Obama does not lower flags for Tennessee shooting

[Mr. H.]

 

[thereisnospoon]

We have enough laws. Try to get the black dummy to enforce them

BTW- These were Marines killed. They deserve the respect 1/2 mast would have displayed

I think we need to respect them by actually trying to keep this sort of thing from happening again.

Gun laws would help. this guy never should have been able to buy a gun, but once again, he was.

Gun laws we have...Some of the cities with the most stringent gun laws also have the highest rates of murder by firearm.
Anyway, you're deflecting. Obama should have ordered half mast...he didn't. That shows a tremendous lack of respect toward members of the armed forces.

 

[Political Junky]

Why so surprised everybody, the he didn't lower the flag right away? as soon as this tragedy took place??

The answer is because Hussein Obama the Great Iranian ...hates America and he hates the military!

No rocket science here.

So now Obama is Iranian, or don't you know the difference?

 

[Mr. H.]

Why so surprised everybody, the he didn't lower the flag right away? as soon as this tragedy took place??

The answer is because Hussein Obama the Great Iranian ...hates America and he hates the military!

No rocket science here.

So now Obama is Iranian, or don't you know the difference?

Obama is whatever we say he is.
Get over it.

 

[skye]

Why so surprised everybody, the he didn't lower the flag right away? as soon as this tragedy took place??

The answer is because Hussein Obama the Great Iranian ...hates America and he hates the military!

No rocket science here.

So now Obama is Iranian, or don't you know the difference?

LOL

too funny.....is just that he surrounds himself with Iranians like that scum Valerie Jarret... what a President!

 

[Zoom-boing]

 

[idb]

Obama orders flags to half mast for Chattanooga victims - CNNPolitics.com

Finally ..He must have had to take a poll first ,to see if not lowering the flag would hurt him politically

Exactly!

Kicking and screaming he was taken to do it!

What a miserable worm!

I bet he didn't use the word 'terrorist' 30 seconds after the shootings when he should have...or did he use 'terrorist' when he shouldn't have?
It's so hard to tell which way the outrage will go sometimes.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Obama orders flags to half mast for Chattanooga victims - CNNPolitics.com

Finally ..He must have had to take a poll first ,to see if not lowering the flag would hurt him politically

Exactly!

Kicking and screaming he was taken to do it!

What a miserable worm!

I bet he didn't use the word 'terrorist' 30 seconds after the shootings when he should have...or did he use 'terrorist' when he shouldn't have?
It's so hard to tell which way the outrage will go sometimes.

Trick question! obama never uses the word terrorist in conjunction with the word muslim.

 

[idb]

Obama orders flags to half mast for Chattanooga victims - CNNPolitics.com

Finally ..He must have had to take a poll first ,to see if not lowering the flag would hurt him politically

Exactly!

Kicking and screaming he was taken to do it!

What a miserable worm!

I bet he didn't use the word 'terrorist' 30 seconds after the shootings when he should have...or did he use 'terrorist' when he shouldn't have?
It's so hard to tell which way the outrage will go sometimes.

Trick question! obama never uses the word terrorist in conjunction with the word muslim.

Damn!
Never saw that one coming!

 

[JoeB131]

Finally ..He must have had to take a poll first ,to see if not lowering the flag would hurt him politically

Obama doesn't have to run for anything again... so it's not hurting him one way or the other.

Now, again, if we did something meaningful like pass a law so crazy people can't buy guns, that would be a big help.

 

[JoeB131]

Gun laws we have...Some of the cities with the most stringent gun laws also have the highest rates of murder by firearm.

"Most stringent guns laws" are like "Leper with the most fingers", dude. Really doesn't help to have a gun law in Chicago when you can drive right over to Cicero and buy a gun.

Anyway, you're deflecting. Obama should have ordered half mast...he didn't. That shows a tremendous lack of respect toward members of the armed forces.

Members of the armed forces are killed in accidents and crime all the time. The only thing that makes this different is the perp was a "Moooooslim".

 

[Stephanie]

Why so surprised everybody, the he didn't lower the flag right away? as soon as this tragedy took place??

The answer is because Hussein Obama the Great Iranian ...hates America and he hates the military!

No rocket science here.

So now Obama is Iranian, or don't you know the difference?

who knows, but he does have the little midget Iranian woman as his personal, so called assistant Valarie Jarret. Who seems to be the one running things. because he constantly running the country going on television shows to tell his lies. Or going to fundraiser, searching for new places to play golf, etc etc
This deal with Iran wasn't in our FAVOR. it was totally for IRAN. so think about it folks

 

[JoeB131]

who knows, but he does have the little midget Iranian woman as his personal, so called assistant Valarie Jarret. Who seems to be the one running things. because he constantly running the country going on television shows to tell his lies. Or going to fundraiser, searching for new places to play golf, etc etc
This deal with Iran wasn't in our FAVOR. it was totally for IRAN. so think about it folks

I have thought about it.

we avoided war with Iran. I think that IS totally in our favor.

 

[Geaux4it]

who knows, but he does have the little midget Iranian woman as his personal, so called assistant Valarie Jarret. Who seems to be the one running things. because he constantly running the country going on television shows to tell his lies. Or going to fundraiser, searching for new places to play golf, etc etc
This deal with Iran wasn't in our FAVOR. it was totally for IRAN. so think about it folks

I have thought about it.

we avoided war with Iran. I think that IS totally in our favor.

LIE!

Obama never ever thought of going to war with Iran

-Geaux

 

[JoeB131]

LIE!

Obama never ever thought of going to war with Iran

-Geaux

This treaty makes it harder for a future president to do so... so it's a good thing.

 

[Geaux4it]

LIE!

Obama never ever thought of going to war with Iran

-Geaux

This treaty makes it harder for a future president to do so... so it's a good thing.

How about the other way around, does it make it harder for Iran to go to war with us? Or our allies?

-Geaux

 

[kaz]

Flags at Half-Staff After Chattanooga Shooting snopes.com

In the wake of the Chattanooga tragedy, the governors of several states directed their state flags to be flown at half-staff to honor the victims of those shootings, such as Tennessee (where the attack occurred), Massachusetts (where one of the killed Marines hailed from), and Arkansas (where another of the killed Marines hailed from).

A number of commenters noted with puzzlement or dismay that President Obama did not direct that the U.S. flag similarly be lowered to half-staff at the White House and other public buildings in memorial of the slain U.S. servicemen:


There are numerous reports on the Internet that the White House did not lower the flags to half staff following the shooting of 4 marines (and now a 5th serviceman who is navy) in Chattanooga Tennessee (July 2015).

There were orders by the President for flags to be flown at half-staff following the shootings at Fort Hood, the Aurora Century Theater, Virginia Tech, and Sandy Hook. Why the difference?
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Indeed, the White House web site does not record President Obama’s having issued any proclamation to that effect, nor do flag notification sites. And it is true that President Obama issued proclamations ordering the flag of the United States be flown at half-staff following similar events such as the mass shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, in December 2012, and the Boston Marathon bombing of April 2013.

Some have speculated that the lack of a presidential proclamation might be because as tragic and senseless as they were, the Chattanooga deaths involved members of the U.S. armed forces who are considered to have been killed in the line of duty (unlike the other mass shooting events referenced above, which involved civilian deaths), and while individual states often lower their flags to honor local natives or residents who die in the service of their country, doing so at a national level would require the President to pick and choose among service deaths to decide which to so honor.

Others noted that that speculation seemingly ran counter to the fact that President Obama did issue a proclamation directing the lowering of U.S. flags after the November 2009 mass shooting at Fort Hood, Texas, that left thirteen people dead and another thirty-two wounded (both military and civilian, although predominantly the former). In the Fort Hood case, however, the shooter was himself a member of the U.S. Army, and the attack was classified as an act of workplace violence.

A meme from previous years that was widely recirculated after the Chattanooga shootings falsely claimed that President Obama had ordered flags to be flown at half-staff following the 2012 death of singer Whitney Houston. That actions was actually a decision made at the state level by New Jersey governor Chris Christie.

Just to be clear, were you expecting Obama to lower the flag for the servicemen or the shooter?

 

[JoeB131]

How about the other way around, does it make it harder for Iran to go to war with us? Or our allies?

The Islamic Republic has never attacked one of its neighbors, so, no.

As opposed to the US, which has bombed, occupied or invaded 15 Islamic countries since 1980.

The thing was, the Iranians weren't really interested in a bomb to start with. They get sanctions relief, trade and assets returned for not doing something.

What has our "Allies" (A bunch of shitheads who cause a lot of our problems) upset is not that they have a fear of an Iranian bomb, but that IRan will be mainstreamed back into the international community.

 

[Geaux4it]

How about the other way around, does it make it harder for Iran to go to war with us? Or our allies?

The Islamic Republic has never attacked one of its neighbors, so, no.

As opposed to the US, which has bombed, occupied or invaded 15 Islamic countries since 1980.

The thing was, the Iranians weren't really interested in a bomb to start with. They get sanctions relief, trade and assets returned for not doing something.

What has our "Allies" (A bunch of shitheads who cause a lot of our problems) upset is not that they have a fear of an Iranian bomb, but that IRan will be mainstreamed back into the international community.

You have some real serious mental issues and should seek out assistance for your illness

Don't listen to the fools, you're treatable

-Geaux

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Let me explain...the decision as to Same Sex marriage was an event that unfolded over years of litigation and came to a denouement when the SCOTUS issued its recent decision...so it was not an unexpected situation allowing for planning.

The shooting of the Marines was an imponderable event . It was totally unexpected so the planning that allowed the WH Light display was not applicable..

Here’s how a flag etiquette expert explained the “delay.”

“The five military personnel who were killed were classified as killed “in the line of duty” by the Pentagon. For this reason, the responsibility goes to the Governors of the each state that had a fallen hero. The President does not typically order that flags be lowered for “in the line of duty” tragedies; if he were to do so, the flags would have to ALWAYS be lowered because of soldiers dying “in the line of duty”. The flags would have remained lowered for YEARS during the wars if this were the process. So it’s not just Obama. The President has ordered flags lowered numerous times when there have been civilian casualties along with military casualties (like Fort Hood). But because these deaths occurred “in the line of duty”, it is a different situation. I