Obama and 'The Wrong Side of History'

[PoliticalChic]

As the Bard noted:

“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”



1. So.....by the same token, one who not only lacks any understanding of history, and botches it when he tries to insert himself therein, can pretend he in an influence in same.

... this dunce, Obama, who has seen his policies and ideas fail literally dozens of times....and I mean 'literally' literally....actually mouths predictions about history, and how future events will support his backside, bankrupt blather.

a. "To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history,..." President Barack Obama's Inaugural Address


b."... the U.S. response to protests in Egypt that forced President Hosni Mubarak from power last Friday. Critics have faulted the U.S. for being too cautious in offering support to protesters in Cairo. The administration now appears to be placing itself on the side of those in the streets. "History will end up recording that at every juncture in the situation in Egypt, that we were on the right side of history," Obama said." Obama: U.S. Is 'On Right Side Of History' In Mideast [He said this gleefully anticipating the ascendancy of the Muslim Brotherhood.]

c. And, as Gaddafi was about to be pushed out....“I believe that Gaddafi ison the wrong side of history. I believe that the Libyan people are anxious for freedom and the removal of somebody who has suppressed them for decades now. We are going to be in contact with the opposition, ..."
Obama, Gaddafi, and the ‘wrong side of history’ [September 11, 2012, attack of a United States outpost inBenghazi, Libya, that left four Americans killed,....]

d. "Speaking more broadly about the then still young “Arab Spring” he said, “I think that the region will be watching carefully to make sure we’re on the right side of history.” When Vladimir Putin started carving up Ukraine, the president insisted that America wouldn’t actually do anything about it, but fear not -- because Putin is on the wrong side of history. The “long moral arc of the universe” -- another of Obama’s favorite phrases -- will “bend toward justice.”

In the meantime: Tough luck, Ukrainians."
file:///C:/Users/Angel/Downloads/goldberg-are_you_on_the_wrong_side_of_history-transcript.pdf



2. "It’s a phrase Obama loves: He’s used it 15 times, in debates; at synagogues; in weekly radio addresses; at fundraisers. Obama is almost as fond of its converse, “the wrong side of history,” which he has used 13 times; staffers and press secretaries have invoked it a further 16." The Wrong Side of 'the Right Side of History'


"....telling someone they are on “the wrong side of history” means “You’re going to lose eventually, so why don’t you give up now?” file:///C:/Users/Angel/Downloads/goldberg-are_you_on_the_wrong_side_of_history-transcript.pdf



Another dunce tried it in this form: "The debate is over!"

And, of course, it isn't.

 

[Freewill]

Obama is, ironically, on the wrong side of history.

 

[MisterBeale]

You do know that after he leaves that oval office, he will be the first President, as far as I know, in history, to remain living in the D.C. area.

So while Trump, (or god-forbid,) bitch is living in the White House, he'll be just down the Street.

Won't THAT be interesting?

 

[Grandma]

P.C. you can deny all you want, but he's going to rank fairly high among Presidents.

Deal with it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

P.C. you can deny all you want, but he's going to rank fairly high among Presidents.

Deal with it.

I believe you are correct.
Obama is the most inept and incompetent President since Buchanan....but, he may very well be judged 'fairly high (sic)".

Let me explain why that is the case.


The 'historians' will so claim.
"Historian."
A most desired honorific.
A distinguished individual....no doubt with "Doctor" before his name.

There are a number of members of this board who defend their views by pointing to some 'historians' for support...but, in truth, most called by that title are simply scribes who know which way the political winds are blowing.
Translation? Often, no more than flunkies for the party in power.



1. Case in point....Michael Beschloss.
"Michael Richard Beschloss[1](born November 30, 1955) isan American historian. A specialist in theUnited States presidency,he is the author of nine books. In November 2013, he was appointed as a contributing columnist on history forThe New York Times.[2]His regular "HistorySource" column appears in the "Upshot" section of the newspaper.[3]It is also published in the print SundayNew York Times."Michael Beschloss - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


2. This running dog, lackey of the Left, hopped on the Barack Obama bandwagon early on.....when the Liberal/Progressive/Democrats elites were slobbering over this no-accomplishment amateur ideologue, and...no joke....referring to Obama as the messiah, as God himself.


3.Beschloss....the 'historian'...and ' specialist in the United States presidency,'was being interviewed on the Don Imus Radio Show....and, in a sterling example of his expertise as an historian.....claimed that Obama was the smartest man ever to apply for the office of President.

Unfortunately for him....and unexpectedly....Imus questioned him....


"November 11, 2008
Historian Michael Beschloss was interviewed Monday on Don Imus’ radio show andhe made the claim that President-elect Obama’s IQ is off the charts and that he is the smartest president we have ever had.Here is the meat of the conversation:

Quote:

Historian Michael Beschloss:Yeah. Even aside from the fact of electing the first African American President and whatever one’s partisan views this is a guy whose IQ is off the charts — I mean you cannot say that he is anything but a very serious and capable leader and — you know — You and I have talked about this for years …

Imus:Well.What is his IQ?

Historian Michael Beschloss:… our system doesn’t allow those people to become President, those people meaning people THAT smart and THAT capable

Imus:What is his IQ?

Historian Michael Beschloss:Pardon?

Imus:What is his IQ?

Historian Michael Beschloss:Uh. I would say it’s probably - he’s probably the smartest guy ever to become President.

You can find the full audio on the show here.WTKK - Imus In The Morning, 96.9 WTKK, Boston*-*Imus in the Morning guest: Michael Beschloss 11/10/08
You have to fast forward to about 13 minutes in to get the good stuff. So I’m thinking thatI would like to know the historian’s IQ. I’m thinking that it’s somewhere around catatonic or idiot.Too much Kool-Aid.


How can someone claim that an IQ is off the charts when they don’t even know what that person’s IQ is and for that matter,where the hell are Obama’s school records period? Did he even have good grades? Did he have good grades when he was snorting cocaine? He’s hiding all his transcripts in his bid to be transparent,so we’ll never know.


And what is even more laughable - does this Beschloss guy even know the IQs of any of the presidents. You know that Reagan sure was an idiot. And how about that Jefferson guy, all he could do was write a Declaration of Independence. Washington sure was stupid, he was just a military genius. And Madison, don’t even get me started. Obama hasn’t done a damn thing yet and he is already a genius and I heard some poll today that has a 60%+ approval rating for him. Never mind that he only got 52% of the vote."
Obama Is Our Smartest President?


And we have all seen what an abject failure Obama is....judge 'historians' in that light.





Listen to the interview here:

 

[DGS49]

Nothing this President has done in office has given any indication whatsoever that he is any more intelligent than average lawyer, and his ideas on governance are either ignorant of the Constitution or disdainful.

Mediocrity, writ large.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

As the Bard noted:

“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

Shakespeare had your character type in mind when he wrote that!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Obama is, ironically, on the wrong side of history.

Wish I could be the optimist that you are, Freewill.....

Unless a less biased coterie gain control of the schools and the media, America will appear as the drunk who must move faster and faster to avoid falling down.

The clearest indication would be identifying states correctly as 'Red' for Liberal, socialist, communist, anarchist....as has always been the reality.
I don't see that happening, and, so, fear for our children and grandchildren.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nothing this President has done in office has given any indication whatsoever that he is any more intelligent than average lawyer, and his ideas on governance are either ignorant of the Constitution or disdainful.

Mediocrity, writ large.

Actually, D.....I believe you are giving Obama far too much credit.
Any native intelligence is blotted out by ideology.

By the end of this thread I will provide a string of undeniable gaffes, missteps, errors and catastrophes that Obama has foisted off as his efforts on the 'right side of history.'

And....just as the dozens I provided in this thread...Incredulity: Who Elected This President???....

...the Left will simply shrug and, as granny offered....say 'deal with it.'

 

[PoliticalChic]

3. "...people (mostly liberals) tend to say, “You’re on the wrong side of history” about social issues that are breaking their way. It’s a handy phrase, loosely translated as, “You’re going to lose eventually, so why don’t you give up now?”


4. "Philosophically, the expression is abhorrent because of its “Marxist twang” (to borrow historian Robert Conquest’s phrase). The idea that history moves in a predetermined, inexorable path amounts to a kind of Hallmark-card Hegelianism. Marx, who ripped off a lot of his shtick from the philosopher Hegel, popularized the idea that opposition to the inevitability of socialism was anti-intellectual and anti-scientific. The progression of history is scientifically knowable, quoth the Marxists, and so we need not listen to those who object to our program.

5. Later, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and others would use this reasoning to justify murdering millions of inconvenient people. It was a “God is on our side” argument, minus God."
The Empty Threat of Future Judgment

 

[Blackrook]

I didn't vote for the guy. On the first night he was elected, I kept starting new threads explaining what a horrible mistake Americans had just made, and the moderators kept removing my threads because pro-Obama sentiment was just that strong.

Eventually, after I wouldn't stop criticizing Obama, they banned me from that forum. And that's what happens at most political forums, if you're consistently conservative long enough, they ban you.

 

[Blackrook]

We were all on the wrong side of history, said the Communists, all the way until 1989, when Communism went into the dustbin.

 

[mudwhistle]

You do know that after he leaves that oval office, he will be the first President, as far as I know, in history, to remain living in the D.C. area.

So while Trump, (or god-forbid,) bitch is living in the White House, he'll be just down the Street.

Won't THAT be interesting?

I think no matter who wins, Obama is in for some rough times. Obama will have to take a blowtorch to all of the official records and shred everything to keep out of jail.

He tried to find dirt on Bush and couldn't. Now technology will be his undoing. Hillary will blackmail him or Trump will clean house and bring indictments. Either way, Obama is due a reckoning.

 

[PoliticalChic]

We were all on the wrong side of history, said the Communists, all the way until 1989, when Communism went into the dustbin.

"....until 1989, when Communism went into the dustbin."

If only.
It did no such thing....just look as the posts from Leftists on this board.



".....the left has been clever by using “very non-threatening words,” like liberal, progressive and concerned citizens, for advancing government control of American lives. The truth about Cuban politics is hard to find because of media spin and propaganda dominating American discourse.

For Blazquez, watching American youth embrace avowed socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders for president, strikes him as “absurd.” It is the end result, he says, of the cultural marxist education and media propaganda that has anesthetized too many Americans who do not defend the values that made America exceptional." Cuban-American Filmmaker Warns America Is Morphing Into Communist Country

 

[PoliticalChic]

You do know that after he leaves that oval office, he will be the first President, as far as I know, in history, to remain living in the D.C. area.

So while Trump, (or god-forbid,) bitch is living in the White House, he'll be just down the Street.

Won't THAT be interesting?

I think no matter who wins, Obama is in for some rough times. Obama will have to take a blowtorch to all of the official records and shred everything to keep out of jail.

He tried to find dirt on Bush and couldn't. Now technology will be his undoing. Hillary will blackmail him or Trump will clean house and bring indictments. Either way, Obama is due a reckoning.

You guys are far more hopeful than I.

As simpletons like granny, above, indicate.....they just don't care about the ineptitude, corruption, Leftism, and destruction of the America that the Founders gave us....


.... "Principle is nothing to liberals. Winning is everything."
Coulter

 

[Blackrook]

We still have to remember that border agent, murdered by a gun that Obama's ATF made sure got into the hands of drug lords in Mexico:

ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or the Ambassador of Libya, and three other Americans, who were murdered by terrorists who got their weapons from the Obama administration:

Benghazi Witness: U.S. Provided Arms to Jihadists

And then there's the four American citizens Obama has killed with drone strikes:

The U.S. keeps killing Americans in drone strikes, mostly by accident

 

[mudwhistle]

You do know that after he leaves that oval office, he will be the first President, as far as I know, in history, to remain living in the D.C. area.

So while Trump, (or god-forbid,) bitch is living in the White House, he'll be just down the Street.

Won't THAT be interesting?

I think no matter who wins, Obama is in for some rough times. Obama will have to take a blowtorch to all of the official records and shred everything to keep out of jail.

He tried to find dirt on Bush and couldn't. Now technology will be his undoing. Hillary will blackmail him or Trump will clean house and bring indictments. Either way, Obama is due a reckoning.

You guys are far more hopeful than I.

As simpletons like granny, above, indicate.....they just don't care about the ineptitude, corruption, Leftism, and destruction of the America that the Founders gave us....


.... "Principle is nothing to liberals. Winning is everything."
Coulter

I know Hillary will try to get even if she wins. Somebody is going to pay for dragging her though the ringer. She will get even with Obama. Trust me.
Trump will make an effort to discover the truth about the last 16 years. Whatever he does, he won't be announcing it to the media.

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. "The notion that History is moving in an inevitable direction is ancient, but in modern times its main champion was Karl Marx. Marx argued that socialism was inevitable according to some scientific principle. Therefore any objection to its unstoppable triumph was not only morally wrong but anti-intellectual and even unscientific.


This is what the great historian of Communism, Robert Conquest, meant when he said that the phrase “the wrong side of history” has a “Marxist twang” to it. It was the atheist’s answer to the religious notion that “God is on our side,” and it led to millions dying as socialists desperately tried to steam roll the future with the Wheel of History.


.... The future is a blank page and we don’t know what will be written on it. But one thing is certain: when people come to believe that they are not masters of their own fate -- because history is not on their side -- they will be less likely to take their fate into their own hands." file:///C:/Users/Angel/Downloads/goldberg-are_you_on_the_wrong_side_of_history-transcript.pdf




Quite the coincidence, Obama favoring a phrase that "the great historian of Communism, Robert Conquest, meant when he said that the phrase “the wrong side of history” has a “Marxist twang” to it."

As I have pointed out before, the differences between Liberalism and Marxism is little more than window dressing....and the extent to which each is allowed to go to snuff out opposition.....

 

[Weatherman2020]

As the Bard noted:

“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”



1. So.....by the same token, one who not only lacks any understanding of history, and botches it when he tries to insert himself therein, can pretend he in an influence in same.

... this dunce, Obama, who has seen his policies and ideas fail literally dozens of times....and I mean 'literally' literally....actually mouths predictions about history, and how future events will support his backside, bankrupt blather.

a. "To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history,..." President Barack Obama's Inaugural Address


b."... the U.S. response to protests in Egypt that forced President Hosni Mubarak from power last Friday. Critics have faulted the U.S. for being too cautious in offering support to protesters in Cairo. The administration now appears to be placing itself on the side of those in the streets. "History will end up recording that at every juncture in the situation in Egypt, that we were on the right side of history," Obama said." Obama: U.S. Is 'On Right Side Of History' In Mideast [He said this gleefully anticipating the ascendancy of the Muslim Brotherhood.]

c. And, as Gaddafi was about to be pushed out....“I believe that Gaddafi ison the wrong side of history. I believe that the Libyan people are anxious for freedom and the removal of somebody who has suppressed them for decades now. We are going to be in contact with the opposition, ..."
Obama, Gaddafi, and the ‘wrong side of history’ [September 11, 2012, attack of a United States outpost inBenghazi, Libya, that left four Americans killed,....]

d. "Speaking more broadly about the then still young “Arab Spring” he said, “I think that the region will be watching carefully to make sure we’re on the right side of history.” When Vladimir Putin started carving up Ukraine, the president insisted that America wouldn’t actually do anything about it, but fear not -- because Putin is on the wrong side of history. The “long moral arc of the universe” -- another of Obama’s favorite phrases -- will “bend toward justice.”

In the meantime: Tough luck, Ukrainians."
file:///C:/Users/Angel/Downloads/goldberg-are_you_on_the_wrong_side_of_history-transcript.pdf



2. "It’s a phrase Obama loves: He’s used it 15 times, in debates; at synagogues; in weekly radio addresses; at fundraisers. Obama is almost as fond of its converse, “the wrong side of history,” which he has used 13 times; staffers and press secretaries have invoked it a further 16." The Wrong Side of 'the Right Side of History'


"....telling someone they are on “the wrong side of history” means “You’re going to lose eventually, so why don’t you give up now?” file:///C:/Users/Angel/Downloads/goldberg-are_you_on_the_wrong_side_of_history-transcript.pdf



Another dunce tried it in this form: "The debate is over!"

And, of course, it isn't.

History has no sides, there is only good and evil.
Obama and his minions have sided with evil.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Obama is, ironically, on the wrong side of history.

He is the wrong side of history.