No One Has a Right to Health Care

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No One Has a Right to Health Care
by Jacob G. Hornberger February 3, 2016

Democratic Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders says that everyone has a right to health care. Unfortunately, none of his presidential opponents, Democrat or Republican, is going to challenge him on the point. They’re too scared that they’d lose votes by challenging a standard socialist shibboleth in America.

Sanders’ assertion only goes to show how American socialists (i.e., progressives) have warped and perverted the concept of rights within the minds of the American people. The fact is that no one has a right to health care any more than he has a right to a home, a car, food, spouse, or anything else.

The correct concept of rights was enunciated by Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence, the document that Americans ironically celebrate every Fourth of July. Jefferson observed that people have been endowed with certain unalienable rights, among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
 
The whole idea of "rights" has been thoroughly corrupted to the point that people actually buy the notion that a right means the taxpayers must provide something.


EXACTLY.

THE BERNERS, AKA, The socialists, believe that the state has the authority to compel producers and taxpayers to provide them healthcare.

The impostors, the stupid motherfuckers who populate SCOTUS have somehow ruled that fedgov has the authority to compel Americans to pay and participate in the scam so long as fedgov calls the scheme "a tax".


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Even prior to the ACA nobody was denied access to healthcare. If you walked into a publicly funded hospital with a stab wound or drug overdose they were required to take care of you.
It worked so well. (sarcasm)

But, I agree that talk about "rights" is counterproductive and dishonest.
 
No One Has a Right to Health Care
by Jacob G. Hornberger February 3, 2016

Democratic Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders says that everyone has a right to health care. Unfortunately, none of his presidential opponents, Democrat or Republican, is going to challenge him on the point. They’re too scared that they’d lose votes by challenging a standard socialist shibboleth in America.

Sanders’ assertion only goes to show how American socialists (i.e., progressives) have warped and perverted the concept of rights within the minds of the American people. The fact is that no one has a right to health care any more than he has a right to a home, a car, food, spouse, or anything else.

The correct concept of rights was enunciated by Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence, the document that Americans ironically celebrate every Fourth of July. Jefferson observed that people have been endowed with certain unalienable rights, among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Reminds me of that "clever" crack of Reagan's about abortion, "I notice that everyone who's for abortion has already been born."

I notice everyone who's against healthcare for everyone else has no objection to taking care of themselves. Do any of them ever wonder what would have happened if their mothers hadn't had access to prenatal care, much less a safe delivery? What if they hadn't been able to see a doctor when they were growing up?

How many anti-vaxxers were vaccinated themselves growing up?

How many had access to dentists and eye doctors and hearing tests when they were growing up and would deny those things to others now?

Why do so many Americans want to replace "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" with "Mine, mine, mine, gimme, gimme, gimme"?
 
A right to healthcare would seem to improve life and pursuit of happiness. As they say "two out of three ain't bad".

Agreed.. that's why contrary to public opinion, we don't deny access to healthcare.


The welfare state compels taxpayers and producers to pay for healthcare - but socialized medicine will bankrupt the nation. I mean the US is already bankrupt t---the national debt is over 18 TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTrillion $$$$$.

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No One Has a Right to Health Care
by Jacob G. Hornberger February 3, 2016

Democratic Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders says that everyone has a right to health care. Unfortunately, none of his presidential opponents, Democrat or Republican, is going to challenge him on the point. They’re too scared that they’d lose votes by challenging a standard socialist shibboleth in America.

Sanders’ assertion only goes to show how American socialists (i.e., progressives) have warped and perverted the concept of rights within the minds of the American people. The fact is that no one has a right to health care any more than he has a right to a home, a car, food, spouse, or anything else.

The correct concept of rights was enunciated by Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence, the document that Americans ironically celebrate every Fourth of July. Jefferson observed that people have been endowed with certain unalienable rights, among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Rights are what we the People make them.
 
Even prior to the ACA nobody was denied access to healthcare. If you walked into a publicly funded hospital with a stab wound or drug overdose they were required to take care of you.


AND THAT WAS WRONG.

IN OUR CONSTITUTIONALFORM OF GOVERNMENT NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO PROVIDE THEM WITH SOMETHING.


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Even prior to the ACA nobody was denied access to healthcare. If you walked into a publicly funded hospital with a stab wound or drug overdose they were required to take care of you.

And if you were unable or unwilling to pay, the hospital absorbed those costs and passed them on to everyone else.
 
Even prior to the ACA nobody was denied access to healthcare. If you walked into a publicly funded hospital with a stab wound or drug overdose they were required to take care of you.


AND THAT WAS WRONG.

IN OUR CONSTITUTIONALFORM OF GOVERNMENT NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO PROVIDE THEM WITH SOMETHING.


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So everyone but you should die. No need to SHOUT.
 
A right to healthcare would seem to improve life and pursuit of happiness. As they say "two out of three ain't bad".

I really dont' see any legal barriers to someone getting healthcare other than laws that forbid one person from buying insurance in another state or country. I don't see anyone standing up for that right but maybe that is because so many politician are recieving money form insurance companies to deny us the right to buy healthcare in another state or country.
 
Even prior to the ACA nobody was denied access to healthcare. If you walked into a publicly funded hospital with a stab wound or drug overdose they were required to take care of you.

Then why do I remember that story of a couple people in Arizona who died because they weren't given heart transplants they couldn't afford?
 
Even prior to the ACA nobody was denied access to healthcare. If you walked into a publicly funded hospital with a stab wound or drug overdose they were required to take care of you.


AND THAT WAS WRONG.

IN OUR CONSTITUTIONALFORM OF GOVERNMENT NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO COMPEL TAXPAYERS AND PRODUCERS TO PROVIDE THEM WITH SOMETHING.


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So everyone but you should die. No need to SHOUT.

That maybe the only way to successfully kill off obama.
 
Even prior to the ACA nobody was denied access to healthcare. If you walked into a publicly funded hospital with a stab wound or drug overdose they were required to take care of you.

And if you were unable or unwilling to pay, the hospital absorbed those costs and passed them on to everyone else.

Isn't this the strategy behind forcing eveyone to buy health insurance? Let the healthy who never need this pay for the sick who do. It just seems like your scenario is exactly like obama-fucking-care.
 
I don't give a crap whether it is a "right". I don't care if some people think it is "moral".

Providing at least preventive, diagnostic and basic health care services identifies problems early and saves money in the long run. It's good economics.

Expand the current, already-working personal Medicare/Medicare Supplement/Medicare Advantage program to all.

Take a massive cost/administration monkey off the backs of American business. Take a massive cost/administration monkey off the backs of insurers by relieving them of paying for the lower-end services. Rid us of the SEVEN (7) different delivery/payment systems we have right now, none of which coordinate directly with the other. Maintain a robust, dynamic, competitive insurance environment.

Both parties have completely failed us on this.
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