no holocaust in Gaza, huh?

[Coyote]

In the event that came to be known as "The Holocaust" - somewhere around 11 million Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, communists, 7th Day Adventists, homosexuals, mentally and physically disabled and others were methodically murdered in what is without question the largest and most thoroughly documented genocide of the 20th century. Of those 11 million, one million were children.

Out of approsimately nine million Jews who in Europe before the Holocaust, approximately two-thirds were killed.

That's called a Reality Check.

I agree with the topic title: No Holocaust in Gaza.

 

[aris2chat]

He was born in Cairo. He's Egyptian.

You're not that stupid.

That's pretty stupid, too. but what about the Shi'a?

So, it doesn't matter that Yasser Arafat has an Egyptian Birth Certificate.

He's a Palestinian anyway. Just like the Palestinians who speak with an Iranian accent. They are also Palestinians.

Regarding stupidity, you're not looking good at the moment.

Personal details
Born Mohammed Yasser Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa
24 August 1929
Cairo, Egypt

Yasser Arafat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regarding the Shia in Gaza?

The ones with the Farsi accents are all high level commanders. The ones that were born there?

I fail to understand how can someone be so shameless to have this selective morality, that too enabled randomly on certain occasions? They will speak about Gaza, they will speak about Syria, they will even sympathies with Aafia Siddiqi, Osama Bin Laden and the terrorists killed in drone attacks or armed Lal Masjid goons. What is common across all of these? They are all Salafi/Wahabi/Deobandi Muslims. Yes, they will only speak when Salafi/Wahabi/Deobandi Muslims are killed, specially when killed by non-Muslims or kuffar.

Will custodians of Gaza speak on Shia Genocide? | World Shia Forum

Ami much absolutely hate research

Most sources including Tony Walker, Andrew Gowers, Alan Hart and Said K. Aburish indicate Cairo as Arafat's place of birth

 

[MHunterB]

"You know, I kind of suspect that part of the problem the Zionist contingent is having with reality is that they have never had a Palestinian friend, an Arab friend, and maybe not even a gentile friend???!? It kind of feels that way. "

Poor Hostility: she's intent on painting 'Zionists' as being isolated from everyone else, isn't she? She still fantasizes that the only Zionists are Jewish ones, and talks about us as though there's some 'Zionist conspiracy'......

There's a reason I keep repeating that 'feelings have no truth value': it's the truth.

The only Zionists I care about are Jewish. Because you are not going to let the others in, that's for sure.

And the stuff that gets posted on here is so out to lunch, yes, I think you must literally not know anyone who isn't Jewish. And certainly you don't know any Palestinians.

Gee, racist much? FYI: the Baha'i are Zionist in their theology. Although their world HQ is in Tel Aviv, none of them in Israel SEEK Israeli citizenship: if an Israeli converts to Baha'i, they seek citizenship in some other country. At least that's what my Baha'i friends have insisted - it has nothing to do with the Israeli government and everything to do with the Baha'i doctrines.

You really do seem to believe your own propaganda: there is nothing in Israeli law about keeping any group OUT, only a 'fast-track' for Jews-practicing-Judaism to become citizens. It's really not so different from several other nations which give preference to certain groups of people. I'd be at the end of a very long line seeking German citizenship - but my husband with his documented Palantine German descent would get right in.

A lot of stuff that you've posted, Hostility, has been 'out to lunch' - like the above quote. I thought you had some basic background in science? Then you should have learned that feelings have got ZERO truth value.

 

[amity1844]

You're not that stupid.

That's pretty stupid, too. but what about the Shi'a?

So, it doesn't matter that Yasser Arafat has an Egyptian Birth Certificate.

He's a Palestinian anyway. Just like the Palestinians who speak with an Iranian accent. They are also Palestinians.

Regarding stupidity, you're not looking good at the moment.

Loads of Palestinians have managed to secure other nationalities. Most haven't.
By contrast, nearly everyone who immigrated to Israel during this same period
DID have citizenship elsewhere. They had other places to go, unlike the Palestinians.

Yasser Arafat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No one is denying that he was born in Cairo.
Regarding the Shia in Gaza?

The ones with the Farsi accents are all high level commanders. The ones that were born there?

I fail to understand how can someone be so shameless to have this selective morality, that too enabled randomly on certain occasions? They will speak about Gaza, they will speak about Syria, they will even sympathies with Aafia Siddiqi, Osama Bin Laden and the terrorists killed in drone attacks or armed Lal Masjid goons. What is common across all of these? They are all Salafi/Wahabi/Deobandi Muslims. Yes, they will only speak when Salafi/Wahabi/Deobandi Muslims are killed, specially when killed by non-Muslims or kuffar.

Will custodians of Gaza speak on Shia Genocide? | World Shia Forum

Ami much absolutely hate research

Most sources including Tony Walker, Andrew Gowers, Alan Hart and Said K. Aburish indicate Cairo as Arafat's place of birth

Yes, I am absolutely not denying he was born in Cairo. I am just confused by your point, especially considering that practically everyone in Israel had been born elsewhere too.
I am trying to parse the rest of this. So you are saying that the Farsi commanders in Gaza are turning on their own people? (the Shi'ites?) I admit I never heard of it, but I think it is pretty suspect in part for that reason, and in part because YOU are the one mentioning it. Why has the western press not heard of this?

 

[Roudy]

"You know, I kind of suspect that part of the problem the Zionist contingent is having with reality is that they have never had a Palestinian friend, an Arab friend, and maybe not even a gentile friend???!? It kind of feels that way. "

Poor Hostility: she's intent on painting 'Zionists' as being isolated from everyone else, isn't she? She still fantasizes that the only Zionists are Jewish ones, and talks about us as though there's some 'Zionist conspiracy'......

There's a reason I keep repeating that 'feelings have no truth value': it's the truth.

The only Zionists I care about are Jewish. Because you are not going to let the others in, that's for sure.

And the stuff that gets posted on here is so out to lunch, yes, I think you must literally not know anyone who isn't Jewish. And certainly you don't know any Palestinians.

Gee, racist much? FYI: the Baha'i are Zionist in their theology. Although their world HQ is in Tel Aviv, none of them in Israel SEEK Israeli citizenship: if an Israeli converts to Baha'i, they seek citizenship in some other country. At least that's what my Baha'i friends have insisted - it has nothing to do with the Israeli government and everything to do with the Baha'i doctrines.

You really do seem to believe your own propaganda: there is nothing in Israeli law about keeping any group OUT, only a 'fast-track' for Jews-practicing-Judaism to become citizens. It's really not so different from several other nations which give preference to certain groups of people. I'd be at the end of a very long line seeking German citizenship - but my husband with his documented Palantine German descent would get right in.

A lot of stuff that you've posted, Hostility, has been 'out to lunch' - like the above quote. I thought you had some basic background in science? Then you should have learned that feelings have got ZERO truth value.

The Baha'is holiest temple (equivalent to their Vatican) is located in Haifa Israel. It is one of the most beautiful structures in the world. The Baha'is chose Israel because they've seen nothing but violence and intolerance from Muslims.

http://www.sacred-destinations.com/israel/haifa-bahai-shrine

 

[amity1844]

Gee, racist much? FYI: the Baha'i are Zionist in their theology. Although their world HQ is in Tel Aviv, none of them in Israel SEEK Israeli citizenship: if an Israeli converts to Baha'i, they seek citizenship in some other country. At least that's what my Baha'i friends have insisted - it has nothing to do with the Israeli government and everything to do with the Baha'i doctrines.

The Baha'is holiest temple (equivalent to their Vatican) is located in Haifa Israel. It is one of the most beautiful structures in the world. The Baha'is chose Israel because they've seen nothing but violence and intolerance from Muslims.

Talk about stealing history!!
Roudy my understanding while I was there is that Haifa was chosen for the Baha'i faith because the man who did the most to promote it in its earliest days was a Palestinian in Haifa.

From Wikipedia:

"In 1868 Bahá'u'lláh was banished by Sultan Abdülâziz a final time to the Ottoman penal colony of `Akká,

It was established in Palestine in the 19th century, not in Israel. Its adherents in Israel tend to be Arabs, not Jews. And it is so peripheral I am not going to bother researching this.
But, man, they DO have some landscape architects, do they not? or some money to pay some, one or the other.

 

[Billo_Really]

In the event that came to be known as "The Holocaust" - somewhere around 11 million Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, communists, 7th Day Adventists, homosexuals, mentally and physically disabled and others were methodically murdered in what is without question the largest and most thoroughly documented genocide of the 20th century. Of those 11 million, one million were children.

Out of approsimately nine million Jews who in Europe before the Holocaust, approximately two-thirds were killed.

That's called a Reality Check.

I agree with the topic title: No Holocaust in Gaza.

And "the event that came to be known as "The Holocaust"", didn't just happen overnight. There were years of "ramping up the hate" that went un-addressed by the general population, until it became too late to do anything about it.

What we have in Gaza and the West Bank, is similar to what went on in Germany from 1930 - 39. It is not as horrific as the Holocaust, but it is similar and the "hate", is exactly the same. There is no difference in the hate Nazis had in their hearts for Jews, than the hatred Zionists have in their hearts for Palestinian's. None.

 

[toastman]

In the event that came to be known as "The Holocaust" - somewhere around 11 million Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, communists, 7th Day Adventists, homosexuals, mentally and physically disabled and others were methodically murdered in what is without question the largest and most thoroughly documented genocide of the 20th century. Of those 11 million, one million were children.

Out of approsimately nine million Jews who in Europe before the Holocaust, approximately two-thirds were killed.

That's called a Reality Check.

I agree with the topic title: No Holocaust in Gaza.

And "the event that came to be known as "The Holocaust"", didn't just happen overnight. There were years of "ramping up the hate" that went un-addressed by the general population, until it became too late to do anything about it.

What we have in Gaza and the West Bank, is similar to what went on in Germany from 1930 - 39. It is not as horrific as the Holocaust, but it is similar and the "hate", is exactly the same. There is no difference in the hate Nazis had in their hearts for Jews, than the hatred Zionists have in their hearts for Palestinian's. None.

Other way around you lying scumbag. The hate that Palestinians have for Israelis is no different then the hate Nazis had for Jews.

 

[Billo_Really]

Other way around you lying scumbag. The hate that Palestinians have for Israelis is no different then the hate Nazis had for Jews.

Wrong! Palestinian's have good reason to hate the Israeli's, because of all the shit Israeli's put them through.

The only reason Israeli's hate the Palestinian's, is because they're in the way!

 

[toastman]

Other way around you lying scumbag. The hate that Palestinians have for Israelis is no different then the hate Nazis had for Jews.

Wrong! Palestinian's have good reason to hate the Israeli's, because of all the shit Israeli's put them through.

The only reason Israeli's hate the Palestinian's, is because they're in the way!

Wow, it's almost as if you know nothing about this conflict.

The Palestinians never sis anything to Israelis, right??

And if the Palestinians don't like the way Israel is treating them, then they should go after their leadership who is responsible for the situation they are in.

They should have thought twice before launching that second intifada...

 

[Coyote]

In the event that came to be known as "The Holocaust" - somewhere around 11 million Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, communists, 7th Day Adventists, homosexuals, mentally and physically disabled and others were methodically murdered in what is without question the largest and most thoroughly documented genocide of the 20th century. Of those 11 million, one million were children.

Out of approsimately nine million Jews who in Europe before the Holocaust, approximately two-thirds were killed.

That's called a Reality Check.

I agree with the topic title: No Holocaust in Gaza.

And "the event that came to be known as "The Holocaust"", didn't just happen overnight. There were years of "ramping up the hate" that went un-addressed by the general population, until it became too late to do anything about it.

Yup - I absolutely agree. That kind of hatred then is the same kind we see now being ramped up against Muslims in western countries, immigrants and pushing an increase in anti-semitism in some countries. It should be exposed for what it is where ever it is.

What we have in Gaza and the West Bank, is similar to what went on in Germany from 1930 - 39. It is not as horrific as the Holocaust, but it is similar and the "hate", is exactly the same. There is no difference in the hate Nazis had in their hearts for Jews, than the hatred Zionists have in their hearts for Palestinian's. None.

The rhetoric is similar to the anti-semitic rhetoric of the 30's and 40's and I think that needs to be confronted for the bigotry it is rather than casually accepted.

But bigotry isn't "Holocaust" or "genocide" - it's bigotry and hate. The difference is huge.

 

[Roudy]

Gee, racist much? FYI: the Baha'i are Zionist in their theology. Although their world HQ is in Tel Aviv, none of them in Israel SEEK Israeli citizenship: if an Israeli converts to Baha'i, they seek citizenship in some other country. At least that's what my Baha'i friends have insisted - it has nothing to do with the Israeli government and everything to do with the Baha'i doctrines.

The Baha'is holiest temple (equivalent to their Vatican) is located in Haifa Israel. It is one of the most beautiful structures in the world. The Baha'is chose Israel because they've seen nothing but violence and intolerance from Muslims.

Talk about stealing history!!
Roudy my understanding while I was there is that Haifa was chosen for the Baha'i faith because the man who did the most to promote it in its earliest days was a Palestinian in Haifa.

From Wikipedia:

"In 1868 Bahá'u'lláh was banished by Sultan Abdülâziz a final time to the Ottoman penal colony of `Akká,

It was established in Palestine in the 19th century, not in Israel. Its adherents in Israel tend to be Arabs, not Jews. And it is so peripheral I am not going to bother researching this.
But, man, they DO have some landscape architects, do they not? or some money to pay some, one or the other.

The temple was stablished in 1948 under Israeli control. Epic fail again, dipstick.

 

[Roudy]

In the event that came to be known as "The Holocaust" - somewhere around 11 million Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, communists, 7th Day Adventists, homosexuals, mentally and physically disabled and others were methodically murdered in what is without question the largest and most thoroughly documented genocide of the 20th century. Of those 11 million, one million were children.

Out of approsimately nine million Jews who in Europe before the Holocaust, approximately two-thirds were killed.

That's called a Reality Check.

I agree with the topic title: No Holocaust in Gaza.

And "the event that came to be known as "The Holocaust"", didn't just happen overnight. There were years of "ramping up the hate" that went un-addressed by the general population, until it became too late to do anything about it.

What we have in Gaza and the West Bank, is similar to what went on in Germany from 1930 - 39. It is not as horrific as the Holocaust, but it is similar and the "hate", is exactly the same. There is no difference in the hate Nazis had in their hearts for Jews, than the hatred Zionists have in their hearts for Palestinian's. None.

Other way around you lying scumbag. The hate that Palestinians have for Israelis is no different then the hate Nazis had for Jews.

Actually Palestinians are the Islamic offspring of the nazis.

www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com

 

[Coyote]

In the event that came to be known as "The Holocaust" - somewhere around 11 million Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, communists, 7th Day Adventists, homosexuals, mentally and physically disabled and others were methodically murdered in what is without question the largest and most thoroughly documented genocide of the 20th century. Of those 11 million, one million were children.

Out of approsimately nine million Jews who in Europe before the Holocaust, approximately two-thirds were killed.

That's called a Reality Check.

I agree with the topic title: No Holocaust in Gaza.

And "the event that came to be known as "The Holocaust"", didn't just happen overnight. There were years of "ramping up the hate" that went un-addressed by the general population, until it became too late to do anything about it.

What we have in Gaza and the West Bank, is similar to what went on in Germany from 1930 - 39. It is not as horrific as the Holocaust, but it is similar and the "hate", is exactly the same. There is no difference in the hate Nazis had in their hearts for Jews, than the hatred Zionists have in their hearts for Palestinian's. None.

Other way around you lying scumbag. The hate that Palestinians have for Israelis is no different then the hate Nazis had for Jews.

I disagree - the hatreds between the Palestinians and the Israeli's has more to do with years of unresolved conflict over territorial rights than any sense of racial superiority or eugenics. Neither group in the conflict is comparable to the Nazi's.

 

[toastman]

And "the event that came to be known as "The Holocaust"", didn't just happen overnight. There were years of "ramping up the hate" that went un-addressed by the general population, until it became too late to do anything about it.

What we have in Gaza and the West Bank, is similar to what went on in Germany from 1930 - 39. It is not as horrific as the Holocaust, but it is similar and the "hate", is exactly the same. There is no difference in the hate Nazis had in their hearts for Jews, than the hatred Zionists have in their hearts for Palestinian's. None.

Other way around you lying scumbag. The hate that Palestinians have for Israelis is no different then the hate Nazis had for Jews.

I disagree - the hatreds between the Palestinians and the Israeli's has more to do with years of unresolved conflict over territorial rights than any sense of racial superiority or eugenics. Neither group in the conflict is comparable to the Nazi's.

Then why do you never tell that to Billo, who constantly compares Israelis to Nazis.

 

[Coyote]

Other way around you lying scumbag. The hate that Palestinians have for Israelis is no different then the hate Nazis had for Jews.

I disagree - the hatreds between the Palestinians and the Israeli's has more to do with years of unresolved conflict over territorial rights than any sense of racial superiority or eugenics. Neither group in the conflict is comparable to the Nazi's.

Then why do you never tell that to Billo, who constantly compares Israelis to Nazis.

Because I've been talking with Amnity . Sheesh. What is it with you and the demand that I MUST engage every poster ???

Set an example

 

[Ropey]

US-based Muslim charity guilty of funding terrorism

The leaders of what was once the largest Muslim charity in the United States were found guilty on Monday of acting as a front for Palestinian militants in the largest terrorism financing prosecution in American history.

 

[Coyote]

US-based Muslim charity guilty of funding terrorism

The leaders of what was once the largest Muslim charity in the United States were found guilty on Monday of acting as a front for Palestinian militants in the largest terrorism financing prosecution in American history.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

[Coyote]

Ropey - what does this have to do with a supposed holocaust in Gaza......

 

[Ropey]

The Palestinians are funding the supposed holocaust...