NO EXIT? How will the U S be able to extricate itself from Trump's "little excursion"?

[schmidlap]

The best outcome is regime change

Short of that Trump has some “‘splainin’” to do

In the sequel to Citizen Kane, the final scene fades to black as the camera slowly zooms back from an ever-diminishing old man sitting alone in an enormous, glitzy ballroom.

 

[Mashmont]

I would venture that the elimination of Iran's nuclear capability would allow him to escape with a defensible justification.

Anything less, and, to use a favorite Trump appellation, he's a loser.

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If Trump leaves now, the stockpile of near-bomb-grade nuclear fuel that is at the heart of fears that Iran could manufacture 10 or more nuclear weapons would remain inside Iranian territory, within reach of a wounded Iranian government that may be more motivated than ever to turn that fuel into weapons.​

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“People are going to have to go and get it,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said just as the war began, alluding to a ground operation to retrieve the material from deep underground storage in the heart of Iran, an immensely risky operation that Trump has said he is considering but not ready to order.​

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Would Trump ever be ready to commit to the fateful "boots on the ground"?

And your credentials for assessing this are…..?

 

[Darkwind]

I would venture that the elimination of Iran's nuclear capability would allow him to escape with a defensible justification.

Anything less, and, to use a favorite Trump appellation, he's a loser.

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If Trump leaves now, the stockpile of near-bomb-grade nuclear fuel that is at the heart of fears that Iran could manufacture 10 or more nuclear weapons would remain inside Iranian territory, within reach of a wounded Iranian government that may be more motivated than ever to turn that fuel into weapons.​

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“People are going to have to go and get it,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said just as the war began, alluding to a ground operation to retrieve the material from deep underground storage in the heart of Iran, an immensely risky operation that Trump has said he is considering but not ready to order.​

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Would Trump ever be ready to commit to the fateful "boots on the ground"?

Who are you trying to fool?

You have already made the declaration of defeat in your own mind and the Democrats with the exception of one, have already declared defeat of America at Irans hands.

 

[Captain Creeper]

Honestly, I am happy just knowing we blasted a shit-ton of Iranian Revolutionary trash to bits all over the desert. We should do it annually. Call it "Yahweh's Revenge Day!"

 

[pknopp]

Someone just give him a stupid trophy.

 

[Mashmont]

Aș long as the Strait of Hormuz is closed, the US can’t leave.

Trump can declare it is safe, but until the Insurance companies agree, it will remain closed

And what was your experience in military strategy again?

 

[BackAgain]

The OP pretends to “ask” a supposed “question,” but is clearly not able to grasp that the answer was already provided by the President.

1. Primarily, no nuclear weapons for the Iranian government (and no program to produce any).

2. Free Iranian people.

3. A government of their choice.

 

[Chuz Life]

Iran has no 2nd Amendment and Iranian citizens have no guns

Neither did we.

Until we did.

 

[Mac1958]

In the sequel to Citizen Kane, the final scene fades to black as the camera slowly zooms back from an ever-diminishing old man sitting alone in an enormous, glitzy ballroom.

It's not impossible that they just keep bombing until enough of the Guard decides to give up, including control of the Strait. No doubt Israel has some intelligence on the ground there, pointing people out, like that huge meeting the first day.

That would be my guess regarding any kind of "plan". But right now, all reports are that the Guard is still firmly in control of the populace. So that could mean several more days/weeks of bombing.

 

[Mac-7]

In the sequel to Citizen Kane, the final scene fades to black as the camera slowly zooms back from an ever-diminishing old man sitting alone in an enormous, glitzy ballroom.

Dont count your chickens before they hatch

The Trump and US could very well come out of this sitting pretty

 

[pknopp]

It's not impossible that they just keep bombing until enough of the Guard decides to give up, including control of the Strait. No doubt Israel has some intelligence on the ground there, pointing people out, like that huge meeting the first day.

That would be my guess regarding any kind of "plan". But right now, all reports are that the Guard is still firmly in control of the populace. So that could mean several more days/weeks of bombing.

We did that for 20 years in Afghanistan.

How did that work?

 

[Mac-7]

Neither did we.

Until we did.

They dont have guns now when they need them

 

[Rawley]

I would venture that the elimination of Iran's nuclear capability would allow him to escape with a defensible justification.

Anything less, and, to use a favorite Trump appellation, he's a loser.

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If Trump leaves now, the stockpile of near-bomb-grade nuclear fuel that is at the heart of fears that Iran could manufacture 10 or more nuclear weapons would remain inside Iranian territory, within reach of a wounded Iranian government that may be more motivated than ever to turn that fuel into weapons.​

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“People are going to have to go and get it,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said just as the war began, alluding to a ground operation to retrieve the material from deep underground storage in the heart of Iran, an immensely risky operation that Trump has said he is considering but not ready to order.​

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Would Trump ever be ready to commit to the fateful "boots on the ground"?

Objective #1: Destroying Iran's missile capabilities

Objective #2: Knocking off Iran's navy

Objective #3: Ensuring Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon

Objective #4: Ensuring the Iranian regime cannot arm, fund, and direct terrorist armies outside their borders

 

[Mac1958]

We did that for 20 years in Afghanistan.

How did that work?

We don't learn stuff.

 

[Winston]

It's not impossible that they just keep bombing until enough of the Guard decides to give up, including control of the Strait. No doubt Israel has some intelligence on the ground there, pointing people out, like that huge meeting the first day.

That would be my guess regarding any kind of "plan". But right now, all reports are that the Guard is still firmly in control of the populace. So that could mean several more days/weeks of bombing.

We don't have the missiles to last more than three more months at this pace.

 

[Mac1958]

We don't have the missiles to last more than three more months at this pace.

Yup. And aren't we quickly running out of interceptors too?

It's not a good plan, but Trump's in a box now.

 

[my2¢]

Trump claims victory regardless of the facts, so there is nothing he really needs to achieve.

 

[1srelluc]

So how long do you suppose it would take to find/kill all targets in an area of such size? Not to mention 1500 miles + of coastline and a highly militarized infrastructure.

Damn, some of you people don't have a clue.

 

[Winston]

Yup. And aren't we quickly running out of interceptors too?

It's not a good plan, but Trump's in a box now.

Yes, the biggest scarcity is air-to-air missiles. And it is not that it was not a good plan, it is there was no plan.

 

[DGS49]

Parenthetically, "Israel claims to have killed Iran’s national security chief in an overnight strike on Tehran. Ali Larijani was thought to have been the de facto leader of Iran since June, making this Israel’s most disruptive assassination yet." [from The Telegraph"].

If Trump withdrew TODAY, he could credibly declare victory and list all that has been accomplished, passing off the ball - so to speak - to the citizens of that great nation, to effect "regime change," if and when they can.

"We" would of course remain a threat to the regime in that any time in the future they do something outrageous, "we" will punish them disproportionately and quickly.

If yinz Democrats would open your fukkin eyes, you would see that there is a veritable cornucopia of good stuff happening all around the world because of Our Incompetent President's initiatives, from Venezuela, to Ukraine, to Greenland, to Cuba, to the Panama Canal, to China and the Kremlin. And lest we forget, he closed the border, made us energy independent, is getting rid of millions of illegals every couple months, and rectified our trade relationships with a whole house of nations. Not that I expect any kudos from your sorry asses.

You know, the Epstein Files, and all that. Can't forget the Epstein files.