Obama Proposes 2 Years of Free Community College

[Unkotare]

Obama proposes we all get Unicorns next. you watch

I wish he'd lose his voice myself. sick of hearing from him every single damn day..

You mean the 'great orator'?

 

[percysunshine]

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Sooo...the $200 Obamaphone was so successful at buying votes, he is going to spend $3,800 per vote now?

Is there a Harvard economist in the room who can explain the concept of diminishing returns to our dear leader?

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[Mr Natural]

If we can piss away a trillion dollars on the Iraq fiasco, we certainly afford two years of community college for our own people.

 

[Iceweasel]

Obama President Proposes 2 Free Years of Community College

President Barack Obama announced a proposal Thursday to provide two years of free community-college tuition to American students who maintain good grades.

He also said that this plan will save at least 3.800$ per year, it means that student should continue working, because this plan will not give them: food, clothing and house! What for this circus? I don't know!

obbie said obamaCare would save everyone money too. In case you haven't figured it out yet obbie does just about everything for politics' sake. This is all about pandering to the youth vote, the young ignorant that are still in a gimmie mode with no thought or care to who is picking up the tab.

 

[Iceweasel]

If we can piss away a trillion dollars on the Iraq fiasco, we certainly afford two years of community college for our own people.

It wasn't pissed away, we haven't had another 9/11 for a reason. How about two years of military service for two years of a trade school or community college?

 

[percysunshine]

If we can piss away a trillion dollars on the Iraq fiasco, we certainly afford two years of community college for our own people.

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When I was young, I use to think that my past stupid behavior justified my present stupid behavior. At some point, I realized that I needed to grow up and stop deceiving myself.

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[Boatswain2PA]

Just more pandering by the Marxist in chief. This proposal will go nowhere and he knows that. It's just a trap he's setting to beat the Republicans with because he knows they won't go along with it.

Could be, could be indeed from the political dynamic standpoint. Hey that's purty smart, you been ta school, boy?

Yes, very much puts the opposition between a rock and a hard place, because now they have to make the argument on why education is a bad thing. At best they'll prolly sputter the old standby "will never work", as we've already heard from one of the deeper wags in this thread.

But there's never anything wrong with proposing an ideal and suggesting "what if". That's how improvements eventually get done.

You're right, it does put the opposition between a rock and a hard place, but only because #1: The "opposition" (ie: Republican party) doesn't have anyone who can concisely and clearly explain their position, and #2: the media spins every message so far to the left.

Nobody is arguing "education is a bad thing." Just like nobody is arguing that food, housing, cell phones, transportation, etc (ad nauseum) are "bad things". However when some of us have to provide all of these things for other people, and those people get them for "free", it devalues those things.

Look at the areas that have "free housing". Do you want to live next door?

 

[Boatswain2PA]

If we can piss away a trillion dollars on the Iraq fiasco, we certainly afford two years of community college for our own people.

It wasn't pissed away, we haven't had another 9/11 for a reason. How about two years of military service for two years of a trade school or community college?

Already have that, it's called the GI Bill (although it requires 4 years service). Better yet, you can get your AA (or maybe even BS) while in the military with tutition assistance, and then get your BS (or maybe even your MS) using your GI bill.

But that's not good enough for liberals, they want everything to be "free", which after a generation makes them worthless.

 

[JoeMoma]

Perhaps high school should just be extended two more years.

 

[Stephanie]

Obama President Proposes 2 Free Years of Community College

President Barack Obama announced a proposal Thursday to provide two years of free community-college tuition to American students who maintain good grades.

He also said that this plan will save at least 3.800$ per year, it means that student should continue working, because this plan will not give them: food, clothing and house! What for this circus? I don't know!

obbie said obamaCare would save everyone money too. In case you haven't figured it out yet obbie does just about everything for politics' sake. This is all about pandering to the youth vote, the young ignorant that are still in a gimmie mode with no thought or care to who is picking up the tab.

yep, you notice he went into a HIGH school to give his VISIONS for all. They are a captive audience for one, plus would more than likely eat up his BS

 

[Flopper]

Obama President Proposes 2 Free Years of Community College

President Barack Obama announced a proposal Thursday to provide two years of free community-college tuition to American students who maintain good grades.

He also said that this plan will save at least 3.800$ per year, it means that student should continue working, because this plan will not give them: food, clothing and house! What for this circus? I don't know!

So he will give extra funding to the golden apples, who would pass and get a job anyway. While the rest that community colleges are meant to be there for have to pack their bags, as the government attempts to make them as elitist as Harvard.

What this means is that community colleges will accept only students that get the government hand out for 'good grades' or those that can pay upfront.

Once again 'good intentions' of government is destroying American education, just like common core. Thanks Obama, for keeping the poor and struggling students out of education.

Community colleges generally have no academic requirements for admission other than graduation from high school and in some states even that is not required.

 

[hipeter924]

Obama President Proposes 2 Free Years of Community College

President Barack Obama announced a proposal Thursday to provide two years of free community-college tuition to American students who maintain good grades.

He also said that this plan will save at least 3.800$ per year, it means that student should continue working, because this plan will not give them: food, clothing and house! What for this circus? I don't know!

So he will give extra funding to the golden apples, who would pass and get a job anyway. While the rest that community colleges are meant to be there for have to pack their bags, as the government attempts to make them as elitist as Harvard.

What this means is that community colleges will accept only students that get the government hand out for 'good grades' or those that can pay upfront.

Once again 'good intentions' of government is destroying American education, just like common core. Thanks Obama, for keeping the poor and struggling students out of education.

Community colleges generally have no academic requirements for admission other than graduation from high school and in some states even that is not required.

Yep, but incentivizing a school or university towards a particular group of well performing students rather than increasing funding for poorly performing students at the same time - will give them even less of an excuse to bother about the 'bad eggs' and just let them fail. And when they fail, taxpayers have to suffer the bill - as well as the social costs that come with having more people debt ridden and unemployed.

 

[Iceweasel]

Under a Republican controlled government, there will be no need for such education, welfare, minimum wage, or unemployment. Americans will work for $2/hr and corporate America will be able to compete with the Chinese.

Were you being fisted when you typed that?

 

[Flopper]

Obama President Proposes 2 Free Years of Community College

President Barack Obama announced a proposal Thursday to provide two years of free community-college tuition to American students who maintain good grades.

He also said that this plan will save at least 3.800$ per year, it means that student should continue working, because this plan will not give them: food, clothing and house! What for this circus? I don't know!

So he will give extra funding to the golden apples, who would pass and get a job anyway. While the rest that community colleges are meant to be there for have to pack their bags, as the government attempts to make them as elitist as Harvard.

What this means is that community colleges will accept only students that get the government hand out for 'good grades' or those that can pay upfront.

Once again 'good intentions' of government is destroying American education, just like common core. Thanks Obama, for keeping the poor and struggling students out of education.

Community colleges generally have no academic requirements for admission other than graduation from high school and in some states even that is not required.

Yep, but incentivizing a school or university towards a particular group of well performing students rather than increasing funding for poorly performing students at the same time - will give them even less of an excuse to bother about the 'bad eggs' and just let them fail. And when they fail, taxpayers have to suffer the bill - as well as the social costs that come with having more people debt ridden and unemployed.

I don't see how it gives the school any incentive. What difference does it make to the school who pays the tuition, the student, the state, a scholarship fund, or the federal government.

 

[Pogo]

Just more pandering by the Marxist in chief. This proposal will go nowhere and he knows that. It's just a trap he's setting to beat the Republicans with because he knows they won't go along with it.

Could be, could be indeed from the political dynamic standpoint. Hey that's purty smart, you been ta school, boy?

Yes, very much puts the opposition between a rock and a hard place, because now they have to make the argument on why education is a bad thing. At best they'll prolly sputter the old standby "will never work", as we've already heard from one of the deeper wags in this thread.

But there's never anything wrong with proposing an ideal and suggesting "what if". That's how improvements eventually get done.

You're right, it does put the opposition between a rock and a hard place, but only because #1: The "opposition" (ie: Republican party) doesn't have anyone who can concisely and clearly explain their position, and #2: the media spins every message so far to the left.

Nobody is arguing "education is a bad thing." Just like nobody is arguing that food, housing, cell phones, transportation, etc (ad nauseum) are "bad things". However when some of us have to provide all of these things for other people, and those people get them for "free", it devalues those things.

Look at the areas that have "free housing". Do you want to live next door?

Once again....

Making food, housing, cellphones, transportation etc available to the masses doesn't directly benefit the community as a whole, i.e. they don't produce a more productive citizen. That's why this comparison is still apples and oranges.

Look at it this way: a society handing out free stuff that benefits nobody but the recipient is just handing out free stuff. A society investing in educating its own is investing in itself.

 

[Pogo]

If we can piss away a trillion dollars on the Iraq fiasco, we certainly afford two years of community college for our own people.

Astutely put. There's SO no answer to that.

 

[Katzndogz]

Just more pandering by the Marxist in chief. This proposal will go nowhere and he knows that. It's just a trap he's setting to beat the Republicans with because he knows they won't go along with it.

Could be, could be indeed from the political dynamic standpoint. Hey that's purty smart, you been ta school, boy?

Yes, very much puts the opposition between a rock and a hard place, because now they have to make the argument on why education is a bad thing. At best they'll prolly sputter the old standby "will never work", as we've already heard from one of the deeper wags in this thread.

But there's never anything wrong with proposing an ideal and suggesting "what if". That's how improvements eventually get done.

You're right, it does put the opposition between a rock and a hard place, but only because #1: The "opposition" (ie: Republican party) doesn't have anyone who can concisely and clearly explain their position, and #2: the media spins every message so far to the left.

Nobody is arguing "education is a bad thing." Just like nobody is arguing that food, housing, cell phones, transportation, etc (ad nauseum) are "bad things". However when some of us have to provide all of these things for other people, and those people get them for "free", it devalues those things.

Look at the areas that have "free housing". Do you want to live next door?

Once again....

Making food, housing, cellphones, transportation etc available to the masses doesn't directly benefit the community as a whole, i.e. they don't produce a more productive citizen. That's why this comparison is still apples and oranges.

Look at it this way: a society handing out free stuff that benefits nobody but the recipient is just handing out free stuff. A society investing in educating its own is investing in itself.

Only if the education was real. Today we have more people graduating four year universities than ever before. We also have a population of college graduates that is less educated than at any time in history.

Community colleges will join the universities.

 

[Flopper]

Just more pandering by the Marxist in chief. This proposal will go nowhere and he knows that. It's just a trap he's setting to beat the Republicans with because he knows they won't go along with it.

Could be, could be indeed from the political dynamic standpoint. Hey that's purty smart, you been ta school, boy?

Yes, very much puts the opposition between a rock and a hard place, because now they have to make the argument on why education is a bad thing. At best they'll prolly sputter the old standby "will never work", as we've already heard from one of the deeper wags in this thread.

But there's never anything wrong with proposing an ideal and suggesting "what if". That's how improvements eventually get done.

You're right, it does put the opposition between a rock and a hard place, but only because #1: The "opposition" (ie: Republican party) doesn't have anyone who can concisely and clearly explain their position, and #2: the media spins every message so far to the left.

Nobody is arguing "education is a bad thing." Just like nobody is arguing that food, housing, cell phones, transportation, etc (ad nauseum) are "bad things". However when some of us have to provide all of these things for other people, and those people get them for "free", it devalues those things.

Look at the areas that have "free housing". Do you want to live next door?

Once again....

Making food, housing, cellphones, transportation etc available to the masses doesn't directly benefit the community as a whole, i.e. they don't produce a more productive citizen. That's why this comparison is still apples and oranges.

Look at it this way: a society handing out free stuff that benefits nobody but the recipient is just handing out free stuff. A society investing in educating its own is investing in itself.

Additional education benefits no one?

 

[Politico]

Because we have so much available cash...

Yet to see a government program that stayed within budget, much less saved money.

Bless your heart. No gubbermint program has ever stayed in budget.

 

[longknife]

Nothing is free. Someone, most likely taxpayers will be footing the bill.

The reason why I know liberals are stupid is because they vote for a bigger more invasive government and then bitch when their taxes go up. You can't have a big government without high taxes.

Don't have links but items on the internet generally agree it would cost approximately $60 billion per year!!!