Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles

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I guess Gruesome Newsome likes power outages....pure 3rd world style living in the golden state....
These leftists idiots cant generate enough power to run air conditioners but want to add millions of electric vehicles to the grid. This type of stupidity has to be taught.
Some on the left are advocating for upgrading our energy grid and placing some of it underground to help prevent future forest fires. Right wingers simply don't care if it is not about their short term Profit.
Got a link on that BS?

I know what it costs to run underground power 200 ft from the pole to my house. If you feel these idiot politicians will change overhead power to underground power, you're fricken dreaming.
The fires burning in California are more expensive and we don't need any power outages. And, upgrading infrastructure stimulates our economy and enables greater efficiencies.
 

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Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
We need infrastructure upgrade now to also stimulate our economy!
Maybe Gavan should have thought about that before he killed his economy
States can't print their own money and right wing tax cut economics ensures we never have enough money. Why do right wing allege to "hate the nanny-State" but love our nanny-State alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror?
Its always about the endless increases in programs. Never ending. Hidden taxes that strangles the common citizen who tries to be civil and follow the rules while others play the "system" with no conscience and survive through stealing from others.
I blame the right wing for their nanny-Statism while alleging they are not really like that in socialism threads.
Californa is a nanny state moron
Having nothing but ad hominems is even more, moronic.
Moron if you believe me calling Californa a nanny state was an ad hominem well moron you don't know what a nanny state is

nanny state
noun [ C ]
mainly UK disapproving

UK

/ˌnæn.i ˈsteɪt/ US

/ˌnæn.i ˈsteɪt/

a government that tries to give too much advice or make too many laws about how people should live their lives, especially about eating, smoking, or drinking alcohol:
The government was accused of trying to create a nanny state when it announced new guidelines on healthy eating.
Abolish our useless nanny-State alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror, right wingers. We don't need your nanny-State socialism on a national or international basis. We have a common Defense clause not a common Offense clause nor a general warfare clause. All of that money could have been going to upgrade infrastructure the whole time.
I think it's funny as shit that you don't know what a nanny state is
The general welfare instead of what right wingers prefer, the general warfare?
no dumbass it's called being dictator telling others what they can and cannot do or have
We have a First Amendment; not bright enough to insist on faithful execution of our Commerce clause and the market based economy it implies? Only right wingers are that clueless and that Causeless. Our useless and expensive and alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror you all also don't want to pay for with real times of War, Tax Rates, are worse and only create more refugees for you right wingers to complain about.
you have shown that you do not understand what a nanny state is. how old are you? or are you just trolling?
You have shown you are special pleading. Socialism on a national or international basis is a form of nanny-Statism.
What is a nanny State?
Public sector intervention in private sector markets.
 
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I guess Gruesome Newsome likes power outages....pure 3rd world style living in the golden state....
These leftists idiots cant generate enough power to run air conditioners but want to add millions of electric vehicles to the grid. This type of stupidity has to be taught.
Some on the left are advocating for upgrading our energy grid and placing some of it underground to help prevent future forest fires. Right wingers simply don't care if it is not about their short term Profit.
Got a link on that BS?

I know what it costs to run underground power 200 ft from the pole to my house. If you feel these idiot politicians will change overhead power to underground power, you're fricken dreaming.
The fires burning in California are more expensive and we don't need any power outages. And, upgrading infrastructure stimulates our economy and enables greater efficiencies.
So you don't have a link? Just smoking out your bullshit.
 
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I guess Gruesome Newsome likes power outages....pure 3rd world style living in the golden state....
These leftists idiots cant generate enough power to run air conditioners but want to add millions of electric vehicles to the grid. This type of stupidity has to be taught.
Some on the left are advocating for upgrading our energy grid and placing some of it underground to help prevent future forest fires. Right wingers simply don't care if it is not about their short term Profit.
Got a link on that BS?

I know what it costs to run underground power 200 ft from the pole to my house. If you feel these idiot politicians will change overhead power to underground power, you're fricken dreaming.
The fires burning in California are more expensive and we don't need any power outages. And, upgrading infrastructure stimulates our economy and enables greater efficiencies.
So you don't have a link? Just smoking out your bullshit.
Yep, it's funny. Funny how easy it is to show you always have nothing but BS.
 

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I guess Gruesome Newsome likes power outages....pure 3rd world style living in the golden state....
These leftists idiots cant generate enough power to run air conditioners but want to add millions of electric vehicles to the grid. This type of stupidity has to be taught.
Some on the left are advocating for upgrading our energy grid and placing some of it underground to help prevent future forest fires. Right wingers simply don't care if it is not about their short term Profit.
Got a link on that BS?

I know what it costs to run underground power 200 ft from the pole to my house. If you feel these idiot politicians will change overhead power to underground power, you're fricken dreaming.
The fires burning in California are more expensive and we don't need any power outages. And, upgrading infrastructure stimulates our economy and enables greater efficiencies.
So you don't have a link? Just smoking out your bullshit.
Some on the left are advocating for it. It is currently more expensive, but fires can be worse. And, I was in the LA area and saw how they were digging up the street and drilling horizontally. New technologies could make it less expensive along with better insulation technologies. And, we would no longer need to worry about hurricanes and other weather related phenomena, or any fires started by overhead transmission failures.
 
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I guess Gruesome Newsome likes power outages....pure 3rd world style living in the golden state....
These leftists idiots cant generate enough power to run air conditioners but want to add millions of electric vehicles to the grid. This type of stupidity has to be taught.
Some on the left are advocating for upgrading our energy grid and placing some of it underground to help prevent future forest fires. Right wingers simply don't care if it is not about their short term Profit.
Got a link on that BS?

I know what it costs to run underground power 200 ft from the pole to my house. If you feel these idiot politicians will change overhead power to underground power, you're fricken dreaming.
The fires burning in California are more expensive and we don't need any power outages. And, upgrading infrastructure stimulates our economy and enables greater efficiencies.
So you don't have a link? Just smoking out your bullshit.
Some on the left are advocating for it. It is currently more expensive, but fires can be worse. And, I was in the LA area and saw how they were digging up the street and drilling horizontally. New technologies could make it less expensive along with better insulation technologies. And, we would no longer need to worry about hurricanes and other weather related phenomena, or any fires started by overhead transmission failures.
Not saying it's not better, saying you're full of BS and not happening.
 
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I guess Gruesome Newsome likes power outages....pure 3rd world style living in the golden state....
These leftists idiots cant generate enough power to run air conditioners but want to add millions of electric vehicles to the grid. This type of stupidity has to be taught.
Some on the left are advocating for upgrading our energy grid and placing some of it underground to help prevent future forest fires. Right wingers simply don't care if it is not about their short term Profit.
Got a link on that BS?

I know what it costs to run underground power 200 ft from the pole to my house. If you feel these idiot politicians will change overhead power to underground power, you're fricken dreaming.
The fires burning in California are more expensive and we don't need any power outages. And, upgrading infrastructure stimulates our economy and enables greater efficiencies.
So you don't have a link? Just smoking out your bullshit.
Some on the left are advocating for it. It is currently more expensive, but fires can be worse. And, I was in the LA area and saw how they were digging up the street and drilling horizontally. New technologies could make it less expensive along with better insulation technologies. And, we would no longer need to worry about hurricanes and other weather related phenomena, or any fires started by overhead transmission failures.
A new 138 kV overhead line costs approximately $390,000 per mile as opposed to $2 million per mile for underground (without the terminals).

Underground vs. Overhead: Power Line Installation-Cost Comparison and Mitigation - POWERGrid International
 

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No argument here, it’s a proven fact, California is the land of fruits and nuts, with a walnut leading the march.

As for the argument that if America were carbon neutral it would cure global warming, nothing but bullshit. Which pretty much explains California. After screwing up their state the rich will make a quick exit leaving the middle class and poor with the remnants.
 

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Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
/—-/ democRATs think the Climate never changed before the 1890s when the first gas engines were being built.
Climate changed during the Industrial Revolution; the English proved it with their peppered moth.
And the Glacier Bay glacier receding 60 miles in 40 years during the 1800’s was caused by ......
/—-/ Air conditioners.
 

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Dear moderators, if right wingers have no problem with ad hominems instead of valid arguments, I don't want to get banned for repeating my rhetoric. Or, y'all are just plain hypocrites and fakes. And, everyone should vote blue and not red.
you should be banned for spamming false information
You are more false and have nothing but fallacy. Why haven't You been banned? Right wing bias of moderators who don't seem to care about fallacy or sublime Truth (value) discoverable through argumentation?
/—-/ May I have some Ranch dressing with your word salad?
 

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Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
 

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Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
So he's a democrat now?
 

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Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
Lol, continue to make your life more expensive, for a hoax!
 

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Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
I word for word quoted you in the second paragraph, jackass.

And as for health and science, you're the one who opposes effective green solutions in pursuit of ones we aren't technologically evolved enough to do successfully.

You're the anti-science guy, Bill Deny
 

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Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
I word for word quoted you in the second paragraph, jackass.

And as for health and science, you're the one who opposes effective green solutions in pursuit of ones we aren't technologically evolved enough to do successfully.

You're the anti-science guy, Bill Deny
Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
I word for word quoted you in the second paragraph, jackass.

And as for health and science, you're the one who opposes effective green solutions in pursuit of ones we aren't technologically evolved enough to do successfully.

You're the anti-science guy, Bill Deny
An opening topic sentence calling me a jackass is proof you can't write a rebuttal to anything I've posted; your anger is emotional, palpable and irrational. I suggest you take a deep breath out of the tailpipe of any car running an internal combustion engine and enjoy the sweet taste of carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides, and hydrocarbons.
 

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Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
I word for word quoted you in the second paragraph, jackass.

And as for health and science, you're the one who opposes effective green solutions in pursuit of ones we aren't technologically evolved enough to do successfully.

You're the anti-science guy, Bill Deny
Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
I word for word quoted you in the second paragraph, jackass.

And as for health and science, you're the one who opposes effective green solutions in pursuit of ones we aren't technologically evolved enough to do successfully.

You're the anti-science guy, Bill Deny
An opening topic sentence calling me a jackass is proof you can't write a rebuttal to anything I've posted; your anger is emotional, palpable and irrational. I suggest you take a deep breath out of the tailpipe of any car running an internal combustion engine and enjoy the sweet taste of carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides, and hydrocarbons.
My God you're a hypocrite. The firsts sentence of your post I responded to:

Rye: "Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool."

Jackass
 

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Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
I word for word quoted you in the second paragraph, jackass.

And as for health and science, you're the one who opposes effective green solutions in pursuit of ones we aren't technologically evolved enough to do successfully.

You're the anti-science guy, Bill Deny
Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
I word for word quoted you in the second paragraph, jackass.

And as for health and science, you're the one who opposes effective green solutions in pursuit of ones we aren't technologically evolved enough to do successfully.

You're the anti-science guy, Bill Deny
An opening topic sentence calling me a jackass is proof you can't write a rebuttal to anything I've posted; your anger is emotional, palpable and irrational. I suggest you take a deep breath out of the tailpipe of any car running an internal combustion engine and enjoy the sweet taste of carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides, and hydrocarbons.
My God you're a hypocrite. The firsts sentence of your post I responded to:

Rye: "Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool."

Jackass
You're a liar. But, I'll give you the opportunity to find a post wherein I stated exactly what you've claimed. If you cannot do so you will lose any credibility you might have.
 

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Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
I word for word quoted you in the second paragraph, jackass.

And as for health and science, you're the one who opposes effective green solutions in pursuit of ones we aren't technologically evolved enough to do successfully.

You're the anti-science guy, Bill Deny
Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
I word for word quoted you in the second paragraph, jackass.

And as for health and science, you're the one who opposes effective green solutions in pursuit of ones we aren't technologically evolved enough to do successfully.

You're the anti-science guy, Bill Deny
An opening topic sentence calling me a jackass is proof you can't write a rebuttal to anything I've posted; your anger is emotional, palpable and irrational. I suggest you take a deep breath out of the tailpipe of any car running an internal combustion engine and enjoy the sweet taste of carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides, and hydrocarbons.
My God you're a hypocrite. The firsts sentence of your post I responded to:

Rye: "Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool."

Jackass
You're a liar. But, I'll give you the opportunity to find a post wherein I stated exactly what you've claimed. If you cannot do so you will lose any credibility you might have.
Here you go. If you don't man up to admit you were wrong and I was right, never ask for a quote or a link again

"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
 
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Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
I word for word quoted you in the second paragraph, jackass.

And as for health and science, you're the one who opposes effective green solutions in pursuit of ones we aren't technologically evolved enough to do successfully.

You're the anti-science guy, Bill Deny
Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban
Good for Gov. Newsom; it's too bad the author of this post is fear mongering; mocking an issue which is one of the top challenges facing the earth and humanity today.
What is your solution? Since there isn't one available yet.
The Green New Deal. We've done our part, we've put solar panels on our roof, drive a Chevy Bolt (all electric) & a RAV 4 hybrid, the latter to soon be replaced by the Ford Escape, PHEV; own an e-bike, have a well to irrigate our garden (pump is also solar); we compost and use it to grow veggies organically; and try to avoid plastics.
You do things that make you feel self righteous while opposing the things that would make a difference. Nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Leftist policies are about feeling smug and superior over making a difference
"Leftist policies"? Your biases are so full of shit it stinks over the internet. Climate Change is real, it's not a hoax like you've been directed to believe by the polluters and Dumb Donald; those who put profit and power over reality and our planet.

BTW, I support New Generation Nuclear Power, along with Solar, Wind and hydroelectric energy producers. Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement.

.
If it was real, we wouldn't be here today. The first prediction that we would be extinct in 2000. Well we are still here. Then of course we had Gores prediction which was crap.
Rye is just fundamentally dishonest. From his post, " Coal is dirty, there is no such thing as clean coal and facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

He thinks the ice caps are going to melt, the oceans boil and the cities drown. But no fracking because "facking also puts pollutants in the environement."

Well, then, so we don't get our way, our solution isn't perfect. So we don't get our way. But fortunately for him, he decided he doesn't need a perfect solution. Just we do
Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool.

You get your way, that is profit before science and health. You have no solution, no common sense and will continue to ignore reality.
I word for word quoted you in the second paragraph, jackass.

And as for health and science, you're the one who opposes effective green solutions in pursuit of ones we aren't technologically evolved enough to do successfully.

You're the anti-science guy, Bill Deny
An opening topic sentence calling me a jackass is proof you can't write a rebuttal to anything I've posted; your anger is emotional, palpable and irrational. I suggest you take a deep breath out of the tailpipe of any car running an internal combustion engine and enjoy the sweet taste of carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides, and hydrocarbons.
My God you're a hypocrite. The firsts sentence of your post I responded to:

Rye: "Your second paragraph does not reflect anything I've posted, thus you are not only dishonest, you're both ignorant and a biddable fool."

Jackass
You're a liar. But, I'll give you the opportunity to find a post wherein I stated exactly what you've claimed. If you cannot do so you will lose any credibility you might have.

Dood, WTF, no need to yell.
 

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