North Carolina Draws Clear Line in the Sand on LGBT "Transgender" Delusionals.

[WinterBorn]

It's absolutely stunning that a law would even need to be discussed, let along signed by a Governor, to force people to use the restroom that corresponds to their biological sex. This is an obvious one people. If you have a package hanging between your legs you use the men's room.

Really? So when this person walks into the Women's Room, your wife won't come unglued?

And the NC law is not about what someone has between their legs. It is about what is on their birth certificate.

Who is going to check??

Yes. Who is doing the checking up on people's genitals?

Funny thing is, there are uni-sex bathrooms all over and no one has a problem with them.

I DO have a problem with nutters creeping around, peeking at people's parts though.

I still didn't get an answer for you. How is it discrimination by asking people to relieve themselves in the restroom that corresponds to their biological parts?

Is that what the NC law requires? Or is it by gender on their birth certificate?

And who will be checking the "biological parts"?

Why are you avoiding the question? How is is discrimination? Explain it to me.

I am avoiding nothing. The question is ridiculous. The fact that you think genitalia is the sum total of gender is telling.

There are any number of people with the generals of one gender, and the rest of their body is that of another.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No, it's typical of most on the right to fear diversity, seek to punish dissent, and compel conformity through force of law.

It's typical of the left to attack civil society. Sending men into public restrooms with little girls has one possible outcome, to create conflict and tear down the foundations that make society function. That is the purpose of this, and most of the anti-social shit the left engages in.

C_Coward, you are a fool and a mindless buffoon. You will run and hide in a corner, pissing yourself in fear because your intellectual superior challenged the mindless shit you posted.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I am avoiding nothing. The question is ridiculous. The fact that you think genitalia is the sum total of gender is telling.

There are any number of people with the generals of one gender, and the rest of their body is that of another.

Not naturally. Only through surgery and heavy steroid uses is the person you highlight possible.

 

[Skylar]

And as South Caroline's own Attorney General admitted, the law is a 'national embarassment' for the State. And he won't defend anyone under that law:

One day after civil liberties groups filed suit to fight a controversial “bathroom bill” in North Carolina that they say discriminates against the LGBT community, state Attorney General Roy Cooper announced that he would not defend its constitutionality.

“We should not even be here today, but we are. We’re here because the governor has signed statewide legislation that puts discrimination into the law,” Cooper told reporters in Raleigh Tuesday.

According to Cooper, House Bill 2 (HB2) is in direct conflict with nondiscrimination policies at North Carolina’s justice department and treasurer’s office, as well as many of the state’s businesses. Though the LGBT community is targeted, he said, it could ultimately result in the discrimination of other groups as well.

“House Bill 2 is unconstitutional,” he said. “Therefore, our office will not represent the defendants in this lawsuit, nor future lawsuits involving the constitutionality of House Bill 2.”

North Carolina attorney general won’t defend transgender law: It’s a ‘national embarrassment’

When your own State's Attorney General rejects the newly passed law as unconstitutional, you know you've got quite a piece of legislative horseshit.

What's unconstitutional is passing a law that tells a private business that they can't operate gender specific restrooms on their own property.

It targets LGBT folks specifically for discrimination. Read Romer v. Evans for why that will be....problematic.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Is that what the NC law requires? Or is it by gender on their birth certificate?

And who will be checking the "biological parts"?

The number of people who support their mental illness with surgery is minute, to the point of statistical irrelevancy.

The law is intended for men who declare themselves women, who may take hormones to grow breasts, but are still male. You know, the Bruce Jenner types.

It's not "brave," it's mental illness.

 

[WinterBorn]

I am avoiding nothing. The question is ridiculous. The fact that you think genitalia is the sum total of gender is telling.

There are any number of people with the generals of one gender, and the rest of their body is that of another.

Not naturally. Only through surgery and heavy steroid uses is the person you highlight possible.

And? So public restrooms should only be for those without any surgical or hormonal therapies?

 

[WinterBorn]

Is that what the NC law requires? Or is it by gender on their birth certificate?

And who will be checking the "biological parts"?

The number of people who support their mental illness with surgery is minute, to the point of statistical irrelevancy.

The law is intended for men who declare themselves women, who may take hormones to grow breasts, but are still male. You know, the Bruce Jenner types.

It's not "brave," it's mental illness.

I'm guessing you have been in a few public restrooms in your life. How many times have you seen anyone's genitals?

 

[Uncensored2008]

And? So public restrooms should only be for those without any surgical or hormonal therapies?

Law should be crafted for the benefit of those who alter nature to the determent of those who do not?

This is a frontal assault on civil society.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

And as South Caroline's own Attorney General admitted, the law is a 'national embarassment' for the State. And he won't defend anyone under that law:

One day after civil liberties groups filed suit to fight a controversial “bathroom bill” in North Carolina that they say discriminates against the LGBT community, state Attorney General Roy Cooper announced that he would not defend its constitutionality.

“We should not even be here today, but we are. We’re here because the governor has signed statewide legislation that puts discrimination into the law,” Cooper told reporters in Raleigh Tuesday.

According to Cooper, House Bill 2 (HB2) is in direct conflict with nondiscrimination policies at North Carolina’s justice department and treasurer’s office, as well as many of the state’s businesses. Though the LGBT community is targeted, he said, it could ultimately result in the discrimination of other groups as well.

“House Bill 2 is unconstitutional,” he said. “Therefore, our office will not represent the defendants in this lawsuit, nor future lawsuits involving the constitutionality of House Bill 2.”

North Carolina attorney general won’t defend transgender law: It’s a ‘national embarrassment’

When your own State's Attorney General rejects the newly passed law as unconstitutional, you know you've got quite a piece of legislative horseshit.

What's unconstitutional is passing a law that tells a private business that they can't operate gender specific restrooms on their own property.

It targets LGBT folks specifically for discrimination. Read Romer v. Evans for why that will be....problematic.

No it doesn't. Men use men's facilities and women uses women's facilities. It's that simple.

 

[Mertex]

You couldn't pay me to move to New York. commie dictators runs the place

You can't afford to move to New York.....Welfare doesn't cover moving people. You have the dictators in NC....running the place.

 

[Silhouette]

And? So public restrooms should only be for those without any surgical or hormonal therapies?

WinterBorn, gonna spell this one out for you plainly and clearly. This move by NC is the beginning of the end to your cult's delusions of power over others. You may engage in distorting reality to and beyond its limits, but when you insist that the rest of us do BY LAW, BY GOD! that's when the game is O-V-E-R.

Game over. Let that sink in.. You can drug yourself up and hack yourselves up, but when you insist that destruction of your born gender becomes "everyone's reality", that's when the buck stops. It's over. Pack it up and go home. Johns Hopkins and NC have spoken. BTW, they've declared it's also child abuse to coerce a child into "gender change". There will be a more formal announcement on that this June. But for now, understand that your taking over the American Psychological Association by force back in the 1970s &80s and removing yourselves from the DSM, and "disappearing" the Leona Tyler principle from the APA (the mandate that all public positions must be backed by science and not mere cultspeak) isn't going to get you one step further on this transgender delusion.

It's over. If you have XY DNA and have the male junk you're a dude for life. If you have XX DNA and female junk, you're a gal for life. That's it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm guessing you have been in a few public restrooms in your life. How many times have you seen anyone's genitals?

I haven't counted. Pretty much every time. Lines of urinals are the norm in mens rooms. Have you ever been in one?

You know, the mens' room, where a bunch of dicks hang out....

 

[Skylar]

And as South Caroline's own Attorney General admitted, the law is a 'national embarassment' for the State. And he won't defend anyone under that law:

One day after civil liberties groups filed suit to fight a controversial “bathroom bill” in North Carolina that they say discriminates against the LGBT community, state Attorney General Roy Cooper announced that he would not defend its constitutionality.

“We should not even be here today, but we are. We’re here because the governor has signed statewide legislation that puts discrimination into the law,” Cooper told reporters in Raleigh Tuesday.

According to Cooper, House Bill 2 (HB2) is in direct conflict with nondiscrimination policies at North Carolina’s justice department and treasurer’s office, as well as many of the state’s businesses. Though the LGBT community is targeted, he said, it could ultimately result in the discrimination of other groups as well.

“House Bill 2 is unconstitutional,” he said. “Therefore, our office will not represent the defendants in this lawsuit, nor future lawsuits involving the constitutionality of House Bill 2.”

North Carolina attorney general won’t defend transgender law: It’s a ‘national embarrassment’

When your own State's Attorney General rejects the newly passed law as unconstitutional, you know you've got quite a piece of legislative horseshit.

What's unconstitutional is passing a law that tells a private business that they can't operate gender specific restrooms on their own property.

It targets LGBT folks specifically for discrimination. Read Romer v. Evans for why that will be....problematic.

No it doesn't. Men use men's facilities and women uses women's facilities. It's that simple.

Even the Attorney General of the State of South Carolina doesn't buy your narrative. It was created with the explicit intent of targeting LGBT folks for discrimination.

It isn't being defended in South Carolina. And its unlikely to do well in the Federal Courts either.

 

[Skylar]

And? So public restrooms should only be for those without any surgical or hormonal therapies?

WinterBorn, gonna spell this one out for you plainly and clearly. This move by NC is the beginning of the end to your cult's delusions of power over others. You may engage in distorting reality to and beyond its limits, but when you insist that the rest of us do BY LAW, BY GOD! that's when the game is O-V-E-R.

Didn't you say that the Kennedy's stay of federal court ruling requiring Utah to recognnize same sex marriage was the 'beginning of the end' for same sex marriage?

Didn't you say that the Obergefell ruling was going to be against same sex marriage and it was the 'beginning of the end' for the institution?

Did you say that Alabama chief justice's judicial order to ignore the obergefell ruling was the 'beginning of the end' for same sex marriage?

Didn't you insist that the lawsuits against Ted Cruz's eligibility was the 'beginning of the end' for his presidential run?

How'd that all work out again? Ah yes. You were laughably, comically, predictably wrong.

Let that sink in: you've never once made a legal prediction that ever panned out. Not once. Every single time you've told us how a legal outcome was going to go, you've been wrong.

Your record of failure of predicting legal outcomes is....perfect. But this time its different, huh?

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

And as South Caroline's own Attorney General admitted, the law is a 'national embarassment' for the State. And he won't defend anyone under that law:

One day after civil liberties groups filed suit to fight a controversial “bathroom bill” in North Carolina that they say discriminates against the LGBT community, state Attorney General Roy Cooper announced that he would not defend its constitutionality.

“We should not even be here today, but we are. We’re here because the governor has signed statewide legislation that puts discrimination into the law,” Cooper told reporters in Raleigh Tuesday.

According to Cooper, House Bill 2 (HB2) is in direct conflict with nondiscrimination policies at North Carolina’s justice department and treasurer’s office, as well as many of the state’s businesses. Though the LGBT community is targeted, he said, it could ultimately result in the discrimination of other groups as well.

“House Bill 2 is unconstitutional,” he said. “Therefore, our office will not represent the defendants in this lawsuit, nor future lawsuits involving the constitutionality of House Bill 2.”

North Carolina attorney general won’t defend transgender law: It’s a ‘national embarrassment’

When your own State's Attorney General rejects the newly passed law as unconstitutional, you know you've got quite a piece of legislative horseshit.

What's unconstitutional is passing a law that tells a private business that they can't operate gender specific restrooms on their own property.

It targets LGBT folks specifically for discrimination. Read Romer v. Evans for why that will be....problematic.

No it doesn't. Men use men's facilities and women uses women's facilities. It's that simple.

Even the Attorney General of the State of South Carolina doesn't buy your narrative. It was created with the explicit intent of targeting LGBT folks for discrimination.

It isn't being defended in South Carolina. And its unlikely to do well in the Federal Courts either.

I don't give a shit what he said. Making a man use the men's restroom isn't discrimination. It's fucking stupid to say that it is.

 

[Skylar]

And as South Caroline's own Attorney General admitted, the law is a 'national embarassment' for the State. And he won't defend anyone under that law:

When your own State's Attorney General rejects the newly passed law as unconstitutional, you know you've got quite a piece of legislative horseshit.

What's unconstitutional is passing a law that tells a private business that they can't operate gender specific restrooms on their own property.

It targets LGBT folks specifically for discrimination. Read Romer v. Evans for why that will be....problematic.

No it doesn't. Men use men's facilities and women uses women's facilities. It's that simple.

Even the Attorney General of the State of South Carolina doesn't buy your narrative. It was created with the explicit intent of targeting LGBT folks for discrimination.

It isn't being defended in South Carolina. And its unlikely to do well in the Federal Courts either.

I don't give a shit what he said. Making a man use the men's restroom isn't discrimination. It's fucking stupid to say that it is.

You should. He's the one making the decisions on whether not the State defends people under the law.

And his voice is going to be a powerful condemnation in federal court. When the AG of the very state that created the law denounces it as unconstitutional and unenforceable......that doesn't bode well for that law's future.

'National embarrassment' should about cover it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The thing that stands out very clearly in this thread is that the people who drafted this law did not really give much thought to the consequences of it.
And the people who are backing it are confused as to what they want.
It says to me that there is a need to demystify this issue so that people know the facts rather than the saloon bar innuendo that they are basing their opinions on.
It is tempting, but not really fair, to make fun of know nothings who are driven by fear and ignorance.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

What's unconstitutional is passing a law that tells a private business that they can't operate gender specific restrooms on their own property.

It targets LGBT folks specifically for discrimination. Read Romer v. Evans for why that will be....problematic.

No it doesn't. Men use men's facilities and women uses women's facilities. It's that simple.

Even the Attorney General of the State of South Carolina doesn't buy your narrative. It was created with the explicit intent of targeting LGBT folks for discrimination.

It isn't being defended in South Carolina. And its unlikely to do well in the Federal Courts either.

I don't give a shit what he said. Making a man use the men's restroom isn't discrimination. It's fucking stupid to say that it is.

You should. He's the one making the decisions on whether not the State defends people under the law.

And his voice is going to be a powerful condemnation in federal court. When the AG of the very state that created the law denounces it as unconstitutional and unenforceable......that doesn't bode well for that law's future.

'National embarrassment' should about cover it.

Nowhere is it written that men have legal protection to use the women's restroom.

 

[Katzndogz]

Women who are in the men's restroom are trolling for sex. That's how they should be treated.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

The thing that stands out very clearly in this thread is that the people who drafted this law did not really give much thought to the consequences of it.
And the people who are backing it are confused as to what they want.
It says to me that there is a need to demystify this issue so that people know the facts rather than the saloon bar innuendo that they are basing their opinions on.
It is tempting, but not really fair, to make fun of know nothings who are driven by fear and ignorance.

What are the concequences?