Now...About That 'White Privilege'....

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1. It behooves mention on St. Patrick's Day, that, arguably, the Irish had it at least as bad, and probably worse, than any other group in their journey through the membership hazings into membership in this society.

Coulter put it this way:
When Obama, or other politicians, appeal for the black vote, it is on the basis of felt grievances and presumed oppression. It is a worthy pursuit to seek the explanation for this view among a large segment of black population. It wasn’t the result of the slavery and/or the Civil War.
It was the misfortune of black Americans that they were just on the verge of passing through the immigrant experience when damaging ideas about welfare and the lenient attitude about crime took hold. It could have happened to the Italians, Germans, Jews or Irish, but luckily for them, there were no Liberals around to “help” when they arrived.

2.
The Irish were the first ethnic minority in American cities, and their history shows the classic pattern of new comers to the urban economy, and society. Starting at the very bottom of the urban occupational ladder, with the men as laborers and the woman as maids. Housing was far worse than urban slums today.
Thomas Sowell, "Ethnic America," chapter one.

a. In fact, black Americans were doing better in individual pursuits than many immigrants. Barone compared their American journey to the Irish: “Both rise smartly in hierarchies (government bureaucracies, the military) but haven't fared as well in free-market commerce.”
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/941114/archive_013670.htm



3. "The French sociologist, Gustave de Beaumont, visited Ireland in 1835 and wrote: "I have seen the Indian in his forests, and the Negro in his chains, and thought, as I contemplated their pitiable condition, that I saw the very extreme of human wretchedness; but I did not then know the condition of unfortunate Ireland...In all countries, more or less, paupers may be discovered; but an entire nation of paupers is what was never seen until it was shown in Ireland." Slaves in the United States had a greater life expectancy than peasants in Ireland." The West Awake: Barry Clifford: The Democide Of Ireland In The 1800's


4. Ignored, and tolerated at first, once the Irish filled Boston's slum districts, the native Protestant "population galvanized into what became known as the Know-Nothing Party."

Anti-Catholic hatred was palpable.

And Roosevelt, who authorized housing projects showed another side in nominating,as his first Supreme Court Justice, Hugo Black.....virulent anti-Catholic jurist....the one who insinuated 'separation of church and state' into the Constitution.

a. The Know-Nothing (Progressive) movement arose in response to an influx of migrants, and promised to "purify" American politics by limiting or ending the influence of Irish Catholics and other immigrants, thus reflecting nativist and anti-Catholic sentiment.... Mainly active from 1854 to 1856, the movement strove to curb immigration and naturalization, but met with little success. Membership was limited to Protestant men.... In spring 1854, the Know Nothings carried Boston,Salem, and other New England cities. They swept the state of Massachusetts in the fall 1854 elections, their biggest victory."
Know Nothing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





5. "...The avenues out of poverty and into the middle class were few. One was the church. There was always a need for more priests-

Another accepted career path was the police department, though it didn't pay particularly well.....

There was this "I wanted a job with a suit that didn't come equipped with a chauffeur's cap...." but other than running funeral homes and saloons, virtually no opportunities existed for the Irish in business above the level of clerk. The signs are still sold 'No Irish Need Apply..."
Carr, "The Brothers Bulger"
 
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1. It behooves mention on St. Patrick's Day, that, arguably, the Irish had it at least as bad, and probably worse, than any other group in their journey through the membership hazings into membership in this society.

Coulter put it this way:
When Obama, or other politicians, appeal for the black vote, it is on the basis of felt grievances and presumed oppression. It is a worthy pursuit to seek the explanation for this view among a large segment of black population. It wasn’t the result of the slavery and/or the Civil War.
It was the misfortune of black Americans that they were just on the verge of passing through the immigrant experience when damaging ideas about welfare and the lenient attitude about crime took hold. It could have happened to the Italians, Germans, Jews or Irish, but luckily for them, there were no Liberals around to “help” when they arrived.

2.
The Irish were the first ethnic minority in American cities, and their history shows the classic pattern of new comers to the urban economy, and society. Starting at the very bottom of the urban occupational ladder, with the men as laborers and the woman as maids. Housing was far worse than urban slums today.
Thomas Sowell, "Ethnic America," chapter one.

a. In fact, black Americans were doing better in individual pursuits than many immigrants. Barone compared their American journey to the Irish: “Both rise smartly in hierarchies (government bureaucracies, the military) but haven't fared as well in free-market commerce.”
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/941114/archive_013670.htm



3. "The French sociologist, Gustave de Beaumont, visited Ireland in 1835 and wrote: "I have seen the Indian in his forests, and the Negro in his chains, and thought, as I contemplated their pitiable condition, that I saw the very extreme of human wretchedness; but I did not then know the condition of unfortunate Ireland...In all countries, more or less, paupers may be discovered; but an entire nation of paupers is what was never seen until it was shown in Ireland." Slaves in the United States had a greater life expectancy than peasants in Ireland." The West Awake: Barry Clifford: The Democide Of Ireland In The 1800's


4. Ignored, and tolerated at first, once the Irish filled Boston's slum districts, the native Protestant "population galvanized into what became known as the Know-Nothing Party."

Anti-Catholic hatred was palpable.

And Roosevelt, who authorized housing projects showed another side in nominating,as his first Supreme Court Justice, Hugo Black.....virulent anti-Catholic jurist....the one who insinuated 'separation of church and state' into the Constitution.

a. The Know-Nothing (Progressive) movement arose in response to an influx of migrants, and promised to "purify" American politics by limiting or ending the influence of Irish Catholics and other immigrants, thus reflecting nativist and anti-Catholic sentiment.... Mainly active from 1854 to 1856, the movement strove to curb immigration and naturalization, but met with little success. Membership was limited to Protestant men.... In spring 1854, the Know Nothings carried Boston,Salem, and other New England cities. They swept the state of Massachusetts in the fall 1854 elections, their biggest victory."
Know Nothing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





5. "...The avenues out of poverty and into the middle class were few. One was the church. There was always a need for more priests-

Another accepted career path was the police department, though it didn't pay particularly well.....

There was this "I wanted a job with a suit that didn't come equipped with a chauffeur's cap...." but other than running funeral homes and saloons, virtually no opportunities existed for the Irish in business above the level of clerk. The signs are still sold 'No Irish Need Apply..."
Carr, "The Brothers Bulger"
Mentioning any other race who had it tough but blacks, is forbidden by libturds
 
Of course, the subtext is that racism and racial discord are the fault of the Democrats.

They proffer division and racial hatred.

The Socialist Saint, godfather of the current Democrat Party, Franklin Roosevelt was a bigot and a racist, and the one who made certain that cultural Marxism had a home in America.



. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.
It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.
Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]

Betrayal: FDR and the Jews




"However, it can be argued that because of his very outspoken and domineering mother who clearly possessed a strong streak of anti-Semitism, FDR couldn't help his underlying prejudice regarding Jews. As described in an entry of January 27, 1942, Henry Morganthau Diaries, "Roosevelt proclaimed to a shocked Crowley (Catholic Economist and wartime Alien Property Custodian): Leo, you know this is a Protestant country, and the Catholics and the Jews are here on sufferance. This comment exemplifies FDR's upbringing among America's Protestant elite and how it most likely perpetuated a belief system that explains his aloofness from the crimes that were committed against Jews during the Holocaust." https://www.mtholyoke.edu/~simon20r/SS St. Louis/roosevelt.html

" Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews

Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.
 
1. It behooves mention on St. Patrick's Day, that, arguably, the Irish had it at least as bad, and probably worse, than any other group in their journey through the membership hazings into membership in this society.

Coulter put it this way:
When Obama, or other politicians, appeal for the black vote, it is on the basis of felt grievances and presumed oppression. It is a worthy pursuit to seek the explanation for this view among a large segment of black population. It wasn’t the result of the slavery and/or the Civil War.
It was the misfortune of black Americans that they were just on the verge of passing through the immigrant experience when damaging ideas about welfare and the lenient attitude about crime took hold. It could have happened to the Italians, Germans, Jews or Irish, but luckily for them, there were no Liberals around to “help” when they arrived.

2.
The Irish were the first ethnic minority in American cities, and their history shows the classic pattern of new comers to the urban economy, and society. Starting at the very bottom of the urban occupational ladder, with the men as laborers and the woman as maids. Housing was far worse than urban slums today.
Thomas Sowell, "Ethnic America," chapter one.

a. In fact, black Americans were doing better in individual pursuits than many immigrants. Barone compared their American journey to the Irish: “Both rise smartly in hierarchies (government bureaucracies, the military) but haven't fared as well in free-market commerce.”
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/941114/archive_013670.htm



3. "The French sociologist, Gustave de Beaumont, visited Ireland in 1835 and wrote: "I have seen the Indian in his forests, and the Negro in his chains, and thought, as I contemplated their pitiable condition, that I saw the very extreme of human wretchedness; but I did not then know the condition of unfortunate Ireland...In all countries, more or less, paupers may be discovered; but an entire nation of paupers is what was never seen until it was shown in Ireland." Slaves in the United States had a greater life expectancy than peasants in Ireland." The West Awake: Barry Clifford: The Democide Of Ireland In The 1800's


4. Ignored, and tolerated at first, once the Irish filled Boston's slum districts, the native Protestant "population galvanized into what became known as the Know-Nothing Party."

Anti-Catholic hatred was palpable.

And Roosevelt, who authorized housing projects showed another side in nominating,as his first Supreme Court Justice, Hugo Black.....virulent anti-Catholic jurist....the one who insinuated 'separation of church and state' into the Constitution.

a. The Know-Nothing (Progressive) movement arose in response to an influx of migrants, and promised to "purify" American politics by limiting or ending the influence of Irish Catholics and other immigrants, thus reflecting nativist and anti-Catholic sentiment.... Mainly active from 1854 to 1856, the movement strove to curb immigration and naturalization, but met with little success. Membership was limited to Protestant men.... In spring 1854, the Know Nothings carried Boston,Salem, and other New England cities. They swept the state of Massachusetts in the fall 1854 elections, their biggest victory."
Know Nothing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





5. "...The avenues out of poverty and into the middle class were few. One was the church. There was always a need for more priests-

Another accepted career path was the police department, though it didn't pay particularly well.....

There was this "I wanted a job with a suit that didn't come equipped with a chauffeur's cap...." but other than running funeral homes and saloons, virtually no opportunities existed for the Irish in business above the level of clerk. The signs are still sold 'No Irish Need Apply..."
Carr, "The Brothers Bulger"
I always enjoy your 'alternate' histories but I hope no Protestants in Florida sue you for making them feel bad.

Just a question though, how many 'Jim Crow' like laws were passed at the State or Federal level? As Columbo would say, one last question, how many Irish were lynched in this country?
 
You have no idea about all the forced labor on the railroads and such in the 1800s

Nary a clue time card puncher
There is a huge difference between voluntarily taking a job and being born into slavery

If you ran away from your Railroad job, nobody chased you down with dogs and brought you back in chains
 
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I always enjoy your 'alternate' histories but I hope no Protestants in Florida sue you for making them feel bad.

Just a question though, how many 'Jim Crow' like laws were passed at the State or Federal level? As Columbo would say, one last question, how many Irish were lynched in this country?



Every "Jim Crow" law ever passed was at the behest of Democrats.

Every lynching, the same.

The Nazis gave the Democrat Party credit for many of their views:

“Let’s remember that every segregation law in the South was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, and enforced by Democratic officials. The Nuremberg team carefully studied these laws that were mainly aimed at blacks and used them to formulate their own racist legislation mainly aimed at Jews.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats


  • From the LATimes:
  • “At a crucial 1934 planning meeting for the Nuremberg system, the Minister of Justice presented a memorandum on American law. According to a transcript, he led a detailed discussion of miscegenation statutes from all over the United States. Moreover it is clear that the most radical Nazis were the most eager advocates of American practices. Roland Freisler, who would become president of the Nazi People's Court, declared that American jurisprudence "would suit us perfectly."
    When the Nazis wrote the Nuremberg laws, they looked to racist American statutes
  • although the Nazis used the Democrat doctrines, Jim Crow and segregation laws as their model…..

  • ….wait for it…..

  • ….the Nazis found them TOO HARSH!!!!!

“And the ugly irony is that when the Nazis rejected American law, it was often because they found it too harsh. For example, Nazi observers shuddered at the "human hardness" of the "one drop" rule, which classified people "of predominantly white appearance" as blacks. To them, American racism was sometimes simply too inhumane.



That may sound implausible — too awful to believe — but in their early years in power, the Nazis were not yet contemplating the "final solution." At first, they had a different fate in mind for the German Jewry: Jews were to be reduced to second-class citizenship and punished criminally if they sought to marry or engage in sexual contact with "Aryans." The ultimate goal was to terrify Germany's Jews into emigrating.”
 
Of course, the subtext is that racism and racial discord are the fault of the Democrats.

They proffer division and racial hatred.

The Socialist Saint, godfather of the current Democrat Party, Franklin Roosevelt was a bigot and a racist, and the one who made certain that cultural Marxism had a home in America.



. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.
It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.
Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]

Betrayal: FDR and the Jews




"However, it can be argued that because of his very outspoken and domineering mother who clearly possessed a strong streak of anti-Semitism, FDR couldn't help his underlying prejudice regarding Jews. As described in an entry of January 27, 1942, Henry Morganthau Diaries, "Roosevelt proclaimed to a shocked Crowley (Catholic Economist and wartime Alien Property Custodian): Leo, you know this is a Protestant country, and the Catholics and the Jews are here on sufferance. This comment exemplifies FDR's upbringing among America's Protestant elite and how it most likely perpetuated a belief system that explains his aloofness from the crimes that were committed against Jews during the Holocaust." https://www.mtholyoke.edu/~simon20r/SS St. Louis/roosevelt.html

" Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews

Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.
You might as well go even further back in time to the last great GOP President:
In Lincoln’s 1858 speech in pro-slavery Southern Illinois he insisted that he opposed “bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the black and white races.”
 
"Now...About That 'White Privilege'...."
Yeah, huh, why "Now"? Why feeling so butt hurt today?
Oh, Ann Coulter and St. Patty's Day?
Ah, well in that case, "these problems affect Americans in the middle to upper class. This is when your life is so amazing, that you make shit up to be upset about."
 

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