Nukes found in libya

[Conservative]

Color me doubtful that this is true

I don't doubt Libya has the materials for at least a dirty bomb. But that's a far cry from having a working nuke, or nukes.

 

[rdean]

Obama was keeping people in Libya from being slaughtered. That was all he did.

Bush and the Republicans brought al Qaeda into Iraq and turned over the rest of Iraq to Iran. It couldn't have gone better if they all planned it out together beforehand. It's Obama that's stuck with the mess. Oh there ******* Republicans. The damage they cause is unbelievable. Then the lies afterwards. How low will they stoop?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Obama was keeping people in Libya from being slaughtered. That was all he did.

Bush and the Republicans brought al Qaeda into Iraq and turned over the rest of Iraq to Iran. It couldn't have gone better if they all planned it out together beforehand. It's Obama that's stuck with the mess. Oh there ******* Republicans. The damage they cause is unbelievable. Then the lies afterwards. How low will they stoop?

When was the last time Qudffe massed killed his people? Bush was keeping Iraqis from being slaughtered did you object then?

 

[zzzz]

This is from the Jerusalem Post yesterday!!!

The outgoing premier of Libya's NTC, Mahmoud Jibril said Sunday that nuclear weapons were found in the country, according to the Al Arabiya TV network, Israel Radio reported. Jibril also said that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) will provide further details on the weapons found in the next few days, according to the report.

Report: Libya's NTC chief says nuclear weapo... JPost - Headlines

 

[Conservative]

This is from the Jeruslum Post yesterday!!!

The outgoing premier of Libya's NTC, Mahmoud Jibril said Sunday that nuclear weapons were found in the country, according to the Al Arabiya TV network, Israel Radio reported. Jibril also said that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) will provide further details on the weapons found in the next few days, according to the report.

Report: Libya's NTC chief says nuclear weapo... JPost - Headlines

The Jerusalem Post piece is three lines, and is a report or a report from a questionable Arab press site. No corroboration that Libya has actual working nukes has been produced in this thread. When it is, I'll worry.

 

[rdean]

Obama was keeping people in Libya from being slaughtered. That was all he did.

Bush and the Republicans brought al Qaeda into Iraq and turned over the rest of Iraq to Iran. It couldn't have gone better if they all planned it out together beforehand. It's Obama that's stuck with the mess. Oh there ******* Republicans. The damage they cause is unbelievable. Then the lies afterwards. How low will they stoop?

When was the last time Qudffe massed killed his people? Bush was keeping Iraqis from being slaughtered did you object then?

Yea sure. Ask the more than a million Christians living in Iraq. Oh wait, you can't. Most have been either slaughtered or chased off of land they lived on since BEFORE Muslims moved into Iraq. Thanks Bush. Thanks GOP. If that was your plan, it worked. Bush refused to help the Christians because he didn't want to show "favoritism". Isn't that hilarious? You should be throwing hi fives up and down main street. You guys did so much. So ******* much.

 

[zzzz]

This is from the Jeruslum Post yesterday!!!

The outgoing premier of Libya's NTC, Mahmoud Jibril said Sunday that nuclear weapons were found in the country, according to the Al Arabiya TV network, Israel Radio reported. Jibril also said that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) will provide further details on the weapons found in the next few days, according to the report.

Report: Libya's NTC chief says nuclear weapo... JPost - Headlines

The Jerusalem Post piece is three lines, and is a report or a report from a questionable Arab press site. No corroboration that Libya has actual working nukes has been produced in this thread. When it is, I'll worry.

And as I said earlier a lot of conjectures are being made on this slim statement. When and if the IAEA makes a statement then we can start pointing fingers and all that.

 

[eots]

It's ok, just leave them there. Ron Paul says it's no problem.

and he is correct..any inter ballistic missiles found ?

 

[zzzz]

I think that he may have been referring to material and dirty bombs which are not that difficult to make since they do have some material, not highly enriched material for A bombs but enough for dirty bombs.

Ex-IAEA official warns of Libya 'dirty bomb' material

A research center near Tripoli stocks uranium and other material that could be used to make a nuclear "dirty bomb" and Libya's rebels will need to secure it, a former senior UN inspector said today.
Seeking to mend ties with the West, Libya's Muammar Gaddafi agreed in 2003 to abandon efforts to acquire nuclear, chemical and biological weapons - a move that brought him in from the cold and helped end decades of isolation.
Olli Heinonen, head of nuclear safeguards inspections worldwide for the UN atomic watchdog until mid-2010 and now at Harvard University, said Libya's uranium enrichment program was subsequently taken apart.
Sensitive material and documentation ranging from nuclear weapons design information to centrifuge components were also confiscated, Heinonen said in an online commentary.
Libya's highly-enriched uranium, which was used to fuel the Tajoura research reactor on Tripoli's outskirts, took longer to remove but the last consignment of spent fuel was flown out of Libya in late 2009.
But "nuclear security concerns still linger," said Heinonen, a former deputy director general of the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
Tajoura continues to stock large quantities of radioisotopes, radioactive waste and low-enriched uranium fuel after three decades of nuclear research and radioisotope production, he said.
"While we can be thankful that the highly enriched uranium stocks are no longer in Libya, the remaining material in Tajoura could, if it ended up in the wrong hands, be used as ingredients for dirty bombs. The situation at Tajoura today is unclear."

Ex-IAEA official warns of Libya 'dirty bomb' material - BuenosAiresHerald.com

 

[rdean]

Gee, I wonder if Right Wingers will come back with that story about Obama taking a trip that cost 200 million dollars a day?

I read that Libya got their technology from Iran. Hmm, Iran. Yea. They have been trying to build bombs for over a decade. You need fissionable material that's nearly 100% pure. So far, after years, Iran's is about 20% pure. Good enough for a hospital chest X-Ray. And the Obama Administration set Iran's program back years by hacking into their computers, and changing their programs so their centrifuges operated wildly crazy while reporting everything is just "fine". That's how smart people do things.

Iran is the kind of theocracy right wingers want for this country. Only American Christian instead of ME Muslim.

I don't think we have much to worry about from Iran. Science and Religion don't mix. We learned that lesson here.

So if Libya received Iranian "hand me downs", I suspect more Libyans have already died from mishandling dangerous material than others ever would have.

 

[Conservative]

I think that he may have been referring to material and dirty bombs which are not that difficult to make since they do have some material, not highly enriched material for A bombs but enough for dirty bombs.

Ex-IAEA official warns of Libya 'dirty bomb' material

A research center near Tripoli stocks uranium and other material that could be used to make a nuclear "dirty bomb" and Libya's rebels will need to secure it, a former senior UN inspector said today.
Seeking to mend ties with the West, Libya's Muammar Gaddafi agreed in 2003 to abandon efforts to acquire nuclear, chemical and biological weapons - a move that brought him in from the cold and helped end decades of isolation.
Olli Heinonen, head of nuclear safeguards inspections worldwide for the UN atomic watchdog until mid-2010 and now at Harvard University, said Libya's uranium enrichment program was subsequently taken apart.
Sensitive material and documentation ranging from nuclear weapons design information to centrifuge components were also confiscated, Heinonen said in an online commentary.
Libya's highly-enriched uranium, which was used to fuel the Tajoura research reactor on Tripoli's outskirts, took longer to remove but the last consignment of spent fuel was flown out of Libya in late 2009.
But "nuclear security concerns still linger," said Heinonen, a former deputy director general of the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
Tajoura continues to stock large quantities of radioisotopes, radioactive waste and low-enriched uranium fuel after three decades of nuclear research and radioisotope production, he said.
"While we can be thankful that the highly enriched uranium stocks are no longer in Libya, the remaining material in Tajoura could, if it ended up in the wrong hands, be used as ingredients for dirty bombs. The situation at Tajoura today is unclear."

Ex-IAEA official warns of Libya 'dirty bomb' material - BuenosAiresHerald.com

Here's the key phrase in your post above...

could be used to make a nuclear "dirty bomb"

No actual proof or existing, ready to use bombs, has been presented as yet.

It is certainly possible said bombs exist, but saying they do, is different than proving they do.

 

[Photonic]

******* fear-mongers.

 

[zzzz]

Gee, I wonder if Right Wingers will come back with that story about Obama taking a trip that cost 200 million dollars a day?

I read that Libya got their technology from Iran. Hmm, Iran. Yea. They have been trying to build bombs for over a decade. You need fissionable material that's nearly 100% pure. So far, after years, Iran's is about 20% pure. Good enough for a hospital chest X-Ray. And the Obama Administration set Iran's program back years by hacking into their computers, and changing their programs so their centrifuges operated wildly crazy while reporting everything is just "fine". That's how smart people do things.

Iran is the kind of theocracy right wingers want for this country. Only American Christian instead of ME Muslim.

I don't think we have much to worry about from Iran. Science and Religion don't mix. We learned that lesson here.

So if Libya received Iranian "hand me downs", I suspect more Libyans have already died from mishandling dangerous material than others ever would have.

Hiroshima - approximately 80% enriched uranium

 

[L.K.Eder]

"We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."

 

[rdean]

I think that he may have been referring to material and dirty bombs which are not that difficult to make since they do have some material, not highly enriched material for A bombs but enough for dirty bombs.

Ex-IAEA official warns of Libya 'dirty bomb' material

A research center near Tripoli stocks uranium and other material that could be used to make a nuclear "dirty bomb" and Libya's rebels will need to secure it, a former senior UN inspector said today.
Seeking to mend ties with the West, Libya's Muammar Gaddafi agreed in 2003 to abandon efforts to acquire nuclear, chemical and biological weapons - a move that brought him in from the cold and helped end decades of isolation.
Olli Heinonen, head of nuclear safeguards inspections worldwide for the UN atomic watchdog until mid-2010 and now at Harvard University, said Libya's uranium enrichment program was subsequently taken apart.
Sensitive material and documentation ranging from nuclear weapons design information to centrifuge components were also confiscated, Heinonen said in an online commentary.
Libya's highly-enriched uranium, which was used to fuel the Tajoura research reactor on Tripoli's outskirts, took longer to remove but the last consignment of spent fuel was flown out of Libya in late 2009.
But "nuclear security concerns still linger," said Heinonen, a former deputy director general of the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
Tajoura continues to stock large quantities of radioisotopes, radioactive waste and low-enriched uranium fuel after three decades of nuclear research and radioisotope production, he said.
"While we can be thankful that the highly enriched uranium stocks are no longer in Libya, the remaining material in Tajoura could, if it ended up in the wrong hands, be used as ingredients for dirty bombs. The situation at Tajoura today is unclear."

Ex-IAEA official warns of Libya 'dirty bomb' material - BuenosAiresHerald.com

Here's the key phrase in your post above...

could be used to make a nuclear "dirty bomb"

No actual proof or existing, ready to use bombs, has been presented as yet.

It is certainly possible said bombs exist, but saying they do, is different than proving they do.

Like I said, "So if Libya received Iranian "hand me downs", I suspect more Libyans have already died from mishandling dangerous material than others ever would have."

Can you imagine those people handling nuclear material?

"Oh, Achmed, my skin is peeling"

"Oh, that's OK, put some salve on it made from date leaves and fermented camel bile. It goes away in a week or so. The glowing in the dark doesn't."

 

[rdean]

Gee, I wonder if Right Wingers will come back with that story about Obama taking a trip that cost 200 million dollars a day?

I read that Libya got their technology from Iran. Hmm, Iran. Yea. They have been trying to build bombs for over a decade. You need fissionable material that's nearly 100% pure. So far, after years, Iran's is about 20% pure. Good enough for a hospital chest X-Ray. And the Obama Administration set Iran's program back years by hacking into their computers, and changing their programs so their centrifuges operated wildly crazy while reporting everything is just "fine". That's how smart people do things.

Iran is the kind of theocracy right wingers want for this country. Only American Christian instead of ME Muslim.

I don't think we have much to worry about from Iran. Science and Religion don't mix. We learned that lesson here.

So if Libya received Iranian "hand me downs", I suspect more Libyans have already died from mishandling dangerous material than others ever would have.

Hiroshima - approximately 80% enriched uranium

Weapons-grade uranium, or isotope U-235, is a highly unstable form that makes up less than 1 percent (.7 percent) of the concentration of uranium ore that is dug up. The Federation of American Scientists estimates that uranium needs to be refined to a concentration of at least 80 percent U-235 to be weapons grade, though upwards of 90 percent is preferable.

Why It's So Hard to Make Nuclear Weapons | LiveScience

Yea, so? The weapons used in Japan were so big and so heavy, they were left unable to detonate until they were in the air and almost over Japan because the plane barely made it off the ground. And this is a huge bomber normally carrying lots and lots of bombs.

Uranium is twice as heavy as lead.

 

[pgm]

Of course Libya has the materials to make a radiation bomb. Did you guys see Back to the Future?

In all seriousness, I want to see what the official announcement is to the IAEA. There are certainly many good elements in the transitional council and they seem to be more in charge than anyone else at the moment.

Does anyone know what Gadhafi's arrangement was with Bush? I know Gadhafi gave up his chemical weapons and stored them in a warehouse, but were they inspected?

 

[Conservative]

This is from the Jeruslum Post yesterday!!!

Report: Libya's NTC chief says nuclear weapo... JPost - Headlines

The Jerusalem Post piece is three lines, and is a report or a report from a questionable Arab press site. No corroboration that Libya has actual working nukes has been produced in this thread. When it is, I'll worry.

And as I said earlier a lot of conjectures are being made on this slim statement. When and if the IAEA makes a statement then we can start pointing fingers and all that.

yup.

 

[Dr.Drock]

It's ok, just leave them there. Ron Paul says it's no problem.

Better yet......Obama says lets "lead from the back" and just let the Muslims sort it out! Yay!

Yes, more brilliant foreign policy...

It isn't a problem, are you worried the U.S. military wouldn't be able to intercept a missile fired from Libya or intercept a jet carrying such a weapon before it launched it at us?


If you do think that's a possibility, it's sad that you have such a low opinion of our military.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Chem weapons, bigreb, chem weapons.

I wish you people would read.