Now that Ailes, Putin, and Trump have broken the U.S., can it be fixed?

[lennypartiv]

America needs to be changed so we can talk to each other again in agreement that the sky is blue.

Trump is trying to save America. We've gone down hill since liberals Democrats gave everybody the right to vote.
There is no room for negotiations with the enemy when we're trying to save America.

 

[BluesLegend]

I love these liberal TDS threads. This one is especially butthurt, posts a manifesto. The U.S. is broken?

Isn't that what Trump's saying with MAGA?

MAGA is now KAGA (Keep America Great Again).
Loser.

America needs to be changed so we can talk to each other again in agreement that the sky is blue.

Then quit trying to sell the crap drama.

No! Rot in hell Dem's. There I negotiated with Dems, kept it short and to the point.

 

[berg80]

I love these liberal TDS threads. This one is especially butthurt, posts a manifesto. The U.S. is broken?

Isn't that what Trump's saying with MAGA?

MAGA is now KAGA (Keep America Great Again).
Loser.

America needs to be changed so we can talk to each other again in agreement that the sky is blue.

Then quit trying to sell the crap drama.

The problem of around 40% of the population having their heads full of bullshit, put there by Faux, Putin, and Trump can not be over stated.

 

[BluesLegend]

I love these liberal TDS threads. This one is especially butthurt, posts a manifesto. The U.S. is broken?

Isn't that what Trump's saying with MAGA?

No

Then what? You're honestly not making much sense.

We will do your thinking for you. Just relax everything will be fine.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Former Trump aides say Vladimir Putin convinced the president that Ukraine tried to sabotage his 2016 victory - contradicting US spy agencies who say it was Moscow that meddled in the election
Former Trump aides say Vladimir Putin convinced president Ukraine tried to sabotage his 2016 victory | Daily Mail Online

"President Trump was convinced by Russia’s Vladimir Putin that Ukraine tried to stop his election in 2016 even though his own intelligence agencies told him there was no evidence to support the claim, according to a new report.

The Russian leader reportedly persuaded Trump that it was Ukraine which meddled in the election during a July 2017 meeting in Hamburg, Germany.

One former senior White House official told The Washington Post that Trump repeated to aides that he knew Ukraine was guilty because ‘Putin told me.’"
.............................................................................................................................................................
Stephanie Grisham spent more than 5 months appearing exclusively in pro-Trump media -- until impeachment
Stephanie Grisham spent more than 5 months appearing exclusively in pro-Trump media -- until impeachment

"Since starting her job on July 1, White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham has given zero briefings and amassed a five-month-plus streak of appearing exclusively in pro-Trump media outlets like Fox News. It wasn’t until the House of Representatives voted to impeach President Donald Trump on December 18 that Grisham finally gave on-camera interviews to any mainstream media outlets."
.....................................................................................................................................................
Russian Disinformation Distorted Reality in Ukraine. Americans Should Take Note.
Russian Disinformation Distorted Reality in Ukraine. Americans Should Take Note.

"As the 2020 U.S. presidential election approaches, pundits in the United States are naturally looking back to 2016 in an effort to predict just what form Russian interference will take this time around—especially after former special counsel Robert Mueller’s testimony on Capitol Hill last month, during which he warned, “They’re doing it as we sit here.” To understand the threat, Americans would do well to look at previous Russian disinformation campaigns. To gain a fuller picture of just what Russian interference could look like in 2020, it is necessary to look back at the Kremlin’s hybrid war in UkraineTo gain a fuller picture of just what Russian interference could look like in 2020, it is necessary to look back at the Kremlin’s hybrid war in Ukraine from 2014 to 2016."
.....................................................................................................................................
The only thing Americans seem to agree on these days is they disagree about virtually everything political. I'm not to saying the origin for this disagreement doesn't go back years, it does. The radicalization of the GOP can be traced to the rise of conservative talk radio in the 80's, a consequence of Reagan's repeal of the Fairness Doctrine.
Reagan's Veto Kills Fairness Doctrine Bill
Since that time news media in all forms has become more polarized, reflecting the personal politics of the populace.

So, here we are. Science is rejected, facts are claimed to be subjective, inveterate liars have credibility, and unflattering news coverage is dismissed as fake.

The salient question is...............can this circumstance be fixed? Can we return to a time when we can rationally discuss the solutions to our problems without getting bogged down in arguments about the nature of those problems.

I am not optimistic.

First, we have 11 years left

Second, Obama gave Putin Crimea

Third, once most of the Coup Plotters, Planners and Financiers are tried for treason we'll be in a whole different place

 

[B. Kidd]

Putin’s propaganda portrayed Ukraine as a fascist state filled with anti-Semites. Despite Ukrainians’ election of a Jewish president, the image has stuck.

Putin's propaganda has also lead Trump to be impeached due to his pursuit of the batshyte crazy conspiracy theory Vlad stuck in Trump's head.

Putin's goal is to sow discord in the US and to diminish our leadership in the world. HE IS WINNING.

Only as long as Democrats keep doing his bidding!

 

[Dana7360]

Former Trump aides say Vladimir Putin convinced the president that Ukraine tried to sabotage his 2016 victory - contradicting US spy agencies who say it was Moscow that meddled in the election
Former Trump aides say Vladimir Putin convinced president Ukraine tried to sabotage his 2016 victory | Daily Mail Online

"President Trump was convinced by Russia’s Vladimir Putin that Ukraine tried to stop his election in 2016 even though his own intelligence agencies told him there was no evidence to support the claim, according to a new report.

The Russian leader reportedly persuaded Trump that it was Ukraine which meddled in the election during a July 2017 meeting in Hamburg, Germany.

One former senior White House official told The Washington Post that Trump repeated to aides that he knew Ukraine was guilty because ‘Putin told me.’"
.............................................................................................................................................................
Stephanie Grisham spent more than 5 months appearing exclusively in pro-Trump media -- until impeachment
Stephanie Grisham spent more than 5 months appearing exclusively in pro-Trump media -- until impeachment

"Since starting her job on July 1, White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham has given zero briefings and amassed a five-month-plus streak of appearing exclusively in pro-Trump media outlets like Fox News. It wasn’t until the House of Representatives voted to impeach President Donald Trump on December 18 that Grisham finally gave on-camera interviews to any mainstream media outlets."
.....................................................................................................................................................
Russian Disinformation Distorted Reality in Ukraine. Americans Should Take Note.
Russian Disinformation Distorted Reality in Ukraine. Americans Should Take Note.

"As the 2020 U.S. presidential election approaches, pundits in the United States are naturally looking back to 2016 in an effort to predict just what form Russian interference will take this time around—especially after former special counsel Robert Mueller’s testimony on Capitol Hill last month, during which he warned, “They’re doing it as we sit here.” To understand the threat, Americans would do well to look at previous Russian disinformation campaigns. To gain a fuller picture of just what Russian interference could look like in 2020, it is necessary to look back at the Kremlin’s hybrid war in UkraineTo gain a fuller picture of just what Russian interference could look like in 2020, it is necessary to look back at the Kremlin’s hybrid war in Ukraine from 2014 to 2016."
.....................................................................................................................................
The only thing Americans seem to agree on these days is they disagree about virtually everything political. I'm not to saying the origin for this disagreement doesn't go back years, it does. The radicalization of the GOP can be traced to the rise of conservative talk radio in the 80's, a consequence of Reagan's repeal of the Fairness Doctrine.
Reagan's Veto Kills Fairness Doctrine Bill
Since that time news media in all forms has become more polarized, reflecting the personal politics of the populace.

So, here we are. Science is rejected, facts are claimed to be subjective, inveterate liars have credibility, and unflattering news coverage is dismissed as fake.

The salient question is...............can this circumstance be fixed? Can we return to a time when we can rationally discuss the solutions to our problems without getting bogged down in arguments about the nature of those problems.

I am not optimistic.

trump must be extremely stupid.

If Ukraine wanted Clinton to win then why did they hack the DNC and John Podesta's emails then release them to Wikileaks?

If they wanted Clinton to win they wouldn't have done that.

 

[konradv]

I love these liberal TDS threads. This one is especially butthurt, posts a manifesto. The U.S. is broken?

Isn't that what Trump's saying with MAGA?

MAGA is now KAGA (Keep America Great Again).
Loser.

America needs to be changed so we can talk to each other again in agreement that the sky is blue.

Then quit trying to sell the crap drama.

No! Rot in hell Dem's. There I negotiated with Dems, kept it short and to the point.

 

[BluesLegend]

I love these liberal TDS threads. This one is especially butthurt, posts a manifesto. The U.S. is broken?

Isn't that what Trump's saying with MAGA?

MAGA is now KAGA (Keep America Great Again).
Loser.

America needs to be changed so we can talk to each other again in agreement that the sky is blue.

Then quit trying to sell the crap drama.

The problem of around 40% of the population having their heads full of bullshit, put there by Faux, Putin, and Trump can not be over stated.

You people on the left control 90% of the media, apparently you suck at this.

 

[BluesLegend]

Isn't that what Trump's saying with MAGA?

MAGA is now KAGA (Keep America Great Again).
Loser.

America needs to be changed so we can talk to each other again in agreement that the sky is blue.

Then quit trying to sell the crap drama.

No! Rot in hell Dem's. There I negotiated with Dems, kept it short and to the point.

Ahahaha go field a 2020 Dem candidate with even a 5% chance of winning if you can.

 

[Mac1958]

It's the intolerant, incurious, hateful, tribal, narcissistic, dishonest wingers on both ends who have "broken" the country.

And I doubt, a little bit more every day, that it can be fixed.

 

[konradv]

I love these liberal TDS threads. This one is especially butthurt, posts a manifesto. The U.S. is broken?

Isn't that what Trump's saying with MAGA?

No

Then what? You're honestly not making much sense.

We will do your thinking for you. Just relax everything will be fine.

If you did any thinking, 2016 would have turned out differently. So, no thanks.

 

[berg80]

Trump is trying to save America.

The opposite is true. Thanks for proving my point.

Save it by causing divisiveness, by running up the debt, by trying to take health insurance away from 20M people, by diminishing our standing in the world, by betraying allies, by constantly lying about everything, by bringing corrupt officials in to his admin, by tearing down our bedrock institutions, by profiting from holding his office, through nepotism, by destroying the integrity of his office, etc.?

 

[berg80]

It's the intolerant, incurious, hateful, tribal, narcissistic, dishonest wingers on both ends who have "broken" the country.

And I doubt, a little bit more every day, that it can be fixed.

I've seen the false equivalence "both sides do it" argument before. It's largely crap.

 

[Mac1958]

It's the intolerant, incurious, hateful, tribal, narcissistic, dishonest wingers on both ends who have "broken" the country. And I doubt, a little bit more every day, that it can be fixed.

I've seen the false equivalence "both sides do it" argument before. It's largely crap.

Yeah, that's what both sides say.
.

 

[iceberg]

I love these liberal TDS threads. This one is especially butthurt, posts a manifesto. The U.S. is broken?

Isn't that what Trump's saying with MAGA?

MAGA is now KAGA (Keep America Great Again).
Loser.

America needs to be changed so we can talk to each other again in agreement that the sky is blue.

Then quit trying to sell the crap drama.

The problem of around 40% of the population having their heads full of bullshit, put there by Faux, Putin, and Trump can not be over stated.

The problem is you only view your concerns as the valid ones.

 

[DustyInfinity]

Would the US be fixed if we believed the media that the border crises is 'manufactured'. I bet we'd be fixed if we accepted that illegal immigration is good for us, right?

 

[DustyInfinity]

I've got it this time. An actual president says we need to get ready for a managed decline, the new normal. And everyone is okay with that?

 

[DustyInfinity]

Would we be fixed if we didn't even say the name of the enemies who are blowing up Americans? Muslim Extremism.

 

[DustyInfinity]

I bet we'd be fixed if thought giving Iran cash would keep them from building nukes. We'd definitely be fixed if we thought the Paris Accords would do anything at all to help the environment.