Nobody doubts the M4 is an assault weapon. Are there any material differences between an M4 and an AR15?

[BULLDOG]

I have plenty of rifles and shotguns for hunting and a couple of pistols. I'm good.

.

Shit ... I'll hunt deer with a Patriot-Vortex .308 bolt action, but the Custom AR-15 style 7.62 x 39 with a infa-red scope is a hell of a lot better for hunting hogs.
Not to mention I wouldn't want to be on the bleeding end of either one of them in a tactical combat situation.

But screw it ... If you are happy with what you have, and don't have any concerns about what I have, then we are good to go ...

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I live in east Texas, so I usually use a Winchester 30-30, but I have a .270 for the few times I have been able to go to west Texas. Deer meat is waaaaaay too expensive on those hunting leases. A 12 gauge 870 Remington, and an 8gauge that was my grandfathers with a barrel that looks to be about 5 ft long for geese (really 36"), and a 410 that I got for Christmas when I was about 8 or 9. A 32 pistol that I am afraid to shoot, and a 38 snub nose Rossi.
I don't have a problem with guns. I have a problem with idiots that oppose reasonable regulation of guns.

Wonderful. But many have a problem with those idiots who do not understand enough to know what is/is not reasonable regulation of guns. I imagine everyone here has no problem with reasonable regulation such as restrictions on violent felons. But many have a very substantial problem giving up civil rights because of the paranoia of those who are unwilling to inform themselves. In my opinion Your rifles and shotguns are every bit as deadly as any assault rifle ever made.

Are background checks reasonable? Do you think you should be able to sell a gun to a stranger without a background check, and not even know his name, much less whether he can legally own a gun?

 

[BlackSand]

Are background checks reasonable? Do you think you should be able to sell a gun to a stranger without a background check, and not even know his name, much less whether he can legally own a gun?

.

I told you ... I don't give a rat's as about background checks.
That means I don't care if you or anyone else thinks they are reasonable, because they are irrelevant in regards to straw purchases.

Anyone with criminal intent can have someone else that can pass a Background Check purchase them a firearm.
If they have the intent to break the law, it doesn't matter if you write a ******* law.

It's unreasonable to think someone who is going to break the law, cannot find a way to circumvent any law they pass.
I am just going to grumble, do everything I can legally do to ensure I have whatever I want, and shake my head at the ignorance people believe.

Edit:
I am not trying to be ugly, but you may begin to see why it is so frustrating.


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[progressive hunter]

The M4 is the main rifle used by the US military, and no one could question that it is an assault rifle. The M4 is capable of full automatic fire, and 3 round burst, and the AR15 is not. Of course, it would be illegal, but the AR15 can easily be converted to allow those types of fire. Other than that difference, what makes an M4 an assault weapon, and an AR15 not?

dont worry yourself,,
the 2nd A was specific for weapons of war so the M-4 is perfectly fine for personal ownership,,

 

[9thIDdoc]

I have plenty of rifles and shotguns for hunting and a couple of pistols. I'm good.

.

Shit ... I'll hunt deer with a Patriot-Vortex .308 bolt action, but the Custom AR-15 style 7.62 x 39 with a infa-red scope is a hell of a lot better for hunting hogs.
Not to mention I wouldn't want to be on the bleeding end of either one of them in a tactical combat situation.

But screw it ... If you are happy with what you have, and don't have any concerns about what I have, then we are good to go ...

.​

I live in east Texas, so I usually use a Winchester 30-30, but I have a .270 for the few times I have been able to go to west Texas. Deer meat is waaaaaay too expensive on those hunting leases. A 12 gauge 870 Remington, and an 8gauge that was my grandfathers with a barrel that looks to be about 5 ft long for geese (really 36"), and a 410 that I got for Christmas when I was about 8 or 9. A 32 pistol that I am afraid to shoot, and a 38 snub nose Rossi.
I don't have a problem with guns. I have a problem with idiots that oppose reasonable regulation of guns.

Wonderful. But many have a problem with those idiots who do not understand enough to know what is/is not reasonable regulation of guns. I imagine everyone here has no problem with reasonable regulation such as restrictions on violent felons. But many have a very substantial problem giving up civil rights because of the paranoia of those who are unwilling to inform themselves. In my opinion Your rifles and shotguns are every bit as deadly as any assault rifle ever made.

Are background checks reasonable? Do you think you should be able to sell a gun to a stranger without a background check, and not even know his name, much less whether he can legally own a gun?

I'm all for background checks if they are accurate, conducted in a timely manner, and do not disqualify people without good reason. Also they provide no deterrent if those who attempt to fraudulently buy guns are not prosecuted and that is often lacking. The only problem I have with background checks is that they can disqualify people without good cause if they are allowed to do so and that must not be allowed.

 

[BlackSand]

I'm all for background checks if they are accurate, conducted in a timely manner, and do not disqualify people without good reason. Also they provide no deterrent if those who attempt to fraudulently buy guns are not prosecuted and that is often lacking. The only problem I have with background checks is that they can disqualify people without good cause if they are allowed to do so and that must not be allowed.

.

I only got a NICS Number because someone with a similar (not identical) name in the region had a felony conviction for hot checks.
Every time I would go to purchase a firearm, the computer would kick it back with a Hold ... Not a Denial.
Then I would have to wait up to two weeks for the ATF to do a more accurate search, and tell me I was Clear.

I got sick and tired of that ... And paid the extra money necessary to never worry about that shit again.

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[AZrailwhale]

The M4 is the main rifle used by the US military, and no one could question that it is an assault rifle. The M4 is capable of full automatic fire, and 3 round burst, and the AR15 is not. Of course, it would be illegal, but the AR15 can easily be converted to allow those types of fire. Other than that difference, what makes an M4 an assault weapon, and an AR15 not?

The M4 is the main rifle used by the US military, and no one could question that it is an assault rifle. The M4 is capable of full automatic fire, and 3 round burst, and the AR15 is not. Of course, it would be illegal, but the AR15 can easily be converted to allow those types of fire. Other than that difference, what makes an M4 an assault weapon, and an AR15 not?

The lower receiver on the AR15 is designed to NOT be easily converted to full auto or burst. It takes a skilled machinist With a good shop to do the job.

 

[BULLDOG]

I have plenty of rifles and shotguns for hunting and a couple of pistols. I'm good.

.

Shit ... I'll hunt deer with a Patriot-Vortex .308 bolt action, but the Custom AR-15 style 7.62 x 39 with a infa-red scope is a hell of a lot better for hunting hogs.
Not to mention I wouldn't want to be on the bleeding end of either one of them in a tactical combat situation.

But screw it ... If you are happy with what you have, and don't have any concerns about what I have, then we are good to go ...

.​

I live in east Texas, so I usually use a Winchester 30-30, but I have a .270 for the few times I have been able to go to west Texas. Deer meat is waaaaaay too expensive on those hunting leases. A 12 gauge 870 Remington, and an 8gauge that was my grandfathers with a barrel that looks to be about 5 ft long for geese (really 36"), and a 410 that I got for Christmas when I was about 8 or 9. A 32 pistol that I am afraid to shoot, and a 38 snub nose Rossi.
I don't have a problem with guns. I have a problem with idiots that oppose reasonable regulation of guns.

Wonderful. But many have a problem with those idiots who do not understand enough to know what is/is not reasonable regulation of guns. I imagine everyone here has no problem with reasonable regulation such as restrictions on violent felons. But many have a very substantial problem giving up civil rights because of the paranoia of those who are unwilling to inform themselves. In my opinion Your rifles and shotguns are every bit as deadly as any assault rifle ever made.

Are background checks reasonable? Do you think you should be able to sell a gun to a stranger without a background check, and not even know his name, much less whether he can legally own a gun?

I'm all for background checks if they are accurate, conducted in a timely manner, and do not disqualify people without good reason. Also they provide no deterrent if those who attempt to fraudulently buy guns are not prosecuted and that is often lacking. The only problem I have with background checks is that they can disqualify people without good cause if they are allowed to do so and that must not be allowed.

Do you think background checks from FFL sellers are mostly accurate, conducted in a timely manner? We both know there will be an occasional **** up, but lets not nit pick it.

 

[BlackSand]

Do you think background checks from FFL sellers are mostly accurate, conducted in a timely manner? We both know there will be an occasional **** up, but lets not nit pick it.

.

When you are prepared to spend a bunch of money to get a National Citizenship Number ...
Scan your ID, fill out a questionnaire, and punch in your number, every time, before they hand you a ballot so you can exercise your Right to Vote ...
Then we can talk about what you may or may not think is reasonable or agree with in regards to a Background Check.

If you're not interested in the hassle and cost of that ... Go Pound Sand ...

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[BULLDOG]

The M4 is the main rifle used by the US military, and no one could question that it is an assault rifle. The M4 is capable of full automatic fire, and 3 round burst, and the AR15 is not. Of course, it would be illegal, but the AR15 can easily be converted to allow those types of fire. Other than that difference, what makes an M4 an assault weapon, and an AR15 not?

The M4 is the main rifle used by the US military, and no one could question that it is an assault rifle. The M4 is capable of full automatic fire, and 3 round burst, and the AR15 is not. Of course, it would be illegal, but the AR15 can easily be converted to allow those types of fire. Other than that difference, what makes an M4 an assault weapon, and an AR15 not?

The lower receiver on the AR15 is designed to NOT be easily converted to full auto or burst. It takes a skilled machinist With a good shop to do the job.

This guy seems to be able to do a pretty good job with a vice, a jig and a hand router. It would take a different jig, and it probably wouldn't be as pretty as a good machine shop, but it works.

 

[9thIDdoc]

I have plenty of rifles and shotguns for hunting and a couple of pistols. I'm good.

.

Shit ... I'll hunt deer with a Patriot-Vortex .308 bolt action, but the Custom AR-15 style 7.62 x 39 with a infa-red scope is a hell of a lot better for hunting hogs.
Not to mention I wouldn't want to be on the bleeding end of either one of them in a tactical combat situation.

But screw it ... If you are happy with what you have, and don't have any concerns about what I have, then we are good to go ...

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I live in east Texas, so I usually use a Winchester 30-30, but I have a .270 for the few times I have been able to go to west Texas. Deer meat is waaaaaay too expensive on those hunting leases. A 12 gauge 870 Remington, and an 8gauge that was my grandfathers with a barrel that looks to be about 5 ft long for geese (really 36"), and a 410 that I got for Christmas when I was about 8 or 9. A 32 pistol that I am afraid to shoot, and a 38 snub nose Rossi.
I don't have a problem with guns. I have a problem with idiots that oppose reasonable regulation of guns.

Wonderful. But many have a problem with those idiots who do not understand enough to know what is/is not reasonable regulation of guns. I imagine everyone here has no problem with reasonable regulation such as restrictions on violent felons. But many have a very substantial problem giving up civil rights because of the paranoia of those who are unwilling to inform themselves. In my opinion Your rifles and shotguns are every bit as deadly as any assault rifle ever made.

Are background checks reasonable? Do you think you should be able to sell a gun to a stranger without a background check, and not even know his name, much less whether he can legally own a gun?

I'm all for background checks if they are accurate, conducted in a timely manner, and do not disqualify people without good reason. Also they provide no deterrent if those who attempt to fraudulently buy guns are not prosecuted and that is often lacking. The only problem I have with background checks is that they can disqualify people without good cause if they are allowed to do so and that must not be allowed.

Do you think background checks from FFL sellers are mostly accurate, conducted in a timely manner? We both know there will be an occasional **** up, but lets not nit pick it.

It's my understanding that the FFL sellers do not do the actual check but that it is done using a government database by government for a fee. I am OK with it as it stands in my area. But there is nothing to stop government from suddenly demanding a hugh increase in fee that the average person could not afford. Or disqualifying people for frivolous reasons.

 

[BULLDOG]

Do you think background checks from FFL sellers are mostly accurate, conducted in a timely manner? We both know there will be an occasional **** up, but lets not nit pick it.

.

When you are prepared to spend a bunch of money to get a National Citizenship Number ...
Scan your ID, fill out a questionnaire, and punch in your number, every time, before they hand you a ballot so you can exercise your Right to Vote ...
Then we can talk about what you may or may not think is reasonable or agree with in regards to a Background Check.

If you're not interested in the hassle and cost of that ... Go Pound Sand ...

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National Citizenship Number? You know that's nuts, right? No problem. I got it. You're through with a rational discussion, and are headed back to conspiracy theory land. Have a nice trip.

 

[BULLDOG]

I have plenty of rifles and shotguns for hunting and a couple of pistols. I'm good.

.

Shit ... I'll hunt deer with a Patriot-Vortex .308 bolt action, but the Custom AR-15 style 7.62 x 39 with a infa-red scope is a hell of a lot better for hunting hogs.
Not to mention I wouldn't want to be on the bleeding end of either one of them in a tactical combat situation.

But screw it ... If you are happy with what you have, and don't have any concerns about what I have, then we are good to go ...

.​

I live in east Texas, so I usually use a Winchester 30-30, but I have a .270 for the few times I have been able to go to west Texas. Deer meat is waaaaaay too expensive on those hunting leases. A 12 gauge 870 Remington, and an 8gauge that was my grandfathers with a barrel that looks to be about 5 ft long for geese (really 36"), and a 410 that I got for Christmas when I was about 8 or 9. A 32 pistol that I am afraid to shoot, and a 38 snub nose Rossi.
I don't have a problem with guns. I have a problem with idiots that oppose reasonable regulation of guns.

Wonderful. But many have a problem with those idiots who do not understand enough to know what is/is not reasonable regulation of guns. I imagine everyone here has no problem with reasonable regulation such as restrictions on violent felons. But many have a very substantial problem giving up civil rights because of the paranoia of those who are unwilling to inform themselves. In my opinion Your rifles and shotguns are every bit as deadly as any assault rifle ever made.

Are background checks reasonable? Do you think you should be able to sell a gun to a stranger without a background check, and not even know his name, much less whether he can legally own a gun?

I'm all for background checks if they are accurate, conducted in a timely manner, and do not disqualify people without good reason. Also they provide no deterrent if those who attempt to fraudulently buy guns are not prosecuted and that is often lacking. The only problem I have with background checks is that they can disqualify people without good cause if they are allowed to do so and that must not be allowed.

Do you think background checks from FFL sellers are mostly accurate, conducted in a timely manner? We both know there will be an occasional **** up, but lets not nit pick it.

It's my understanding that the FFL sellers do not do the actual check but that it is done using a government database by government for a fee. I am OK with it as it stands in my area. But there is nothing to stop government from suddenly demanding a hugh increase in fee that the average person could not afford. Or disqualifying people for frivolous reasons.

You are correct. Dealers don't do the actual check.
There's not a lot to prevent a lot of bad stuff that we might think of, but there is no reason to believe those things will actually happen.
If you are OK with the way background checks work, why wouldn't you think background checks conducted through licensed dealers for individual sales would be OK? Same checks conducted the same way.

 

[BlackSand]

National Citizenship Number? You know that's nuts, right? No problem. I got it. You're through with a rational discussion, and are headed back to conspiracy theory land. Have a nice trip.

.

Well if you pay the extra money you can get a National Instant Criminal Background Check System Number (NICS Number) ...
Scan your ID, fill out a questionnaire, and punch in your number before they hand you a firearm so you can exercise your Right to Bear Arms.

If you aren't willing to apply the same standard towards your Right to Vote ... You are dismissed, and you can Go Pound Sand.
I knew you couldn't find a rational response you would be satisfied with in response to that ...

The Rights listed in the Bill of Rights aren't granted by the Federal Government.
If the Federal Government has the ability to regulate those Rights, then it would still be rational if you applied similar regulations to all your Rights.
No one would be telling you who you could vote for, or denying your Right to Vote in a timely manner.

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[9thIDdoc]

I have plenty of rifles and shotguns for hunting and a couple of pistols. I'm good.

.

Shit ... I'll hunt deer with a Patriot-Vortex .308 bolt action, but the Custom AR-15 style 7.62 x 39 with a infa-red scope is a hell of a lot better for hunting hogs.
Not to mention I wouldn't want to be on the bleeding end of either one of them in a tactical combat situation.

But screw it ... If you are happy with what you have, and don't have any concerns about what I have, then we are good to go ...

.​

I live in east Texas, so I usually use a Winchester 30-30, but I have a .270 for the few times I have been able to go to west Texas. Deer meat is waaaaaay too expensive on those hunting leases. A 12 gauge 870 Remington, and an 8gauge that was my grandfathers with a barrel that looks to be about 5 ft long for geese (really 36"), and a 410 that I got for Christmas when I was about 8 or 9. A 32 pistol that I am afraid to shoot, and a 38 snub nose Rossi.
I don't have a problem with guns. I have a problem with idiots that oppose reasonable regulation of guns.

Wonderful. But many have a problem with those idiots who do not understand enough to know what is/is not reasonable regulation of guns. I imagine everyone here has no problem with reasonable regulation such as restrictions on violent felons. But many have a very substantial problem giving up civil rights because of the paranoia of those who are unwilling to inform themselves. In my opinion Your rifles and shotguns are every bit as deadly as any assault rifle ever made.

Are background checks reasonable? Do you think you should be able to sell a gun to a stranger without a background check, and not even know his name, much less whether he can legally own a gun?

I'm all for background checks if they are accurate, conducted in a timely manner, and do not disqualify people without good reason. Also they provide no deterrent if those who attempt to fraudulently buy guns are not prosecuted and that is often lacking. The only problem I have with background checks is that they can disqualify people without good cause if they are allowed to do so and that must not be allowed.

Do you think background checks from FFL sellers are mostly accurate, conducted in a timely manner? We both know there will be an occasional **** up, but lets not nit pick it.

It's my understanding that the FFL sellers do not do the actual check but that it is done using a government database by government for a fee. I am OK with it as it stands in my area. But there is nothing to stop government from suddenly demanding a hugh increase in fee that the average person could not afford. Or disqualifying people for frivolous reasons.

You are correct. Dealers don't do the actual check.
There's not a lot to prevent a lot of bad stuff that we might think of, but there is no reason to believe those things will actually happen.
If you are OK with the way background checks work, why wouldn't you think background checks conducted through licensed dealers for individual sales would be OK? Same checks conducted the same way.

Also no reason to assume they won't.
If a person or establishment is selling a gun they are getting paid. Guns purchased out of state are required to be shipped to a FFL holder who charges a fee for their time and trouble. I have no doubt they would charge a fee for signing off on a background check. I have wished to buy guns for parts to use to enhance guns I already have or am working on. I have intended to buy a parts gun for $20 but was told I would have to pay an additional $20 for the background check despite the fact I had just had a background check for another gun. I have run into hard times and pawned guns then was required to pay for a background check to recover each gun even though they already belonged to me. Why should I have to pay someone else to be allowed to give a friend or relative a gift? Sometimes it is about the money and inconvenience. If a gun is worth $20 it may not be worth $40.

 

[westwall]

Background checks? Do you oppose them?

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I have an NICS Number ... I don't give a rat's ass about Background Checks,
Nor do I have a problem handing any dealer money for a firearm and walking out the door with it as soon as ...
They scan my ID, I answer a few questions on the computer, and they give me change if necessary.

You see ... The assclowns on the Beltway are never going to make it so they cannot get whatever they want. whenever they want.
They may try to make it more expensive and cumbersome for the law-abiding American Citizen to exercise their Constitutionally Protected Rights ...
But they are never going to stop a criminal from utilizing straw purchases or breaking the law.

Those folks in the Banana Republic on Capitol Hill will tell you they are doing something good ...
When all they are really ever accomplishing is selling more guns.
Look up the numbers ... The ATF is approving over 3 million Federal Background Checks for new firearm purchases a month ...
And you think that makes a damn bit of difference as to where those guns are going, and who ends up with what?

That would be a bit of a Polly-Anna view of how effective gun control actually is ...

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You don't think increased gun sales are mostly because all the hysterics about everybody's guns being confiscated, or for the hard core crazies, the hope for a real civil war?

No, it's mainly Democrats who are scared to death after watching their leadership turn their cities over to the mob.

We all have everything we need, and have for decades.

 

[westwall]

I have plenty of rifles and shotguns for hunting and a couple of pistols. I'm good.

.

Shit ... I'll hunt deer with a Patriot-Vortex .308 bolt action, but the Custom AR-15 style 7.62 x 39 with a infa-red scope is a hell of a lot better for hunting hogs.
Not to mention I wouldn't want to be on the bleeding end of either one of them in a tactical combat situation.

But screw it ... If you are happy with what you have, and don't have any concerns about what I have, then we are good to go ...

.​

I live in east Texas, so I usually use a Winchester 30-30, but I have a .270 for the few times I have been able to go to west Texas. Deer meat is waaaaaay too expensive on those hunting leases. A 12 gauge 870 Remington, and an 8gauge that was my grandfathers with a barrel that looks to be about 5 ft long for geese (really 36"), and a 410 that I got for Christmas when I was about 8 or 9. A 32 pistol that I am afraid to shoot, and a 38 snub nose Rossi.
I don't have a problem with guns. I have a problem with idiots that oppose reasonable regulation of guns.

Wonderful. But many have a problem with those idiots who do not understand enough to know what is/is not reasonable regulation of guns. I imagine everyone here has no problem with reasonable regulation such as restrictions on violent felons. But many have a very substantial problem giving up civil rights because of the paranoia of those who are unwilling to inform themselves. In my opinion Your rifles and shotguns are every bit as deadly as any assault rifle ever made.

Are background checks reasonable? Do you think you should be able to sell a gun to a stranger without a background check, and not even know his name, much less whether he can legally own a gun?

I have no problem with a background check so long as there is no gun information involved. Want to make it happen. Pass a law that absolves any seller of any crime done with a weapon they sell so long as a background check is done.

 

[westwall]

I have plenty of rifles and shotguns for hunting and a couple of pistols. I'm good.

.

Shit ... I'll hunt deer with a Patriot-Vortex .308 bolt action, but the Custom AR-15 style 7.62 x 39 with a infa-red scope is a hell of a lot better for hunting hogs.
Not to mention I wouldn't want to be on the bleeding end of either one of them in a tactical combat situation.

But screw it ... If you are happy with what you have, and don't have any concerns about what I have, then we are good to go ...

.​

I live in east Texas, so I usually use a Winchester 30-30, but I have a .270 for the few times I have been able to go to west Texas. Deer meat is waaaaaay too expensive on those hunting leases. A 12 gauge 870 Remington, and an 8gauge that was my grandfathers with a barrel that looks to be about 5 ft long for geese (really 36"), and a 410 that I got for Christmas when I was about 8 or 9. A 32 pistol that I am afraid to shoot, and a 38 snub nose Rossi.
I don't have a problem with guns. I have a problem with idiots that oppose reasonable regulation of guns.

Wonderful. But many have a problem with those idiots who do not understand enough to know what is/is not reasonable regulation of guns. I imagine everyone here has no problem with reasonable regulation such as restrictions on violent felons. But many have a very substantial problem giving up civil rights because of the paranoia of those who are unwilling to inform themselves. In my opinion Your rifles and shotguns are every bit as deadly as any assault rifle ever made.

Are background checks reasonable? Do you think you should be able to sell a gun to a stranger without a background check, and not even know his name, much less whether he can legally own a gun?

I'm all for background checks if they are accurate, conducted in a timely manner, and do not disqualify people without good reason. Also they provide no deterrent if those who attempt to fraudulently buy guns are not prosecuted and that is often lacking. The only problem I have with background checks is that they can disqualify people without good cause if they are allowed to do so and that must not be allowed.

Do you think background checks from FFL sellers are mostly accurate, conducted in a timely manner? We both know there will be an occasional **** up, but lets not nit pick it.

No, they aren't.

 

[BlackSand]

I have no problem with a background check so long as there is no gun information involved. Want to make it happen. Pass a law that absolves any seller of any crime done with a weapon they sell so long as a background check is done.

.

Where I may not agree with everything you posted, I can at least give you credit for thinking about things rationally.
I also have to thank you for actually thinking of a compromise where the gun control advocates would actually have something to bring to table in a compromise.
It's usually difficult to discuss things with gun control advocates, because they hardly ever have anything worthwhile to barter with in a compromise.

Good job ...

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[BlackSand]

You don't think increased gun sales are mostly because all the hysterics about everybody's guns being confiscated, or for the hard core crazies, the hope for a real civil war?

.

I think increased gun sales are the combination of a few things.

They reflect the desire for gun owners to purchase what they can before that opportunity may disappear.
They reflect the desire of Citizens to take advantage of more popular and easily available training opportunities.
They reflect both the rise in discretionary spending per household, and lower prices with better availability and a broader selection.
They reflect the desire of Citizens to feel more confident with their own ability to defend themselves from possible threats.

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[bigrebnc1775]

The M4 is the main rifle used by the US military, and no one could question that it is an assault rifle. The M4 is capable of full automatic fire, and 3 round burst, and the AR15 is not. Of course, it would be illegal, but the AR15 can easily be converted to allow those types of fire. Other than that difference, what makes an M4 an assault weapon, and an AR15 not?

So if it's so easy to convert an Armalite Rifle 15 into an automatic Rifle explain how it's done?

Most information on conversion has been removed from the internet, but I believe a lightning link is the quickest and easiest way. An auto sear is pretty straight forward too, but a little harder to make in your garage.

Full Auto for Any AR: How a Lightning Link Works

Commonly known as the “Lightning Link” the S.W.D., Inc.Auto Connector is a rarity to see these days.With fewer than 900 manufactured and registered in the NFA registry, the Lightning Links are a novel way to convert a semi-automatic AR-15 into a fully-automatic firearm.

www.thefirearmblog.com

you didn't read your source, did you?
"With fewer than 900 manufactured and registered in the NFA registry"
I posted that there are over 600 thousand automatic firearms in the public just like this they are all registered and limited access. So what is your gripe now?