Quantum Windbag
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If Hobby were to win their challenge and be exempted from following this law due to religious objections, what's to stop someone like @The Rabbi from refusing to comply with minimum wage laws on account of they violate his religious beliefs?
there are no religious beliefs against minimum wages and in order to prove in front of the court that something IS a religious belief violation, there has to be a log-standing established proof it is. Abortion and contraception is a DIRECT violation of numerous religious ESTABLISHED beliefs and the established rules go back centuries in some cases.
more straw men arguments on your part, or the proof of your ignorance
It's a hypothetical, to explore weaknesses in an argument. Can you just answer it? If there were religious beliefs that minimum wage, or stopping at stop signs, or whatever, was wrong - should that give religious people a free pass to ignore the law?
koshergirl is saying, from what I gather, 'yes, as long as they don't violate the rights of others', and I ideally, I agree with that. But that is a general principle that should apply to ALL beliefs, not just religious beliefs. No one should face coercion from government unless they are violating someone else's rights.
But the sad fact is, our government is not ideal. There are many laws of expedience wherein breaking them wouldn't violate anyone else's rights. Should religious people feel free to skip out on those whenever it conflicts with their religious views?
It is not a hypothetical to argue that someone has a religious belief that precludes obeying traffic laws unless you can point to a religion that requires it.
On the other hand, I can easily show you hundreds of cases where laws have been struck down because of how they affected religious rights. For example, did you know that some cities passed laws making it illegal to knock on someones door unless you got a permit in advance? And that the Supreme Court struck it down because it was challenged by Jehovah's Witnesses who fought for the right to knock on your door without a permit? They have won 48 different times in the Supreme Court on the basis of religious freedom and free speech, and that has made you freer than you would be if they had lost.