No such thing as settled science or concensus

[EMH]

Great!

Then go find the answers. What are you doing, sitting there playing with yourself?

Go on! Git!

That you and your Co2 FRAUD cannot answer basic climate questions is like a major party Prez nominee refusing to release a platform or to hold a press conference....

The Co2 FRAUD is to science as Kamala is to "qualified Presidential candidate"

 

[Dante]

That you and your Co2 FRAUD cannot answer basic climate questions is like a major party Prez nominee refusing to release a platform or to hold a press conference....

The Co2 FRAUD is to science as Kamala is to "qualified Presidential candidate"

Uhm, News Flash:

Carbon Dioxide - Earth Indicator
Key Takeaway:
The amount of carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere has increased sharply in the past 100 years as measured from the ground and from satellites. Since carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, this increase has warmed the planet.

A t one time in your life, you did know about real science - right?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So, have any of you jumped off your roof yo see if uou fall up?

Ya know, since no science settler.

How about, sticking forks in your electrical outlets, to see if you can upend electromagnetic theory?

Report back.

 

[fncceo]

So, have any of you jumped off your roof yo see if uou fall up?

Despite the fact that we can very accurately predict the effects of gravity… we really don’t understand how it works.

When we understand gravity to the point where we can manipulate its effects, then “jumping up” might be an everyday occurrence.

 

[justoffal]

When I was a child I read a science book that said there was probably life on Mars.

Is that an example of "settled science"?

Yes

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Despite the fact that we can very accurately predict the effects of gravity… we really don’t understand how it works.

We dont have to understand how it works.

See: Effective Theory

Jump off your roof today? You're trying to shiw its not settled science, remember. Your example of "manipulating gravity" doesnt do that.

 

[EMH]

Since carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, this increase has warmed the planet.

Science is actually not just PARROTING.

It starts with theory.

Your theory is that adding CO2 to atmosphere warms Earth.

Next comes DATA, which is different than FUDGE.

What did the actual data from the satellites and balloons show?

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

Before the 2005 FUDGE JOB, the ACTUAL DATA was...


"satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling."


Translation from NBC - For more than three decades of rising atmospheric CO2, the highly correlated satellite and balloon ACTUAL unFUDGED DATA showed precisely NO WARMING in the atmosphere



Then there is Surface Air Pressure. All forms of air pressure are correlated with temperature. SAP is also a PLANETARY measure, not a local one. It gets THE WHOLE EARTH not just the surface of a growing urban area. If Earth was warming, SAP would be going up. IT isn't.


ALL THREE ACTUAL DATA SOURCES show precisely NO WARMING


THEORY REJECTED

 

[Dante]

Science is actually not just PARROTING.

It starts with theory.

Your theory is that adding CO2 to atmosphere warms Earth.

Next comes DATA, which is different than FUDGE.

What did the actual data from the satellites and balloons show?

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

Before the 2005 FUDGE JOB, the ACTUAL DATA was...


"satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling."


Translation from NBC - For more than three decades of rising atmospheric CO2, the highly correlated satellite and balloon ACTUAL unFUDGED DATA showed precisely NO WARMING in the atmosphere



Then there is Surface Air Pressure. All forms of air pressure are correlated with temperature. SAP is also a PLANETARY measure, not a local one. It gets THE WHOLE EARTH not just the surface of a growing urban area. If Earth was warming, SAP would be going up. IT isn't.


ALL THREE ACTUAL DATA SOURCES show precisely NO WARMING


THEORY REJECTED

please stop it with your nonsense.


the conspiracy crap you posts should stay out of here, off of this Board

 

[EMH]

please stop it with your nonsense.


the conspiracy crap you posts should stay out of here, off of this Board

There is either "parroting left wing fudgebaking liars" or "conspiracy crap"(which completely refutes) aka the actual practice of science...

 

[Dante]

There is either "parroting left wing fudgebaking liars" or "conspiracy crap"(which completely refutes) aka the actual practice of science...

Yeah, you know more than these people

Mars Science Laboratory: Curiosity Rover - NASA Science

Part of NASA's Mars Science Laboratory mission, at the time of launch, Curiosity was the largest and most capable rover ever sent to Mars at that time.

science.nasa.gov

o'tay

 

[Dante]

There is either "parroting left wing fudgebaking liars" or "conspiracy crap"(which completely refutes) aka the actual practice of science...

 

[Dante]

Being Skeptical of the Kooky Science Skeptics

CO2 lags temperature - what does it mean?

<p>When the Earth comes out of an ice age, the warming is not initiated by CO2 but by changes in the Earth's orbit. The warming causes the oceans to give up CO2. The CO2 amplifies the warming and mixes through the atmosphere, spreading warming throughout the planet. So CO2 causes warming...

skepticalscience.com

 

[Dante]

FAQ: Carbon Dioxide and Climate Change - Scripps Institute of Oceanography

What is the Keeling Curve?
The Mauna Loa carbon dioxide (CO2) record, also known as the “Keeling Curve,” is the world’s longest unbroken record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations.

 

[EMH]

Yeah, you know more than these people

Mars Science Laboratory: Curiosity Rover - NASA Science

Part of NASA's Mars Science Laboratory mission, at the time of launch, Curiosity was the largest and most capable rover ever sent to Mars at that time.

science.nasa.gov

o'tay

That's part of the Surface Air Pressure SAP data.

Mars, with its highly elliptical orbit, warms and cools via distance from Sun. This is what that does to Mars SAP...

Earth, with a much more circular orbit and a vastly thicker denser atmosphere, has a much smaller blip up when closest to Sun in January.

But

closer to Sun = warmer

and while Earth SAP fluctuates within the year depending on distance from Sun, it is NOT going up year over year, in fact slighly down....

proving

Earth is NOT WARMING

 

[Dante]

The Ups and Downs of CO2​

Part of the Climate Change exhibition.

https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/climate-change/changing-atmosphere/the-ups-and-downs-of-co2

 

[EMH]

Yeah, you know more than these people

Mars Science Laboratory: Curiosity Rover - NASA Science

Part of NASA's Mars Science Laboratory mission, at the time of launch, Curiosity was the largest and most capable rover ever sent to Mars at that time.

science.nasa.gov

o'tay

That's part of the Surface Air Pressure SAP data.

Mars, with its highly elliptical orbit, warms and cools via distance from Sun. This is what that does to Mars SAP...

Earth, with a much more circular orbit and a vastly thicker denser atmosphere, has a much smaller blip up when closest to Sun in January.

But

closer to Sun = warmer

and while Earth SAP fluctuates within the year depending on distance from Sun, it is NOT going up year over year, in fact slightly down....

proving

Earth is NOT WARMING

 

[Dante]

That's part of the Surface Air Pressure SAP data.

Mars, with its highly elliptical orbit, warms and cools via distance from Sun. This is what that does to Mars SAP...

Earth, with a much more circular orbit and a vastly thicker denser atmosphere, has a much smaller blip up when closest to Sun in January.

But

closer to Sun = warmer

and while Earth SAP fluctuates within the year depending on distance from Sun, it is NOT going up year over year, in fact slighly down....

proving

Earth is NOT WARMING

Wow!

Does NASA know what you know about Mars, Earth, warming atmospheres and planets?

Somebody should let them in in this.

 

[EMH]

Wow!

Does NASA know what you know about Mars, Earth, warming atmospheres and planets?

Somebody should let them in in this.

You have it all wrong.

Parts of NASA are "in on it." They are treasonous liars.

A few were honest but not many...

Study: Mass gains of Antarctic ice sheet greater than losses - NASA Science

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

science.nasa.gov

 

[Dante]

You have it all wrong.

Parts of NASA are "in on it." They are treasonous liars.

A few were honest but not many...

Study: Mass gains of Antarctic ice sheet greater than losses - NASA Science

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

science.nasa.gov

That's about as crazy as crazy can get

 

[EMH]

Being Skeptical of the Kooky Science Skeptics

CO2 lags temperature - what does it mean?

<p>When the Earth comes out of an ice age, the warming is not initiated by CO2 but by changes in the Earth's orbit. The warming causes the oceans to give up CO2. The CO2 amplifies the warming and mixes through the atmosphere, spreading warming throughout the planet. So CO2 causes warming...

skepticalscience.com

WRONG on the definition of ICE AGE

Thread 'Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...'

Jun 23, 2023

What is an ICE AGE?

Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice retreats, as if "Day After Tomorrow" movie is accurate... LOL!!! What was North American Ice Age before 2010 is now spun into a series of rapid "ice ages" where it took a mere 75k years for the "ice age" to start in Northern Canada and put 2.5 mile thick glaicers on Chicago. This is "Milankovich"...

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There is no evidence of an Earth orbit change. That's all CO2 FRAUD bs trying to cover for the documented truth that


Greenland froze while North America thawed AT THE SAME TIME


ruling out Sun, atmosphere, and CO2 in atmosphere as suspects