No President has a good second term, so why do you think Trump will?

[Votto]

It probably won't happen at all.

Here's the ugly little truth. We need undocumented immigrants to keep the food on the shelves and the buildings going up.

I see. You need the little people to do the little jobs

It shows how much democrats value immigrants.

Xenophobe much?

 

[JoeB131]

Biden eagerly cratered the economy. Democrats to this very day ignore the American public.

Um, frankly, the economy was pretty good under Biden for most people.

No one likes paying higher prices even when they get higher wages, but inflation was a global issue due to how the global economy was wracked by Covid.

Not to worry, Trump will show you what a real messed up economy looks like..

Recessions aren't a republican bug, their a design feature.

 

[JoeB131]

I see. You need the little people to do the little jobs

It shows how much democrats value immigrants.

Xenophobe much?

Not at all, I'm a realist.

My grandparents did menial jobs when they came over here from Germany. They did it knowing their kids and grandkids would have it better.

 

[Robert W]

Um, frankly, the economy was pretty good under Biden for most people.

No one likes paying higher prices even when they get higher wages, but inflation was a global issue due to how the global economy was wracked by Covid.

Not to worry, Trump will show you what a real messed up economy looks like..

Recessions aren't a republican bug, their a design feature.

You also refused to listen to america.

 

[Robert W]

Not at all, I'm a realist.

My grandparents did menial jobs when they came over here from Germany. They did it knowing their kids and grandkids would have it better.

So you realistically predicted Trump is the next president?

 

[JoeB131]

Well, first of all, that's not really true. Second, you really can't compare all of the two term presidencies to a split term presidency. In fact, it sounds like your argument is that Trump had a good first term and since he is going to have a second first term, both of his presidencies will be good.

Actually, yes, that is really true. Presidents never have good second terms.

The only precedent we have for a split term presidency was Grover Cleveland, and his second term was kind of a mess.

It started with the Panic of 1893. It just got worse from there.

 

[JoeB131]

You also refused to listen to america.

America just made a big dumb-ass mistake they are going to quickly regret.

So you realistically predicted Trump is the next president?

No, I horrifically underestimated the power or misogyny and racism.

 

[Independent thinker]

Actually, yes, that is really true. Presidents never have good second terms.

The only precedent we have for a split term presidency was Grover Cleveland, and his second term was kind of a mess.

It started with the Panic of 1893. It just got worse from there.

Well, Democrats would argue Obama had a good second term. Reagan had a better second term than first.

 

[Robert W]

No, I horrifically underestimated the power or misogyny and racism.

As has been proven so many times I lost count, that is the problem that Democrats had and seem to me will always have.

 

[progressive hunter]

Guy, we've seen how your side deals with things. When we threw Trump out last time, we had plagues, riots and the worst recession in 80 years.

I expect his next term to be worse.

all those things were done by you guys so I am not sure why youre blaming trump for it,,

 

[Robert W]

And then we got a recession.

Caused by Governors. Any Governor that shut down their own economy caused that recession.

 

[progressive hunter]

Guy, we've seen how your side deals with things. When we threw Trump out last time, we had plagues, riots and the worst recession in 80 years.

I expect his next term to be worse.

Fired FEMA employee says avoiding homes with Trump signs was standard protocol – [VIDEO] – The Right Scoop

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[progressive hunter]

Guy, we've seen how your side deals with things. When we threw Trump out last time, we had plagues, riots and the worst recession in 80 years.

I expect his next term to be worse.

BREAKING: CNN to unleash SWEEPING layoffs after Trump election – The Right Scoop

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[progressive hunter]

Guy, we've seen how your side deals with things. When we threw Trump out last time, we had plagues, riots and the worst recession in 80 years.

I expect his next term to be worse.

 

[Robert W]

Fired FEMA employee says avoiding homes with Trump signs was standard protocol – [VIDEO] – The Right Scoop

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Proving the Bidenistas were ordered by him to not help those who displayed Trump signs.
Why do Bidenistas think they can get away using government this way?

 

[Robert W]

When we threw Trump out last time, we had plagues, riots and the worst recession in 80 years.

And you approved those riots as loyal Bidenistas.

 

[JoeB131]

As has been proven so many times I lost count, that is the problem that Democrats had and seem to me will always have.

No, buddy, the reality is the GOP has gotten very good at playing on your racial, religious, and sexual fears.

They've been doing this since Tricky Dick, and you keep falling for it.

So in the last 50 years, they've dismantled the middle class, and you guys keep falling for it. Meanwhile, gays can get married, women are still getting abortions despite your best efforts, and kids are learning about Dinosaurs in school.

Sucks to be you.

 

[Robert W]

No, buddy, the reality is the GOP has gotten very good at playing on your racial, religious, and sexual fears.

They've been doing this since Tricky Dick, and you keep falling for it.

So in the last 50 years, they've dismantled the middle class, and you guys keep falling for it. Meanwhile, gays can get married, women are still getting abortions despite your best efforts, and kids are learning about Dinosaurs in school.

This is what you told us all here.

Joe said to us all, he was for many years a good decent republican. But when the shit hit the fan when Bush was in office, he bailed out. So for years and years he was a very good republican. Now Joe wants us to think he could be a good republican but none of us posters can be good republicans.

joe, when you were still a republican, were gays top on your mind? Roe v wade was as flawed as was the laws approving slaves was. At least at the time, owning slaves was constitutional.

Joe you will not find anywhere in the constitution laws saying murdering children not born is legal. This is as lousy as you wanting Ashli Babbitt dead at the hands of a murdering cop.

 

[Robert W]

No, buddy, the reality is the GOP has gotten very good at playing on your racial, religious, and sexual fears.

Joe, when you were a Republican, were those all your fears?

 

[JoeB131]

This is what you told us all here.

Joe said to us all, he was for many years a good decent republican. But when the shit hit the fan when Bush was in office, he bailed out. So for years and years he was a very good republican. Now Joe wants us to think he could be a good republican but none of us posters can be good republicans.

No, I can't. The problem is the GOP is a far worse place than it was under Dubya Bush (who while he was an awful president, is a pretty decent guy.)

But the gun fetishists, religious zealots, and Libertarian Children have hijacked the GOP.

joe, when you were still a republican, were gays top on your mind? Roe v wade was as flawed as was the laws approving slaves was.

gays aren't at the top of my mind now. Even when I was republican, I had gay friends. (Ironically one of my gay friends votes Republican because her girlfriend does!)

Roe was a flawed decision at the time. I think Roe has two fundamental flaws. 1) It doesn't define where life begins, and 2) It found an absolute right to one's own body that simply doesn't exist. If it did, we should legalize prostitution, drug use of all kinds, and even selling your kidney on eBay.

What changed my mind is the reality that if a woman doesn't want to be pregnant, she'll figure out a way to not be pregnant.

And this is what you guys don't get about Roe. Roe did not open the floodgates to abortion; Roe merely legalized what everyone was already doing. by 1973, women were going to their OB/GYN and getting abortions, then the doctor would write down something else on her chart.

SCOTUS (which at that time included five Republicans who voted for Roe) merely thought they were ridding the books of unworkable laws, as they had done 8 years earlier with Griswald v. Connecticut abolishing the birth control laws

I'll go one further. Of the justices appointed by Republicans between 1973 to 2008, more of them supported Roe than opposed it. Stevens, O'Connor, Kennedy, Souter, and to a degree, Roberts, all saw Roe as as necessary. Now we are in a mess where we have to litigate this shit state by state.

Joe you will not find anywhere in the constitution laws saying murdering children not born is legal.

Fetuses aren't people. They aren't counted on the census as people, so they must not be people.

Joe, when you were a Republican, were those all your fears?

Okay, let's break it down for you.

1980 - 1992 - I was affiliated with the military, and supported the GOP because they were good for the military. However, this is about the same time I became an atheist. So I looked at the religious zealots with a lot of skeptism.
1992 - 2000 - I really disliked Bill Clinton. I kind of considered voting Democratic when Paul Tsonga ran.
2000- 2008 - I watched Bush fuck up pretty much everything he touched (although still tame compared to Trump's level of fuckuppery.)

Now, there were things the GOP said then that I liked. Strong defense, fiscal responsibility, limited government. All of which have gone out the window with the cult of Trump.