Obama library to require ID to enter.

Thing is...

#1 The Obama Library is a private entity not a government entity. They can do as they please.

#2 The Obama Library has an admission charge of $30 dollars, and "Free Tuesdays" applies only to certain groups (Illinois Residents, Active Duty, Veterans, First Responders) and the ID is to show residency to qualify.

#3 It's the same policy as other Illinois Museums:
  • Art Institute of Chicago (Opens in a new tab)
  • Adler Planetarium (Opens in a new tab)
  • American Writers Museum (Opens in a new tab)
  • Brookfield Zoo Chicago (Opens in a new tab)
  • Chicago History Museum (Opens in a new tab)
  • Chicago Botanic Garden (Opens in a new tab)
  • DuSable Black History Museum and Education Center (Opens in a new tab)
  • Field Museum (Opens in a new tab)
  • Griffin Museum of Science and Industry (Opens in a new tab)
  • Illinois Holocaust Museum & Education Center (Opens in a new tab)
  • Museum of Contemporary Art (Opens in a new tab)
  • Peggy Notebaert Nature Museum (Opens in a new tab)
  • Shedd Aquarium (Opens in a new tab)
  • Swedish American Museum

WW

This goes right over your head.

It has nothing to do with it being a private entity or not.

If you must prove you are an Illinois resident to enter the library on the free day, then it goes without saying that you must prove you are a U.S. citizen to vote.
 
To be fair, all the people who SUPPOSEDLY exist who cannot obtain an ID, but are disenfranchised by not being allowed to vote anonymously are unlikely to visit a library.

Where are these people? The left never parades them in front of the camera nor ASSISTS THEM IN OBTAINING AN ID.

THE ONLY SOLUTION IS NO ID TO VOTE.

😂😂😂🤡🤡

The bullshit is so deep, it is comical.
 
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This goes right over your head.

It has nothing to do with it being a private entity or not.

If you must prove you are an Illinois resident to enter the library on the free day, then it goes without saying that you must prove you are a U.S. citizen to vote.

Oh I get it, I just think the troll thread is funny.

But then again I support Voter ID (with conditions) and think our current idea of voter registration is silly. You have to prove citizenship (over and over again) to a government that already knows who the citizens are.

The current logic is you have to get government documents from a government entity, then go to a different government entity and present the documents at this other government entity that you got from the other government entity to get a government issued ID. Then you have to take the government issued ID to another different government entity to "register" the government ID you just went though two government entities to get. Finally on election day you have to go to another government entity location (polling place) and present the government ID to a government offical to receive the ballot to vote.

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PREMISE:

The current model of “voter” registration is a carryover from the British system established during the birth of our country and was based on a time when:
  • The main mode of transportation was shanks mare (feet)
  • Cargo was moved by horse drawn wagons
  • It could take days and multiple riders for information to travel from the State Capital to any point in the state and weeks if information needed to move from one end of the country to another (say Maine to Florida). As the country expanded that time could be measured in months (east coast to west coast).
During those times the idea of “Voter Registration” being localized made sense as the vast majority of the population was born, lived, and died in the same 100 mile circle.

That time is passed, we now live in the age of a highly mobile society with instant communications. Hell sitting here on the east coast I can pick up a phone, punch in a few numbers and be talking with my daughter stationed in Japan.

RECOMMENDATION:
Therefore I think it’s time to fundamentally change the core concept of “Voter Registration” from the current model of registering to vote and having to prove you are eligible to being automatically an eligible voter unless the franchised is removed for a reason (felony, death, mental incapacity, etc.).

This fundamental shift from “having to register to vote” to “eligible voter” would be based on the integration of various sources of information into a central clearing house that all states would be required to participate in for election for federal offices. If they decided to maintain a separate parallel system for state/local elections, they would be free to do so.

All eligible citizens are fundamentally considered “registered to vote” as long as they are of the correct age and have not had their franchise removed. So it becomes less a question of “who” is eligible to vote, the only remaining question is “where” they are eligible to vote.

This “Voter Electronic Eligibility Center” system would include:
  • Real time access to voter eligibility information via an encrypted secure network to state and local boards of election.
  • State and local boards would be able to download voters whose address falls within their jurisdiction.
  • State and local officials would have access to querying and updating individual statuses.
  • Information would be integrated from various sources which provide input into the system.
  • State Department responsible for vital records - births, deaths, etc.
  • State Department of Taxation – current address, change of Address
  • State Department of Motor Vehicles – current address, change of address
  • State Departments of State – Court actions and restoration of franchise after removed by court action
  • United States Postal Service – National valid addresses, change of address
  • Social Security Administration – births deaths, etc.
  • Federal Department of State – naturalization of new citizens
  • The various Felony level courts at both the State and Federal level – removal of the franchise via felony conviction
Because of the data integration between the various agencies, the idea of “voter eligibility” is shifted. There are no “purging the roles” based on inactivity. All citizens are considered active voters.

Where you vote then becomes a function of your primary legal address (of which you will only have one). If you move, that address change will automatically be fed into the system and your information would be downloaded to the local elections office.

When you are born, you are automatically registered into the system and become “eligible to vote” at your 18th birthday. You just have to wait to get there of course.

If you die, when that death is registered it is automatically communicated to the VEEC making you ineligible to vote.

Now in my humble opinion, it would take 10-15 years for such a system. First you need funding. Then the IT experts and Database geeks are going to have to map out the secure communication systems and data interface software that will function between agencies. Then you are going to need a few years each of “Alpha” and “Beta” testing before it can really go live. But once all the players are in place it could really streamline what we view as “voter registration” making it so much easier for (a) us as individuals and (b) for the voting process in general.

WW
 
Oh I get it, I just think the troll thread is funny.

But then again I support Voter ID (with conditions) and think our current idea of voter registration is silly. You have to prove citizenship (over and over again) to a government that already knows who the citizens are.

The current logic is you have to get government documents from a government entity, then go to a different government entity and present the documents at this other government entity that you got from the other government entity to get a government issued ID. Then you have to take the government issued ID to another different government entity to "register" the government ID you just went though two government entities to get. Finally on election day you have to go to another government entity location (polling place) and present the government ID to a government offical to receive the ballot to vote.

.
.
.
PREMISE:

The current model of “voter” registration is a carryover from the British system established during the birth of our country and was based on a time when:
  • The main mode of transportation was shanks mare (feet)
  • Cargo was moved by horse drawn wagons
  • It could take days and multiple riders for information to travel from the State Capital to any point in the state and weeks if information needed to move from one end of the country to another (say Maine to Florida). As the country expanded that time could be measured in months (east coast to west coast).
During those times the idea of “Voter Registration” being localized made sense as the vast majority of the population was born, lived, and died in the same 100 mile circle.

That time is passed, we now live in the age of a highly mobile society with instant communications. Hell sitting here on the east coast I can pick up a phone, punch in a few numbers and be talking with my daughter stationed in Japan.

RECOMMENDATION:
Therefore I think it’s time to fundamentally change the core concept of “Voter Registration” from the current model of registering to vote and having to prove you are eligible to being automatically an eligible voter unless the franchised is removed for a reason (felony, death, mental incapacity, etc.).

This fundamental shift from “having to register to vote” to “eligible voter” would be based on the integration of various sources of information into a central clearing house that all states would be required to participate in for election for federal offices. If they decided to maintain a separate parallel system for state/local elections, they would be free to do so.

All eligible citizens are fundamentally considered “registered to vote” as long as they are of the correct age and have not had their franchise removed. So it becomes less a question of “who” is eligible to vote, the only remaining question is “where” they are eligible to vote.

This “Voter Electronic Eligibility Center” system would include:
  • Real time access to voter eligibility information via an encrypted secure network to state and local boards of election.
  • State and local boards would be able to download voters whose address falls within their jurisdiction.
  • State and local officials would have access to querying and updating individual statuses.
  • Information would be integrated from various sources which provide input into the system.
  • State Department responsible for vital records - births, deaths, etc.
  • State Department of Taxation – current address, change of Address
  • State Department of Motor Vehicles – current address, change of address
  • State Departments of State – Court actions and restoration of franchise after removed by court action
  • United States Postal Service – National valid addresses, change of address
  • Social Security Administration – births deaths, etc.
  • Federal Department of State – naturalization of new citizens
  • The various Felony level courts at both the State and Federal level – removal of the franchise via felony conviction
Because of the data integration between the various agencies, the idea of “voter eligibility” is shifted. There are no “purging the roles” based on inactivity. All citizens are considered active voters.

Where you vote then becomes a function of your primary legal address (of which you will only have one). If you move, that address change will automatically be fed into the system and your information would be downloaded to the local elections office.

When you are born, you are automatically registered into the system and become “eligible to vote” at your 18th birthday. You just have to wait to get there of course.

If you die, when that death is registered it is automatically communicated to the VEEC making you ineligible to vote.

Now in my humble opinion, it would take 10-15 years for such a system. First you need funding. Then the IT experts and Database geeks are going to have to map out the secure communication systems and data interface software that will function between agencies. Then you are going to need a few years each of “Alpha” and “Beta” testing before it can really go live. But once all the players are in place it could really streamline what we view as “voter registration” making it so much easier for (a) us as individuals and (b) for the voting process in general.

WW
I support voter ID without conditions.

You MUST have one to vote. Full stop.

I, too, oppose massive bureaucracy.

The reality of the world is that a good many people are dishonest or are driven by their greed and ideology. With the divide in this country from the Maoists/Communists/Marxists, and their willingness to do whatever it takes to grab and hold power, the best way to destroy our country is to not enforce ID laws regarding voting.

But I'll put it a simpler way.

If you demand an ID to exercise the right of gun ownership, then I can demand an ID to prove you are a citizen and not cancel any citizens' vote if you are not.
 
I support voter ID without conditions.

You MUST have one to vote. Full stop.

I, too, oppose massive bureaucracy.

The reality of the world is that a good many people are dishonest or are driven by their greed and ideology. With the divide in this country from the Maoists/Communists/Marxists, and their willingness to do whatever it takes to grab and hold power, the best way to destroy our country is to not enforce ID laws regarding voting.

But I'll put it a simpler way.

If you demand an ID to exercise the right of gun ownership, then I can demand an ID to prove you are a citizen and not cancel any citizens' vote if you are not.

Let's go ever farther: A NICS background check and three-day waiting period. to vote.
 
So racist.

A citizen cannot enter the Obama library without an ID.

Disgusting racism.

What is this, SLAVERY TIME?

All those people without ID who want to vote and want to go to the Presidential library of the first BLACK PRESIDENT cannot even go inside without ID?

JUST APPALLING.

OBAMA IS A NAZI.

It's Jim Crow 2.026.
 
Thing is...

#1 The Obama Library is a private entity not a government entity. They can do as they please.

#2 The Obama Library has an admission charge of $30 dollars, and "Free Tuesdays" applies only to certain groups (Illinois Residents, Active Duty, Veterans, First Responders) and the ID is to show residency to qualify.

#3 It's the same policy as other Illinois Museums:
  • Art Institute of Chicago (Opens in a new tab)
  • Adler Planetarium (Opens in a new tab)
  • American Writers Museum (Opens in a new tab)
  • Brookfield Zoo Chicago (Opens in a new tab)
  • Chicago History Museum (Opens in a new tab)
  • Chicago Botanic Garden (Opens in a new tab)
  • DuSable Black History Museum and Education Center (Opens in a new tab)
  • Field Museum (Opens in a new tab)
  • Griffin Museum of Science and Industry (Opens in a new tab)
  • Illinois Holocaust Museum & Education Center (Opens in a new tab)
  • Museum of Contemporary Art (Opens in a new tab)
  • Peggy Notebaert Nature Museum (Opens in a new tab)
  • Shedd Aquarium (Opens in a new tab)
  • Swedish American Museum

WW


That's a lot of racism right there.
 
They can do as they please, so Obama CHOSE to keep blacks out of his library,

Wow.

These people are too poor and stupid to get ID, and Obama himself will not allow them to enjoy a location that celebrates the first black President.

Obama = NAZI

Seems like JIM CROW LAWS.

BLACKS NOT ALLOWED IN THE OBAMA LIBRARY.

Nor MARRIED WOMEN WHO HAVE NOT GOTTEN AN ID WITH THEIR MARRIED NAME.

WOW!

Half Black
 
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I don't know why anyone would want to enter.

Ears and his husband were a disaster
 
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