Now gay people can get married AND enjoy lobster!

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Maine Gay Marriage Legalized

Maine Governor John Baldacci signed Wednesday into law a bill legalizing gay marriage in the state. The move makes Maine the fifth state to allow gay marriage.
The press release:
Governor John E. Baldacci today signed into law LD 1020, An Act to End Discrimination in Civil Marriage and Affirm Religious Freedom.
"I have followed closely the debate on this issue. I have listened to both sides, as they have presented their arguments during the public hearing and on the floor of the Maine Senate and the House of Representatives. I have read many of the notes and letters sent to my office, and I have weighed my decision carefully," Governor Baldacci said. "I did not come to this decision lightly or in haste."
"I appreciate the tone brought to this debate by both sides of the issue," Governor Baldacci said. "This is an emotional issue that touches deeply many of our most important ideals and traditions. There are good, earnest and honest people on both sides of the question."
"In the past, I opposed gay marriage while supporting the idea of civil unions," Governor Baldacci said. "I have come to believe that this is a question of fairness and of equal protection under the law, and that a civil union is not equal to civil marriage."
"Article I in the Maine Constitution states that 'no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law, nor be denied the equal protection of the laws, nor be denied the enjoyment of that person's civil rights or be discriminated against.'"
"This new law does not force any religion to recognize a marriage that falls outside of its beliefs. It does not require the church to perform any ceremony with which it disagrees. Instead, it reaffirms the separation of Church and State," Governor Baldacci said.
"It guarantees that Maine citizens will be treated equally under Maine's civil marriage laws, and that is the responsibility of government."
"Even as I sign this important legislation into law, I recognize that this may not be the final word," Governor Baldacci said. "Just as the Maine Constitution demands that all people are treated equally under the law, it also guarantees that the ultimate political power in the State belongs to the people."
"While the good and just people of Maine may determine this issue, my responsibility is to uphold the Constitution and do, as best as possible, what is right. I believe that signing this legislation is the right thing to do," Governor Baldacci said.

 
Ah, yes, that's the way to do it: legislatively.

:thup:

Technically, the people doing it judicially were only enforcing what the people doing it legislatively did when they put things like "equality" and "equal protection under the law" in their constitutions. If they didn't want to have to live up to what those words mean, then they shouldn't have put them in their state constitutions.

Also: congratulations on joining the rest of the modern world, Maine!
 
But now the debate is raging on whether or not Gay Lobsters can be legally married...
 
Maine Gay Marriage Legalized

Maine Governor John Baldacci signed Wednesday into law a bill legalizing gay marriage in the state. The move makes Maine the fifth state to allow gay marriage.
The press release:
Governor John E. Baldacci today signed into law LD 1020, An Act to End Discrimination in Civil Marriage and Affirm Religious Freedom.
"I have followed closely the debate on this issue. I have listened to both sides, as they have presented their arguments during the public hearing and on the floor of the Maine Senate and the House of Representatives. I have read many of the notes and letters sent to my office, and I have weighed my decision carefully," Governor Baldacci said. "I did not come to this decision lightly or in haste."
"I appreciate the tone brought to this debate by both sides of the issue," Governor Baldacci said. "This is an emotional issue that touches deeply many of our most important ideals and traditions. There are good, earnest and honest people on both sides of the question."
"In the past, I opposed gay marriage while supporting the idea of civil unions," Governor Baldacci said. "I have come to believe that this is a question of fairness and of equal protection under the law, and that a civil union is not equal to civil marriage."
"Article I in the Maine Constitution states that 'no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law, nor be denied the equal protection of the laws, nor be denied the enjoyment of that person's civil rights or be discriminated against.'"
"This new law does not force any religion to recognize a marriage that falls outside of its beliefs. It does not require the church to perform any ceremony with which it disagrees. Instead, it reaffirms the separation of Church and State," Governor Baldacci said.
"It guarantees that Maine citizens will be treated equally under Maine's civil marriage laws, and that is the responsibility of government."
"Even as I sign this important legislation into law, I recognize that this may not be the final word," Governor Baldacci said. "Just as the Maine Constitution demands that all people are treated equally under the law, it also guarantees that the ultimate political power in the State belongs to the people."
"While the good and just people of Maine may determine this issue, my responsibility is to uphold the Constitution and do, as best as possible, what is right. I believe that signing this legislation is the right thing to do," Governor Baldacci said.


So when are you moving to Maine?
 
Statistically speaking, gay couples tend to break up far less often than straight couples ... but yeah.

Maybe it's because they don't have as many choices/opportunities.

But, got proof?

Only personal experience ... until they are allowed to marry everywhere there is no proof either way ... :eusa_whistle:

Well KK, you did say statistically speaking.

You could have just made something up! :lol:

I'm sure just like the hetero couples, divorces will be filed down the road. Shouldn't be any different than any other divorce, just follow the laws.


Unless, the overturn the decision, then are the couples who got married still married? :confused:
 
Maybe it's because they don't have as many choices/opportunities.

But, got proof?

Only personal experience ... until they are allowed to marry everywhere there is no proof either way ... :eusa_whistle:

Well KK, you did say statistically speaking.

You could have just made something up! :lol:

I'm sure just like the hetero couples, divorces will be filed down the road. Shouldn't be any different than any other divorce, just follow the laws.


Unless, the overturn the decision, then are the couples who got married still married? :confused:

It depends on what state you're in ... most yeah, but in the back woods states they take on out back and shoot em ... :razz:
 
Maine Gay Marriage Legalized

Maine Governor John Baldacci signed Wednesday into law a bill legalizing gay marriage in the state. The move makes Maine the fifth state to allow gay marriage.
The press release:
Governor John E. Baldacci today signed into law LD 1020, An Act to End Discrimination in Civil Marriage and Affirm Religious Freedom.
"I have followed closely the debate on this issue. I have listened to both sides, as they have presented their arguments during the public hearing and on the floor of the Maine Senate and the House of Representatives. I have read many of the notes and letters sent to my office, and I have weighed my decision carefully," Governor Baldacci said. "I did not come to this decision lightly or in haste."
"I appreciate the tone brought to this debate by both sides of the issue," Governor Baldacci said. "This is an emotional issue that touches deeply many of our most important ideals and traditions. There are good, earnest and honest people on both sides of the question."
"In the past, I opposed gay marriage while supporting the idea of civil unions," Governor Baldacci said. "I have come to believe that this is a question of fairness and of equal protection under the law, and that a civil union is not equal to civil marriage."
"Article I in the Maine Constitution states that 'no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law, nor be denied the equal protection of the laws, nor be denied the enjoyment of that person's civil rights or be discriminated against.'"
"This new law does not force any religion to recognize a marriage that falls outside of its beliefs. It does not require the church to perform any ceremony with which it disagrees. Instead, it reaffirms the separation of Church and State," Governor Baldacci said.
"It guarantees that Maine citizens will be treated equally under Maine's civil marriage laws, and that is the responsibility of government."
"Even as I sign this important legislation into law, I recognize that this may not be the final word," Governor Baldacci said. "Just as the Maine Constitution demands that all people are treated equally under the law, it also guarantees that the ultimate political power in the State belongs to the people."
"While the good and just people of Maine may determine this issue, my responsibility is to uphold the Constitution and do, as best as possible, what is right. I believe that signing this legislation is the right thing to do," Governor Baldacci said.


Way to go Maine. :clap2: The sooner all states adopt the same position the better, IMO, then we can hopefully put an end this stupid issue.
 
Maybe it's because they don't have as many choices/opportunities.

But, got proof?

Only personal experience ... until they are allowed to marry everywhere there is no proof either way ... :eusa_whistle:

Then, you don't have statistics, do you?
Way to make things up. :slap:

What .. so the only statistics that are valid are those "approved" by one specific group, organization, or what? Statistics are just numbers based on an observation, my personal experience shows that there is a 75% chance a straight couple will split up within 5 years of starting the relationship while gay couples have only a 20% chance ... there, does that make the statistic more valid since I gave numbers to it?
 
Only personal experience ... until they are allowed to marry everywhere there is no proof either way ... :eusa_whistle:

Then, you don't have statistics, do you?
Way to make things up. :slap:

What .. so the only statistics that are valid are those "approved" by one specific group, organization, or what? Statistics are just numbers based on an observation, my personal experience shows that there is a 75% chance a straight couple will split up within 5 years of starting the relationship while gay couples have only a 20% chance ... there, does that make the statistic more valid since I gave numbers to it?

Making up numbers doesn't prove anything.
Your personal claims are not proof of anything nor statistics.
You got caught, and now you are trying to back peddle.
Just for that, you deserve another one, :slap:
 
Then, you don't have statistics, do you?
Way to make things up. :slap:

What .. so the only statistics that are valid are those "approved" by one specific group, organization, or what? Statistics are just numbers based on an observation, my personal experience shows that there is a 75% chance a straight couple will split up within 5 years of starting the relationship while gay couples have only a 20% chance ... there, does that make the statistic more valid since I gave numbers to it?

Making up numbers doesn't prove anything.
Your personal claims are not proof of anything nor statistics.
You got caught, and now you are trying to back peddle.
Just for that, you deserve another one, :slap:

It's not making up numbers, and just because I don't have published stats to go by doesn't make them less valid, they are still statistics and gathered in no less a scientific method than any other. Personal observation trumps anything posted online, especially when there are none published.
 

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