Not Just Southwest: A Tsunami Of Pushback Over Mandates Is Coming For Joe Biden

If you adjust these numbers to only count as deaths from Covid, those who actually died from Ciovid, rather than counting deaths from all causes in any case where any tenuous connection can be claimed for the decedent having ever been exposed to Covid, then these numbers are reduced to a tiny fraction of the claimed values.

But then doing that, honestly reporting the actual causes of death and long-term harm from this disease, would totally destroy all the fearmongering and abuse of power taking place on the basis of it.

Why should we adjust the numbers. The point was, those people were living with their other medical conditions up until TRUMP PLAGUE killed them.

By your logic, we should count no Covid Deaths, because everyone is going to die of something eventually.
 
Why should we adjust the numbers. The point was, those people were living with their other medical conditions up until TRUMP PLAGUE killed them.

By your logic, we should count no Covid Deaths, because everyone is going to die of something eventually.

I was being mildly sarcastic when I used the word “adjust”. The hard truth, that everyone knows who hasn't allowed himself to be deeply brainwashed and deceived, is that the number of claimed deaths from COVID has been massively exaggerated, by claiming as COVID deaths deaths which were clearly from other causes having no connection to COVID, and even cases where there was no evidence that the decedent even had COVID at all.

Even the corrupt CDC admitted that only about 6% of claimed COVID deaths are genuinely from COVID itself, and whatever the CDC admits, you have to know that the truth is much more damning than that.

There is no genuine COVID pandemic. This is a fake crisis, built on exaggerations fearmongering, and outright lies, created for malevolent political purposes. One has to be amazingly blind and ignorant not to see this. Or, like you, willfully complicit.
 
Why should we adjust the numbers. The point was, those people were living with their other medical conditions up until TRUMP PLAGUE killed them.

By your logic, we should count no Covid Deaths, because everyone is going to die of something eventually.

Which is pure bullshit. Last year my Uncle died from colon cancer and colon cancer alone. He never had covid and they marked his death certificate as a covid death. My Uncle is just one of thousands of stories out there just like it.
 
I understand it just fine.

You, on the other hand, exemplify Upton Sinclair's observation that it's hard to get a man to understand a problem if his livelihood depends on him not understanding it.

You are collecting money from the government to not work, because any job you do now won't pay you as much as disability. Yet you get on here and complain about people who won't go back and risk getting Covid (TRUMP PLAGUE) when they can collect unemployment.

You don't understand shit because you don't have the intelligence to understand. If you can't figure out the difference between disability and young healthy people being paid to stay home, it shows me and everybody here what an idiot you are.

I collect money I paid into the system my entire life because the GOVERNMENT determined I was too sick to work. I was immediately approved just by submitting all my medical records alone. No meeting with SS, no examination by their doctors, but my age (60) played a huge factor because you can't start a new career at this age even if you could find somebody to hire you.

So quit your whining already. The specialists said I have less than three years to live (if I'm lucky) so I'll still have put more into the system than I'm taking out.


Trade Deficit has nothing to do with the economy? YOu are really going to claim that the economy bleeding out half a trillion every year to other countries isn't a problem? Whatever, dude. Remember, the whole fucking point of Trump's trade war with China was China was taking too much of our money, but by the end of it, they were taking more of it.

A strong economy wouldn't have been crippled by a three week shutdown in part of the country. Covid just kicked in a rotten edifice.

Our country has had a huge trade deficit for decades and we've had economies go both ways.

Shithole countries.

No evidence he ever said that. One anti-Trumper made that claim. Never happened. Even if he did say that, WTF would that have to do with race?

Mexicans are rapists

Another leftist lie. He never said that. Don't challenge me liar because I will provide links to make you look like a complete buffoon as I always do.

Execute the Central Park Five (even after they were found innocent)

No, he said that before and was only going by what the media reported. See how idiotic it is to use lies in debate?

Trump is a racist. You are a racist. You think his behavior is okay.

And you voted for a guy who said poor kids can be just as bright as white kids. You're not really black unless you vote for me. They want to put ya'all back in chains. I don't want to send my kids to a racial jungle. You just about have to speak Indian to shop at a 7-11. He (Obama) is articulate and clean.

I voted for Trump who never said anything racist and you voted for the most racist President of our lifetime. Who's the racist now, you or me?

Based on what? If he managed Afghanistan like he managed Covid, the Taliban would have been lining Americans up against the wall and Trump would be screaming mean tweets about how they were making him look bad.

The Taliban was scared to death of Trump which is why they listened to him. They knew if they fell out of line, it wouldn't be like dealing with an idiot as we have in the White House today. Trump meant what he said.

Except the Taliban were violating Doha before Trump left, and he did nothing.

Our ability to do anything ws already limited by the fact Trump had drawn down the troops to 2500.

And they knew Trump could have had ten times that amount of troops there in less than a week. They violated their agreement which is probably why Trump kept our troops there. Again under Trump's plan, our pulling out was contingent based on what was happening on the ground.
 

Not Just Southwest:

A Tsunami Of Pushback Over Mandates Is Coming For Joe Biden

11 Oct 2021 ~~ By Paul Goldberg
The media has largely ignored the pushback Joe Biden is receiving or his vaccine/testing mandate.
Just one call out over a weekend brought Southwest airlines to its knees however, it’s not just Southwest Airlines.
Amtrak had to cancel trains because of a “staffing issue,” shipbuilding employees in Newport News are promising to to crush production over the mandate.

Workers for the ship building company Huntington Ingalls are furious over the mandate that they must be vaccinated by December 8th. A letter from COOO Chris Kastner informed employees that if they don’t get vaccinated they could lose their jobs which incited protests.
A group gathered last Friday protesting the mandate and only 59% of shipbuilders are vaccinated. Should Huntington Ingalls follow through with Joe Biden’s mandate it would cripple the shipbuilding industry.
In Washington State there has been “unprecedented” disruptions because of “staffing shortages.”
The Samish, which is one of three vessels serving the Anacortes- San Juan Islands was taken out of service after 28 workers called out.
State Ferries spokesperson Ian Sterling reported that 230 employees have not complied with the State’s vaccination mandate which has crippled the ferry system.
“We still have time before the 18th. We don’t know what the full impact will be and how many people will choose to leave state employment,” Sterling said.
The ferry system is the only “viable way off the islands for most people” and the staffing shortage is going to cause a crisis in the area.
The union representing pilots for American Airlines has warned the company they may end up in the same boat as Southwest Airlines during the holiday seasons if they don’t start accepting exemptions.
“Some of APA’s members are unable to undergo vaccination for documented medical reasons, while others are reluctant to get vaccinated based upon concerns about the potential for career-ending side effects,” read the Sept. 24 letter.
~Snip~
Staff must prove they have been vaccinated by November 24 – the day before Thanksgiving – or they can be fired.
OAN reporter Jack Posobiec has learned that the White House is feeling the heat and Secretary Pete’s phone has been ringing off the hook.

There is a massive wave of pushback that is being ignored by the media below are posts from government employees and an airline pilot pushing back.

Comment:
Let’s go Brandon!
They set a vax deadline to the day before Thanksgiving? Busiest travel day of the year?
WE THE PEOPLE must assert our constitutional rights!!!!!-
If the majority of America refuses Joey Xi's edicts on vaccinations, what will he do? Send us all to re-education camps to be taught CRT?
Meanwhile this is all the fault of the Secretary of Transportation Pete Butt-jig....
It's obvious that the Bai Dung administration is fully staffed by Keystone Kops....
Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrat Commies and Joey Xi Bai Dung are thrilled. The more America, hurts the better for them. So they think. They want us to suffer to show they are in charge and only they can help us. They want us on our knees. Will it work? Well, look at who is drooling on the Resolute Desk. He is there and the world suffers. And the idiot democrats vote for it. I am optimistic.
The People Will Not Let This Stand and Revolting. We must all stand together.....


No. You can stamp you feet collectively if you want, nothing will happen. He will eventually make it so hard there will be no options.
Other than medical reasons, NOT ONE person has a legitimate reason to not get jabbed.

You are all being silly recalcitrants attempting to bring the government down.
Well, get out all those old guns and storm the WH. Show your strength in numbers and blow the snot out of those pillaging hordes of communists in Washington.

You couldn't organise a chook raffle.
 

Not Just Southwest:

A Tsunami Of Pushback Over Mandates Is Coming For Joe Biden

11 Oct 2021 ~~ By Paul Goldberg
The media has largely ignored the pushback Joe Biden is receiving or his vaccine/testing mandate.
Just one call out over a weekend brought Southwest airlines to its knees however, it’s not just Southwest Airlines.
Amtrak had to cancel trains because of a “staffing issue,” shipbuilding employees in Newport News are promising to to crush production over the mandate.

Workers for the ship building company Huntington Ingalls are furious over the mandate that they must be vaccinated by December 8th. A letter from COOO Chris Kastner informed employees that if they don’t get vaccinated they could lose their jobs which incited protests.
A group gathered last Friday protesting the mandate and only 59% of shipbuilders are vaccinated. Should Huntington Ingalls follow through with Joe Biden’s mandate it would cripple the shipbuilding industry.
In Washington State there has been “unprecedented” disruptions because of “staffing shortages.”
The Samish, which is one of three vessels serving the Anacortes- San Juan Islands was taken out of service after 28 workers called out.
State Ferries spokesperson Ian Sterling reported that 230 employees have not complied with the State’s vaccination mandate which has crippled the ferry system.
“We still have time before the 18th. We don’t know what the full impact will be and how many people will choose to leave state employment,” Sterling said.
The ferry system is the only “viable way off the islands for most people” and the staffing shortage is going to cause a crisis in the area.
The union representing pilots for American Airlines has warned the company they may end up in the same boat as Southwest Airlines during the holiday seasons if they don’t start accepting exemptions.
“Some of APA’s members are unable to undergo vaccination for documented medical reasons, while others are reluctant to get vaccinated based upon concerns about the potential for career-ending side effects,” read the Sept. 24 letter.
~Snip~
Staff must prove they have been vaccinated by November 24 – the day before Thanksgiving – or they can be fired.
OAN reporter Jack Posobiec has learned that the White House is feeling the heat and Secretary Pete’s phone has been ringing off the hook.

There is a massive wave of pushback that is being ignored by the media below are posts from government employees and an airline pilot pushing back.

Comment:
Let’s go Brandon!
They set a vax deadline to the day before Thanksgiving? Busiest travel day of the year?
WE THE PEOPLE must assert our constitutional rights!!!!!-
If the majority of America refuses Joey Xi's edicts on vaccinations, what will he do? Send us all to re-education camps to be taught CRT?
Meanwhile this is all the fault of the Secretary of Transportation Pete Butt-jig....
It's obvious that the Bai Dung administration is fully staffed by Keystone Kops....
Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrat Commies and Joey Xi Bai Dung are thrilled. The more America, hurts the better for them. So they think. They want us to suffer to show they are in charge and only they can help us. They want us on our knees. Will it work? Well, look at who is drooling on the Resolute Desk. He is there and the world suffers. And the idiot democrats vote for it. I am optimistic.
The People Will Not Let This Stand and Revolting. We must all stand together.....

And when we see mandates wiping out Covid, Biden and the scientific community will be proven correct.

The City of Seattle in King Country Washington is now one the highest vaccinated cities in the country thanks to a state vaccine mandate effecting all state worker, city and school board mandates, and a number of businesses large and small. On October 25, vaccines will be required in both Seattle and King country for entrance to restaurants, bars, and gyms. Although the effect of the latest mandates have not taken effect, Covid has already started to subside. From Aug 1st to Oct 15th, cases are down 41%, hospitalizations down, 42%, and deaths down 46%. Once the effect of these mandates take hold, Covid will be on it's way out in the Seattle area.
 
I was being mildly sarcastic when I used the word “adjust”. The hard truth, that everyone knows who hasn't allowed himself to be deeply brainwashed and deceived, is that the number of claimed deaths from COVID has been massively exaggerated, by claiming as COVID deaths deaths which were clearly from other causes having no connection to COVID, and even cases where there was no evidence that the decedent even had COVID at all.

Even the corrupt CDC admitted that only about 6% of claimed COVID deaths are genuinely from COVID itself, and whatever the CDC admits, you have to know that the truth is much more damning than that.

Again, Mormon Bob, I realize you are too stupid to realize what a co-morbidity is... but the point is, those people would still be alive if it wasn't for Covid. Like Colin Powell yesterday. He had health issues and he was old. But the Covid killed him.

You don't understand shit because you don't have the intelligence to understand. If you can't figure out the difference between disability and young healthy people being paid to stay home, it shows me and everybody here what an idiot you are.

Uh, no. Now, I'm sorry to hear your condition is getting worse, but when they took you off the road, the only thing you couldn't do was drive a truck.

My sister was legally blind and they STILL insisted she find other work or at least try to before approving her disability.

Our country has had a huge trade deficit for decades and we've had economies go both ways.

But you miss the point, buddy...


No, he said that before and was only going by what the media reported. See how idiotic it is to use lies in debate?

Trump still insisted he was right even after the Central Park Five were exonerated.




The Taliban was scared to death of Trump which is why they listened to him. They knew if they fell out of line, it wouldn't be like dealing with an idiot as we have in the White House today. Trump meant what he said.

The Taliban killed more Americans on Trump's watch than Biden's. They weren't scared of him at all, he was giving them everything they wanted.


And they knew Trump could have had ten times that amount of troops there in less than a week. They violated their agreement which is probably why Trump kept our troops there. Again under Trump's plan, our pulling out was contingent based on what was happening on the ground.

Actually, no, it wasn't. It called for a complete withdrawal on May 31st. Biden actually extended the deadline to get more Americans out.

The Taliban violated the Doha accord in that they continued to attack Afghan Forces, continued to assassinate government officials and did not enter into negotiations with the government. All they did was that they didn't attack Americans, who were largely hunkered down on bases at that point.

Doha was a craven surrender to the Taliban, which basically, I don't have much of a problem with. What I have a problem with is Trump not having the integrity to stand up for his own actions.
 
Or that we are in the pandemic of the un-vaccinated after the death of Colon Powell.

yes, if you are an 84 year old man with blood cancer, you probably aren't going to get that much benefit from the vaccine... I know this is hard to fathom.

Most of the people dying from Covid are in the red states and refusing to get the jab... But Colin Powell (you spelled his name wrong) is a celebrity, so let's go with that.
 
yes, if you are an 84 year old man with blood cancer, you probably aren't going to get that much benefit from the vaccine... I know this is hard to fathom.

Most of the people dying from Covid are in the red states and refusing to get the jab... But Colin Powell (you spelled his name wrong) is a celebrity, so let's go with that.
Most of the people dying from Covid are in the red states

Your story is changing. :abgg2q.jpg:
 
Uh, no. Now, I'm sorry to hear your condition is getting worse, but when they took you off the road, the only thing you couldn't do was drive a truck.

My sister was legally blind and they STILL insisted she find other work or at least try to before approving her disability.

You don't know enough about it to make comments. First of all SS uses a point system. Age is part of that point system as they know when you lose your job and career late in life, getting a replacement is nearly impossible. Next (as my lawyer explained) is that SS uses a 15 year window. If you worked in any other field within that 15 years, they will disqualify you because you have experience in another field of work. You will then have to prove you cannot work your former career either.

Once accepted they put you into one of three categories. The first is the likelihood of you being able to return to work. They review your records and improvements every six months to a year and make a decision whether you can go back to work or not. Category 2 is where they review your records every three or four years. Category 3 is when your situation is hopeless because it will never get better, but they still review your records every seven years. I was placed in category 3. Even if they reviewed my records in seven years and decided I could go back to work, I'd be on SS retirement anyway.

Trump still insisted he was right even after the Central Park Five were exonerated.

Yes, Vox, the lying machine of the left. That aside, just because the suspects were black doesn't make it racist to think they were guilty. You don't know what racist means.

The Taliban killed more Americans on Trump's watch than Biden's. They weren't scared of him at all, he was giving them everything they wanted.

Yes they did when Trump first got in. He had to clean up DumBama's mess and that took time. Once Trump got control over the situation, the killing stopped. In fact not one dead American in his last 18 months.

Actually, no, it wasn't. It called for a complete withdrawal on May 31st. Biden actually extended the deadline to get more Americans out.

The Taliban violated the Doha accord in that they continued to attack Afghan Forces, continued to assassinate government officials and did not enter into negotiations with the government. All they did was that they didn't attack Americans, who were largely hunkered down on bases at that point.

Doha was a craven surrender to the Taliban, which basically, I don't have much of a problem with. What I have a problem with is Trump not having the integrity to stand up for his own actions.

Oh bullshit. You tried that "timeline" crap when Hussein fucked up Iraq so badly. Keep blaming other people for your idiots mistakes. Hussein was completely responsible for the Iraq disaster. Biden is completely responsible for the Afghanistan disaster. Learn how to take some responsibility once in a great while. Who knows, if you start doing that, maybe you'll become a Republican.
 
Good.

I'm glad to see people saying no and sticking to their guns. Far too few people have the guts to stand by their convictions anymore and make up their own mind.
In the Seattle area with both a city, county, and state vaccination mandate and protestors on the streets vowing hold out, it appeared that large numbers of people were going have the guts to sacrifice their job for their principals or stupidity. Now the deadline has come and past. The results, 91% of city workers are now vaccinated, 7% given religious exemptions and 1% being terminated. The picture is much the same for state workers, 92% vaccinated, 7% religious exemptions and 1% to be terminated. In schools it's much the same, 99% of teachers are vaccinated and 100% of principals. As one antivaxxer pointed out, I'm taking the vaccine because I won't the freedom to go into restaurants, bars, sporting events. On the Oct. 25th another mandate in the Seattle area requires vaccinations to enter bars, restaurants, and gyms. Also statewide, vaccination or current negative test required at all major gatherings.

In the Seattle area the mandates are starting to have effect on the spread of corvid. Over the last 2 months, new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are down over 40%.
 
In the Seattle area with both a city, county, and state vaccination mandate and protestors on the streets vowing hold out, it appeared that large numbers of people were going have the guts to sacrifice their job for their principals or stupidity. Now the deadline has come and past. The results, 91% of city workers are now vaccinated, 7% given religious exemptions and 1% being terminated. The picture is much the same for state workers, 92% vaccinated, 7% religious exemptions and 1% to be terminated. In schools it's much the same, 99% of teachers are vaccinated and 100% of principals. As one antivaxxer pointed out, I'm taking the vaccine because I won't the freedom to go into restaurants, bars, sporting events. On the Oct. 25th another mandate in the Seattle area requires vaccinations to enter bars, restaurants, and gyms. Also statewide, vaccination or current negative test required at all major gatherings.

In the Seattle area the mandates are starting to have effect on the spread of corvid. Over the last 2 months, new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are down over 40%.
 
You don't know enough about it to make comments. First of all SS uses a point system. Age is part of that point system as they know when you lose your job and career late in life, getting a replacement is nearly impossible. Next (as my lawyer explained) is that SS uses a 15 year window. If you worked in any other field within that 15 years, they will disqualify you because you have experience in another field of work. You will then have to prove you cannot work your former career either.

Once accepted they put you into one of three categories. The first is the likelihood of you being able to return to work. They review your records and improvements every six months to a year and make a decision whether you can go back to work or not. Category 2 is where they review your records every three or four years. Category 3 is when your situation is hopeless because it will never get better, but they still review your records every seven years. I was placed in category 3. Even if they reviewed my records in seven years and decided I could go back to work, I'd be on SS retirement anyway.



Yes, Vox, the lying machine of the left. That aside, just because the suspects were black doesn't make it racist to think they were guilty. You don't know what racist means.



Yes they did when Trump first got in. He had to clean up DumBama's mess and that took time. Once Trump got control over the situation, the killing stopped. In fact not one dead American in his last 18 months.



Oh bullshit. You tried that "timeline" crap when Hussein fucked up Iraq so badly. Keep blaming other people for your idiots mistakes. Hussein was completely responsible for the Iraq disaster. Biden is completely responsible for the Afghanistan disaster. Learn how to take some responsibility once in a great while. Who knows, if you start doing that, maybe you'll become a Republican.
Both SSD (disabled workers who have 40 quarters of work under Social Security) and SSI (disable and who don't meet Social Security qualifications) are both difficult to get qualified, particularly SSI. I have been trying for over a year and a half to get my granddaughter who is schizophrenic qualified. She has received two checks and Social Security said she was not qualified and return the checks, so we did. We called Social Security and they said she was medically qualified but needs a phone interview. How the hell do you do a phone interview with someone who talks to ghosts and only giggles when you talk to her. Social Security just called and wanted to know why we returned the checks.
 
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Also, we don't think being stupid, brainwashed and herd-following, like most antivaxxers, should be a death sentence. We're trying to save antivaxxer lives, even if they are wanting to kill us in return. We're brave and generous that way.
No, you're just trying to control people.

You cannot help people who have not asked for help. If you do, you aren't helping, you're a control freak.

Please mind your own business.
 
I'm sure they can... but you are kind of making my point for me. Covid is ONLY still a problem because red state idiots refuse to take precautions.
!! Covid is a problem epidemic because the vaccines don't work. Nor does anything else, like masks or mandates. And it's a severe disease. The news is daily full of senators, political figures, everybody getting Covid and often dying of it ----------- although they were vaccinated with the worthless vaccine. And wore masks.

None of it WORKS. Probably Biden should stop ordering everyone around for no good reason.
 

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