No One Has a Right to Health Care

[rightwinger]

What does this have to do with whether health care is a right?

It answers those who claim we can't afford to take care of the sick

We always seem to find the money for senseless wars and more prisons

Helping those who can't afford healthcare and our pockets seem empty

those things are in the constitution as requirements.
healthcare is not a right.

Nowhere does the constitution say anything about spending unlimited amounts on defense and prisons

Beyond that it amounts to priorities

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Neither Health care or education are covered under the constitution and neither is education

Health care isn't a right. Its a commodity that's paid for by those using it.

Paid for by those using it is the key phrase. If you want health care then pay for your own.

If you can't pay for it consult a charity for help. or a bleeding heart with the money to help you. Not the taxpayers of America.

. Saying no one has a right to healthcare is the same as saying no one has a right to live unless they can afford healthcare, and if they can't, and they are deemed by society as somehow worthless without knowing their whole story in life, then will they be shuffled around until they die sitting in the emergency room when their condition finally becomes so critical it's to late for them ? This happens more than people realize, but as long as it is not seen or known by your family or others who are living in a created class bubble, then it is whole heartedly excepted right ? If could get a government in charge that could be trusted, then it should take over the entire medical insurance industry in this nation... It would turn that industry into a fraud detection service where current employee's/workers would work in each state to manage and maintain the citizens account in each state. No one would be treated as less than another by the government run industry as pertaining to their health. The hospitals, doctors and health providers would still operate as free marketers who offer their services to the citizens in a competitive and in an efficient way. The government would just monitor the citizens account for over billing or fraud detection if a free marketer tries to crook the patient or the government.

Everyone would have a deduction that would be taken out of their income that would be listed as HCS (Healthcare Citizen Services). The amount in such an astronomical pool would drive the rate down to say $8.00 dollars a week to be taken out of each citizens income weekly. A federal healthcare card would be issued to all American Citizens.

Never happen.

You have to remember what group of people that are generous to the Democrat party come election time: trial lawyers.

If government were to take over healthcare completely, that would greatly reduce or even eliminate the amount of lawsuits in this country. Democrats are not about to let that happen.

 

[rightwinger]

or, maybe they lost their homes, then their jobs when the taxes on their earned income became too high for them to pay and meet their financial obligations at the same time. And since the government steals from your check instead of letting you send in what they want, there is no way to get around it.

That's the spirit, the crisis was caused by evil government taxes, greed of the holy free market had nothing to do with it.

But seriously, don't you know that Jezus provided free healthcare to the poor? I though all you compassionate conservatives claimed to be big fans of him.

Jesus taught that people should give of themselves, not have government forcibly take from people in order to give.

Jesus took care of the sick

He would be appalled at what passes for Christians

. Why use the label Christians.?... Do you even know Jesus in which you have used his name in vain here like you have ?

What else do you label those who follow Jesus?

 

[Jantje_Smit]

I promise not to stop you from writing a check to buy someone else healthcare. Your money, your choice.

I promise even Ayn Rand fanatics like you will get socialist healthcare after the revolution

 

[Rustic]

First you must understand what Jesus meant by that. Then you will realize it has nothing to do with what you are discussing.

Just because you think that it's not right to force others to pay for medical care is not being hypocritical nor wanting people to die. People who are physically and mentally capable of working should be taking care of themselves. It's people that don't have that ability we need to worry about and we do. We have countless programs for people in those situations.

In this case I wasn't talking about you but the patriot clown above

But this "taking care of themselves" bull$hit is a bit ridiculous when you have millions of unemployed and many millions more working for a minimum wage. How are they supposed to take care of their own healthcare when they can't afford the prices of the holy free market?

$trillions in bailouts and $trillions to wage war on the other side of the planet aren't a problem somehow but providing healthcare for people in your own country is wrong and people shouldn't be forced to pay for it?

Sorry comrade, but I don't give a $hit about the free market, I care about fellow human beings instead.

Just like I told righwinger: If you think it's a right to provide others with healthcare, volunteer at your nearest hospital and provide such care. I'm sure they will let you work as many hours as you desire.

How are others supposed to get healthcare? I thought DumBama and the Democrats solved that problem. I though they said Commie Care was the solution to our healthcare problems. Now you mean to tell me that it's not? We were lied to? The shame of it all.......

Shit happens, the bleeding heart progressives can't accept that. The socialist safety net has never worked in all of history, for the good.
Socialism makes infamous dictators though...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What does this have to do with whether health care is a right?

It answers those who claim we can't afford to take care of the sick

We always seem to find the money for senseless wars and more prisons

Helping those who can't afford healthcare and our pockets seem empty

those things are in the constitution as requirements.
healthcare is not a right.

Nowhere does the constitution say anything about spending unlimited amounts on defense and prisons

Beyond that it amounts to priorities

The Constitution does charge our representatives with the protection of the citizens. That's why we have military and prisons although all of our prisons (except federal prisons) are run by the state.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

or, maybe they lost their homes, then their jobs when the taxes on their earned income became too high for them to pay and meet their financial obligations at the same time. And since the government steals from your check instead of letting you send in what they want, there is no way to get around it.

That's the spirit, the crisis was caused by evil government taxes, greed of the holy free market had nothing to do with it.

But seriously, don't you know that Jezus provided free healthcare to the poor? I though all you compassionate conservatives claimed to be big fans of him.

Jesus taught that people should give of themselves, not have government forcibly take from people in order to give.

Jesus took care of the sick

He would be appalled at what passes for Christians

You said a mouthful right there: Jesus took care of the sick. He didn't insist government take money from people to take care of the sick. That was my point all along.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

What does this have to do with whether health care is a right?

It answers those who claim we can't afford to take care of the sick

We always seem to find the money for senseless wars and more prisons

Helping those who can't afford healthcare and our pockets seem empty

those things are in the constitution as requirements.
healthcare is not a right.

Nowhere does the constitution say anything about spending unlimited amounts on defense and prisons

Beyond that it amounts to priorities

nowhere does it limit the amount.
but, nowhere does it include healthcare

 

[Rustic]

I promise not to stop you from writing a check to buy someone else healthcare. Your money, your choice.

I promise even Ayn Rand fanatics like you will get socialist healthcare after the revolution

You ever read the book 1984??
Forcing healthcare on a population that wants nothing to do with it??
Sounds very... National Socialist Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Trillions wasted on socialist entitlement programs make all other expenditures look tiny, now go hide dumbass.

Funny, providing people with healthcare, education, old age pension etc. is a waste.....

You're a sorry excuse for a human being

 

[rightwinger]

What does this have to do with whether health care is a right?

It answers those who claim we can't afford to take care of the sick

We always seem to find the money for senseless wars and more prisons

Helping those who can't afford healthcare and our pockets seem empty

those things are in the constitution as requirements.
healthcare is not a right.

Nowhere does the constitution say anything about spending unlimited amounts on defense and prisons

Beyond that it amounts to priorities

The Constitution does charge our representatives with the protection of the citizens. That's why we have military and prisons although all of our prisons (except federal prisons) are run by the state.

For a country that hasn't had a foreign country invade in 200 years, we have flexibility in what we need for defense

We have more citizens in jail than any nation on earth

Yet, we complain we can't afford healthcare...it is a matter of national priorities

 

[Maryland Patriot]

What does this have to do with whether health care is a right?

It answers those who claim we can't afford to take care of the sick

We always seem to find the money for senseless wars and more prisons

Helping those who can't afford healthcare and our pockets seem empty

those things are in the constitution as requirements.
healthcare is not a right.

Nowhere does the constitution say anything about spending unlimited amounts on defense and prisons

Beyond that it amounts to priorities

The Constitution does charge our representatives with the protection of the citizens. That's why we have military and prisons although all of our prisons (except federal prisons) are run by the state.

For a country that hasn't had a foreign country invade in 200 years, we have flexibility in what we need for defense

We have more citizens in jail than any nation on earth

Yet, we complain we can't afford healthcare...it is a matter of national priorities

but at least they get health care in prison.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What does this have to do with whether health care is a right?

It answers those who claim we can't afford to take care of the sick

We always seem to find the money for senseless wars and more prisons

Helping those who can't afford healthcare and our pockets seem empty

But what does that have to do with whether health care is a right?

Only a dipshit thinks healthcare is an right... Lol

Anything the people decide is a right is a right. The people can decide that access to basic healthcare regardless of one's ability to pay is a right, and that's that.

Just like the people decided to make gun ownership a right.

No, the US Constitution made gun ownership a right. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention healthcare.

What did I say?

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Just like I told righwinger: If you think it's a right to provide others with healthcare, volunteer at your nearest hospital and provide such care. I'm sure they will let you work as many hours as you desire.

How are others supposed to get healthcare? I thought DumBama and the Democrats solved that problem. I though they said Commie Care was the solution to our healthcare problems. Now you mean to tell me that it's not? We were lied to? The shame of it all.......

You just don't get it, I think healthcare is a human right and should not be dependent on charity.

And I also don't give a $hit about Obamacare and democrats in general. Obama is part of the problem, Hillary too and even Bernie is a fake socialist allthough he has at least some good ideas.

 

[Rustic]

Trillions wasted on socialist entitlement programs make all other expenditures look tiny, now go hide dumbass.

Funny, providing people with healthcare, education, old age pension etc. is a waste.....

You're a sorry excuse for a human being

There is a difference between using resources efficiently and wastefully, career politicians and their federal government are the very definition of wasteful as is every socialist entitlement program.
That is why this federal government is a banana republic

 

[NYcarbineer]

If single payer universal healthcare is made law, healthcare will become a right. As it should be.

 

[rightwinger]

or, maybe they lost their homes, then their jobs when the taxes on their earned income became too high for them to pay and meet their financial obligations at the same time. And since the government steals from your check instead of letting you send in what they want, there is no way to get around it.

That's the spirit, the crisis was caused by evil government taxes, greed of the holy free market had nothing to do with it.

But seriously, don't you know that Jezus provided free healthcare to the poor? I though all you compassionate conservatives claimed to be big fans of him.

Jesus taught that people should give of themselves, not have government forcibly take from people in order to give.

Jesus took care of the sick

He would be appalled at what passes for Christians

You said a mouthful right there: Jesus took care of the sick. He didn't insist government take money from people to take care of the sick. That was my point all along.

Jesus did not scream at the sick that they should GET A JOB if they want treatment

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Just like I told righwinger: If you think it's a right to provide others with healthcare, volunteer at your nearest hospital and provide such care. I'm sure they will let you work as many hours as you desire.

How are others supposed to get healthcare? I thought DumBama and the Democrats solved that problem. I though they said Commie Care was the solution to our healthcare problems. Now you mean to tell me that it's not? We were lied to? The shame of it all.......

You just don't get it, I think healthcare is a human right and should not be dependent on charity.

And I also don't give a $hit about Obamacare and democrats in general. Obama is part of the problem, Hillary too and even Bernie is a fake socialist allthough he has at least some good ideas.

you do understand that you thinking its a human right does not actually makes it a human right

 

[rightwinger]

What does this have to do with whether health care is a right?

It answers those who claim we can't afford to take care of the sick

We always seem to find the money for senseless wars and more prisons

Helping those who can't afford healthcare and our pockets seem empty

those things are in the constitution as requirements.
healthcare is not a right.

Nowhere does the constitution say anything about spending unlimited amounts on defense and prisons

Beyond that it amounts to priorities

nowhere does it limit the amount.
but, nowhere does it include healthcare

General Welfare includes healthcare

 

[Maryland Patriot]

or, maybe they lost their homes, then their jobs when the taxes on their earned income became too high for them to pay and meet their financial obligations at the same time. And since the government steals from your check instead of letting you send in what they want, there is no way to get around it.

That's the spirit, the crisis was caused by evil government taxes, greed of the holy free market had nothing to do with it.

But seriously, don't you know that Jezus provided free healthcare to the poor? I though all you compassionate conservatives claimed to be big fans of him.

Jesus taught that people should give of themselves, not have government forcibly take from people in order to give.

Jesus took care of the sick

He would be appalled at what passes for Christians

You said a mouthful right there: Jesus took care of the sick. He didn't insist government take money from people to take care of the sick. That was my point all along.

Jesus did not scream at the sick that they should GET A JOB if they want treatment

you really need to read the Bible before you start telling others what it says.