Nuclear Fusion Breakthrough Confirmed: California Team Achieved Ignition

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Nope....
Hydrogen bombs, neutron bombs, "tac nukes" been around a long time. A lot of the MERV technology missiles use fusion bombs...for when you want to destroy a whole nation but claim its resources.

Fission is what we dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But we have tested all sorts of different fusion reactions over the years until treaties prevented it. But fission has a huge amount of lingering radiation. Fusion has a huge burst of radiation (which sterilizes all organic life) but then it's over and radiation levels go back to normal except for a small area at the epicenter.

Fission is a lot cooler than fusion reactions. Fission is containable....fusion has demonstrated a capability of burning everything it gets near. Not all fusion reactions are completely containable either.
They were working on liquid helium cooled reactors for plutonium fission reactions....but it still gets too hot and the cores have to be replaced too often to be economically viable. The pressures in the cores were also insane.

Nuclear power plants are not a good idea. I get the attraction of supposedly "clean power". But the two main detractors are the brown site they leave behind and that they are great targets for our enemies.

I'm not exactly a coal fan either. Mercury poisoning of our waterways is not exactly a positive. They have developed better scrubbers for the exhaust but implementing them is expensive.
Clean coal tech is something worth exploring. It's been abandoned and forgotten. But it's actually a renewable resource. We can utilize the mountains of unusable Yellow coal we currently have and make more from any organic material available. Very small brown site footprint for the processes. And it would assist in forest management keeping the forest fires at bay. Lots of percs for clean coal technology.

Another of your errors:

Fusion REACTORS are NOT bombs and can NEVER be. They violate NO treaty It is physically impossible for a fusion reactor to explode.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

A lot of the MERV technology missiles use fusion bombs...for when you want to destroy a whole nation but claim its resources

Another error.

Only a neutron bomb does this.

And again, fusion REACTORS are NOT the same AT ALL, as fusion BOMBS

You're trying to "debate" someone who actually knows his shit. Hang it up

 

[JohnDB]

Another error.

Only a neutron bomb does this.

And again, fusion REACTORS are NOT the same AT ALL, as fusion BOMBS

You're trying to "debate" someone who actually knows his shit. Hang it up

If only you actually had any knowledge this would be a battle of wits...as it is you do need to arm yourself.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

If only you actually had any knowledge this would be a battle of wits...as it is you do need to arm yourself.

Cold fusion does not occur
Fusion bombs have existed since 1950s
Fusion REACTORS cannot blow up
Fusion REACTORS violate no treaty

These statements address most 9f your errors.

Go read a grade school science book

 

[JohnDB]

Cold fusion does not occur
Fusion bombs have existed since 1950s
Fusion REACTORS cannot blow up
Fusion REACTORS violate no treaty

These statements address most 9f your errors.

Go read a grade school science book

Ok....
So how long did this fusion reaction last that they performed in California?

Yeah....
Next idiot who wants a challenge?

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Ok....
So how long did this fusion reaction last that they performed in California?

Yeah....
Next idiot who wants a challenge?

Good Allah you're a first class moron.

Did you even read the article? Can you actually read?

Here is the answer to the question you axed:

In this latest milestone at the LLNL, researchers recorded an energy yield of more than 1.3 megajoules (MJ) during only a few nanoseconds

A NANO SECOND is a BILLIONTH OF A SECOND.

Like I said, they've never been able to achieve a sustained fusion reaction in a fusion REACTOR.

 

[JohnDB]

Good Allah you're a first class moron.

Did you even read the article? Can you actually read?

Here is the answer to the question you axed:

In this latest milestone at the LLNL, researchers recorded an energy yield of more than 1.3 megajoules (MJ) during only a few nanoseconds

A NANO SECOND is a BILLIONTH OF A SECOND.

Like I said, they've never been able to achieve a sustained fusion reaction in a fusion REACTOR.

And you call that a sustained reaction?

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

And you call that a sustained reaction?

You really CANT read, can you. You're making a fool of yourself with every attempt to dig yourself out of that hole.

And I'm tired of your idiocy. Off to ignore you go. You're just too stupid to "debate"

 

[JohnDB]

You really CANT read, can you. You're making a fool of yourself with every attempt to dig yourself out of that hole.

And I'm tired of your idiocy. Off to ignore you go. You're just too stupid to "debate"

Thank you for the relief.

 

[Captain Caveman]

This article is so misleading that it's ridiculous.
It also violates our nuclear treaties with other nations like Russia and China and most of NATO.

The ITER facility in southern France is supported by a consortium of world governments, including from EU member states, the US, China and Russia.

 

[Captain Caveman]

And you call that a sustained reaction?

They've actually sustained fusion for 5 seconds.

The first wheel was made of stone.

 

[JohnDB]

They've actually sustained fusion for 5 seconds.

The first wheel was made of stone.

That was nanoseconds....

They claim it was sustained but I can't even blink that fast.

 

[Captain Caveman]

That was nanoseconds....

They claim it was sustained but I can't even blink that fast.

European scientists say they have made a major breakthrough in their quest to develop practical nuclear fusion - the energy process that powers the stars.

The UK-based JET laboratory has smashed its own world record for the amount of energy it can extract by squeezing together two forms of hydrogen.

If nuclear fusion can be successfully recreated on Earth it holds out the potential of virtually unlimited supplies of low-carbon, low-radiation energy.

The experiments produced 59 megajoules of energy over five seconds (11 megawatts of power).......


..."The JET experiments put us a step closer to fusion power," said Dr Joe Milnes, the head of operations at the reactor lab. "We've demonstrated that we can create a mini star inside of our machine and hold it there for five seconds and get high performance, which really takes us into a new realm."

Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy

A lab in Oxfordshire takes a big step towards harnessing the energy source of the stars.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Dayton3]

This article is so misleading that it's ridiculous.
It also violates our nuclear treaties with other nations like Russia and China and most of NATO.

Nuclear fusion is your average, run of the mill, tactical nuke.

Now these guys making all the noise have just broken the treaty. But if they are working through a loophole in the treaty....it still is a nothing burger.

Nuclear fusion AKA a hydrogen bomb produces too much heat to be effectively controlled and contained.

Cold fusion is exciting....normal hydrogen fusion is not.

Currently for a plant utilizing regular hydrogen fusion with tons of water that only the Mississippi River could produce....it would need walls of concrete, steel, and lead thicker than the Hoover Dam...and would last 6 months before containment breach would occur....meaning that the whole facility would need to be rebuilt.
Getting the picture yet? Talk about a brown site....

So when this technology is actually viable (and they have been looking for it for the past 50 years)

What "treaties" are you referring to?

There are no longer any nuclear weapons treaties in effect involving the United States except for the Nonproliferation Agreement and the Partial Test Ban. Neither of which are even remotely applicable here.

 

[Circe]

A major breakthrough in nuclear fusion has been confirmed a year after it was achieved at a laboratory in California.

Researchers at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory's (LLNL's) National Ignition Facility (NIF) recorded the first case of ignition on August 8, 2021, the results of which have now been published in three peer-reviewed papers.

Nuclear fusion is the process that powers the Sun and other stars: heavy hydrogen atoms collide with enough force that they fuse together to form a helium atom, releasing large amounts of energy as a by-product. Once the hydrogen plasma "ignites", the fusion reaction becomes self-sustaining, with the fusions themselves producing enough power to maintain the temperature without external heating.

Ignition during a fusion reaction essentially means that the reaction itself produced enough energy to be self-sustaining, which would be necessary in the use of fusion to generate electricity.

If we could harness this reaction to generate electricity, it would be one of the most efficient and least polluting sources of energy possible. No fossil fuels would be required as the only fuel would be hydrogen, and the only by-product would be helium, which we use in industry and are actually in short supply of.

The problem with fusion energy at the moment is that we do not have the technical capabilities to harness this power. Scientists from across the world are currently working to solve these issues.

In this latest milestone at the LLNL, researchers recorded an energy yield of more than 1.3 megajoules (MJ) during only a few nanoseconds. For reference, one MJ is the kinetic energy of a one tonne mass moving at 100mph.

Nuclear Fusion Breakthrough Confirmed: California Team Achieved Ignition

OK that explains a few things.....What I can't figure out is if they have opened another timeline and the crazies escaped or have opened the Upside Down.

Darn them, they opened a dimension into the Multiverse -- AGAIN -- People keep DOING this!! and that's where all these crazies come from, BLMs and antifas and trannies --- the monsters roaming our streets.

I'm so impressed they've achieved nuclear fusion!!

No, I'm not. This is where I came in. They said this in the '70s. Let them do something useful with it, then we'll see.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

European scientists say they have made a major breakthrough in their quest to develop practical nuclear fusion - the energy process that powers the stars.

The UK-based JET laboratory has smashed its own world record for the amount of energy it can extract by squeezing together two forms of hydrogen.

If nuclear fusion can be successfully recreated on Earth it holds out the potential of virtually unlimited supplies of low-carbon, low-radiation energy.

The experiments produced 59 megajoules of energy over five seconds (11 megawatts of power).......


..."The JET experiments put us a step closer to fusion power," said Dr Joe Milnes, the head of operations at the reactor lab. "We've demonstrated that we can create a mini star inside of our machine and hold it there for five seconds and get high performance, which really takes us into a new realm."

Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy

A lab in Oxfordshire takes a big step towards harnessing the energy source of the stars.

www.bbc.co.uk

Thats GREAT, but you're talking about 2 different stories.

5 full seconds, if true, is MAJOR though

 

[toobfreak]

None of this is NEW.

They've achieved fusion for decades. The problem is, they can't CONTAIN it long enough for a sustained reaction.

THANK YOU. Someone finally gets it right. THe problemm with fusion isn't the ignition, it is being able to SUSTAIN it by an ongoing outpouring of energy greater than what it took to get it started.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

THANK YOU. Someone finally gets it right. THe problemm with fusion isn't the ignition, it is being able to SUSTAIN it by an ongoing outpouring of energy greater than that it took to get it started.

Yep. Trying to CONTAIN 100 million degree plasma in a magnetic "bottle" for more than milliseconds has eluded scientists for decades.

Many are now trying different approaches, such as MICRO nuclear explosions using powerful lasers.

Who knows what approach will finally succeed.

 

[Circe]

Unless they can warp space with it and travel faster than light, I so don't care.

Of course, maybe that's what it will be good for ----

 

[Dayton3]

Unless they can warp space with it and travel faster than light, I so don't care.

Of course, maybe that's what it will be good for ----

fusion does not power the war drive of the Enterprise.

Matter/Antimatter annihilation does. Which is an order of magnitude (or more) more powerful than mere fusion power.