rush said. But it is what it is...they all do it.

offered my opinion in red.

 

[healthmyths]

so Maher is a TV personality.. a darling of liberal media..
BUT did we hear Obama calling Palin for Maher calling her a "dumb ****"?
Where was the MSM evening news asking Maher why he called Palin a "C...nt"?

Where were the advertisers dropping Maher's show?

OR are we seeing once again the famous MSM bias at work?
Rush calls a woman a slut/prostitute.. Obama calls the woman!
Maher calls a woman a dumb **** and "c..nt! and not ONE MSM segment!

Perfect example for you "independent" people to come to realization you have been manipulated by the MSM .. the same people that literally called Obama well here's the quote:


" I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God." – NewsWeek Editor Evan Thomas..

Maher called a public figure and media personality..a dumb ****. Rush called a private citizen involved in a civic duty, a slut and asked for her to do porn for him.

See the diff?

I'm going to nuance this in the style of the great Nuancer Bill Clinton and his "Is" Is nauncing...
because I KNOW you appreciate that!!!

Rush's exact words:

"What does it say about the college co-ed Susan Fluke [sic], who goes before a congressional committee and says that she must be paid to have sex. What does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex. She’s having so much sex she can’t afford the contraception.
Rush Limbaugh’s ‘personal attack’ on Sandra Fluke? More like 20 attacks. - Erik Wemple - The Washington Post

1) DID Rush actually say: "Fluke is a slut"? NO!
He said "it makes her a slut"! He didn't call her a SLUT!

2) Did Rush actually call her a "prostitute"? NO!
Rush said:"s that she must be paid to have sex. What does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute."

If someone will not have sex unless they are paid with cash, food, provided condoms or pills they will not have sex unless paid with something!
Prostitute.

In this case a prostitute has sex only if paid and in this case Fluke will have sex
ONLY if she has been paid with contraceptive pills THAT she doesn't pay for!

Sounds like a prostitute to me!
She wouldn't have sex unless she had contraceptives. If someone (employer PAYS for her contraceptives) SHE'LL have SEX! Sounds like a prostitute to me!

Remember we are parsing, nuancing in the great fashion of the following:

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true."
Bill Clinton and the Meaning of "Is"
Bill Clinton and the Meaning of "Is" - Slate Magazine

 

[Steelplate]

So that precludes his fellow Democrats from returning the douche's money? Yeah, that just sounds like a lame & dishonest excuse. And why are you defending that douche? You've been here for days whining about Rush Limbaugh? Do you really care about degrading insults to women, or are you just another disingenuous hypocrite?

OK folks... Here's the thing. What Maher said was not an insult to WOMEN.... it was an insult of a WOMAN. What Limbaugh said was an insult to all sexually active women in the country.... You fuckers on the right NEVER.... and I mean NEVER... miss a chance for an episode of irrational outrage, do you?

Actually, what Rush did was insult ONE WOMAN based on the fact that requires 3,000 over 3 years for biurth control. Now, seeing as she did not say she needed it for medical/health reasons, $3,000 translats to about 2500 condoms. 2500 divided by 3 years is 833 condoms a year. Divide that by 365 days a year, it translates to 2.28 a day...and someone in college who has sex over twice a day was always looked at as a slut....noit just by guys....by pretty much everyone.

Who said anything about just condoms? Birth Control pills do not prevent STD's...only pregnancy. You need a combination of both to have a truly effective method for a sexually active person to prevent pregnancy and protection from disease. The right's mistake is to make it about Condoms only.

Furthermore.... Fluke is just an everyday person going to law school... something you assholes should look at as "bettering ones' self to be a productive member of society".

Wrong. Fluke has been found to NOT be an everyday person going to law school. It has been found that she is a very visible activist with political connections. She inserted herself in the debate. The backlash was well expected before she did soso... what you're saying is that it was a trap for Limbaugh and his followers? If so, why in the hell does your side keep falling into that trap? I'll tell you, but you won't like it... most of you are lemmings who follow people like Rush and Beck like Jesus...and think their word is gospel.


Palin is a political figure, a media pundit and also has said things in public that most RATIONAL people find, if not horrific... incredibly dumb and hateful...

Per your opinion. Sure, she has said many things that were either taken out of context or, sometimes, just nbot mainstream thinking. But so has Obama...and Biden...and pretty much anyone who the media follows.You're right.... My opinion... Hint... MESSAGE BOARD... opinions are not only allowed, but SUPPOSEDLY encouraged...no further comment needed.

BTW.... speaking of Palin...if those on the right are so butt hurt over Maher's comments... where was the outrage when she was calling all of her political opponents "Flaccid and Limp"? She was in effect, emasculating men, was she not?

Sure she was. I think it was out of line. I dont like what Mahr said not do I like what Rush said. But it is what it is...they all do it.

I agree... they all do it. But it's still a different animal when a COMEDIAN and political Satirist like Maher calls a political figure like Palin a name and the Spokesperson for Conservative America does it to a college student....big difference. You know it, I know it and so does most of America.

offered my opinion in red.

Offered my retort in Blue...

 

[manifold]

OK folks... Here's the thing. What Maher said was not an insult to WOMEN.... it was an insult of a WOMAN. What Limbaugh said was an insult to all sexually active women in the country.... You fuckers on the right NEVER.... and I mean NEVER... miss a chance for an episode of irrational outrage, do you?

Actually, what Rush did was insult ONE WOMAN based on the fact that requires 3,000 over 3 years for biurth control. Now, seeing as she did not say she needed it for medical/health reasons, $3,000 translats to about 2500 condoms. 2500 divided by 3 years is 833 condoms a year. Divide that by 365 days a year, it translates to 2.28 a day...and someone in college who has sex over twice a day was always looked at as a slut....noit just by guys....by pretty much everyone.

Who said anything about just condoms? Birth Control pills do not prevent STD's...only pregnancy. You need a combination of both to have a truly effective method for a sexually active person to prevent pregnancy and protection from disease. The right's mistake is to make it about Condoms only.

Furthermore.... Fluke is just an everyday person going to law school... something you assholes should look at as "bettering ones' self to be a productive member of society".

Wrong. Fluke has been found to NOT be an everyday person going to law school. It has been found that she is a very visible activist with political connections. She inserted herself in the debate. The backlash was well expected before she did soso... what you're saying is that it was a trap for Limbaugh and his followers? If so, why in the hell does your side keep falling into that trap? I'll tell you, but you won't like it... most of you are lemmings who follow people like Rush and Beck like Jesus...and think their word is gospel.


Palin is a political figure, a media pundit and also has said things in public that most RATIONAL people find, if not horrific... incredibly dumb and hateful...

Per your opinion. Sure, she has said many things that were either taken out of context or, sometimes, just nbot mainstream thinking. But so has Obama...and Biden...and pretty much anyone who the media follows.You're right.... My opinion... Hint... MESSAGE BOARD... opinions are not only allowed, but SUPPOSEDLY encouraged...no further comment needed.

BTW.... speaking of Palin...if those on the right are so butt hurt over Maher's comments... where was the outrage when she was calling all of her political opponents "Flaccid and Limp"? She was in effect, emasculating men, was she not?

Sure she was. I think it was out of line. I dont like what Mahr said not do I like what Rush said. But it is what it is...they all do it.

I agree... they all do it. But it's still a different animal when a COMEDIAN and political Satirist like Maher calls a political figure like Palin a name and the Spokesperson for Conservative America does it to a college student....big difference. You know it, I know it and so does most of America.

offered my opinion in red.

Offered my retort in Blue...

Ignored the uneducated partisan horseshit coming out of both your yaps.

bwgd?

 

[paulitician]

Nope.

 

[ABikerSailor]

So that precludes his fellow Democrats from returning the douche's money? Yeah, that just sounds like a lame & dishonest excuse. And why are you defending that douche? You've been here for days whining about Rush Limbaugh? Do you really care about degrading insults to women, or are you just another disingenuous hypocrite?

OK folks... Here's the thing. What Maher said was not an insult to WOMEN.... it was an insult of a WOMAN. What Limbaugh said was an insult to all sexually active women in the country.... You fuckers on the right NEVER.... and I mean NEVER... miss a chance for an episode of irrational outrage, do you?

Actually, what Rush did was insult ONE WOMAN based on the fact that requires 3,000 over 3 years for biurth control. Now, seeing as she did not say she needed it for medical/health reasons, $3,000 translats to about 2500 condoms. 2500 divided by 3 years is 833 condoms a year. Divide that by 365 days a year, it translates to 2.28 a day...and someone in college who has sex over twice a day was always looked at as a slut....noit just by guys....by pretty much everyone.

Furthermore.... Fluke is just an everyday person going to law school... something you assholes should look at as "bettering ones' self to be a productive member of society".

Wrong. Fluke has been found to NOT be an everyday person going to law school. It has been found that she is a very visible activist with political connections. She inserted herself in the debate. The backlash was well expected before she did so

Palin is a political figure, a media pundit and also has said things in public that most RATIONAL people find, if not horrific... incredibly dumb and hateful...

Per your opinion. Sure, she has said many things that were either taken out of context or, sometimes, just nbot mainstream thinking. But so has Obama...and Biden...and pretty much anyone who the media follows.

BTW.... speaking of Palin...if those on the right are so butt hurt over Maher's comments... where was the outrage when she was calling all of her political opponents "Flaccid and Limp"? She was in effect, emasculating men, was she not?

Sure she was. I think it was out of line. I dont like what Mahr said not do I like what Rush said. But it is what it is...they all do it.

offered my opinion in red.

You assumed it was condoms, but how much do birth control pills cost? If it's around 90 bucks a package, then yeah......it WOULD equal 1,000 bucks a year, or 3,000 bucks for 3 years.

But pinheads like you can only think about the cheapest form (condoms) because then you can say she's having sex all the time. Got news for you..........a woman has to take the pill every day whether she's having sex or not, and if it's for a medical condition, she might even still be a virgin, but in your pursuit of partisan hackery, you miss that point completely.

Besides...........Maher made 1 or 2 comments on 1 show, Limbaugh kept it up for 3 days, or 9 hours, of his show.

 

[healthmyths]

YOU Wrote:
"But pinheads like you can only think about the cheapest form (condoms) because then you can say she's having sex all the time. Got news for you..........a woman has to take the pill every day whether she's having sex or not, and if it's for a medical condition, she might even still be a virgin, but in your pursuit of partisan hackery, you miss that point completely."

HMMM.. WOULDN"T being on the pill mean she doesn't need a condom to have sex ALL the time?
I mean at $1,000/yr condoms as figured only 2 times a day!

BUT your point makes it even more slutty! NOT needing condoms she literally could have sex 24 hours a day !

IDIOT!

 

[Steelplate]

YOU Wrote:
"But pinheads like you can only think about the cheapest form (condoms) because then you can say she's having sex all the time. Got news for you..........a woman has to take the pill every day whether she's having sex or not, and if it's for a medical condition, she might even still be a virgin, but in your pursuit of partisan hackery, you miss that point completely."

HMMM.. WOULDN"T being on the pill mean she doesn't need a condom to have sex ALL the time?
I mean at $1,000/yr condoms as figured only 2 times a day!

BUT your point makes it even more slutty! NOT needing condoms she literally could have sex 24 hours a day !

IDIOT!

Wow.... healthmyths....appropriate name for you.

You do realize that Birth Control does not prevent Sexually Transmitted Diseases, right? For an effective birth control/disease prevention plan, you need both. Condoms alone have a failure rate. Birth Control pills do nothing to keep you safe from disease.

And you have the nerve to call another poster an idiot? Good God...look in a mirror.