Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

I guess Gruesome Newsome likes power outages....pure 3rd world style living in the golden state....

These leftists idiots cant generate enough power to run air conditioners but want to add millions of electric vehicles to the grid. This type of stupidity has to be taught.

Some on the left are advocating for upgrading our energy grid and placing some of it underground to help prevent future forest fires. Right wingers simply don't care if it is not about their short term Profit.

Got a link on that BS?

I know what it costs to run underground power 200 ft from the pole to my house. If you feel these idiot politicians will change overhead power to underground power, you're fricken dreaming.

The fires burning in California are more expensive and we don't need any power outages. And, upgrading infrastructure stimulates our economy and enables greater efficiencies.

So you don't have a link? Just smoking out your bullshit.

Some on the left are advocating for it. It is currently more expensive, but fires can be worse. And, I was in the LA area and saw how they were digging up the street and drilling horizontally. New technologies could make it less expensive along with better insulation technologies. And, we would no longer need to worry about hurricanes and other weather related phenomena, or any fires started by overhead transmission failures.

A new 138 kV overhead line costs approximately $390,000 per mile as opposed to $2 million per mile for underground (without the terminals).

Underground vs. Overhead: Power Line Installation-Cost Comparison and Mitigation - POWERGrid International

Add on 200,000 per mile for regular government incompetence and another 500,000 for California extra heavy duty incompetence and that's one expensive mile of underground.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Let’s see. The low income people living in apartments will have no place to charge their vehicles that they had to buy at twice the cost of a gas vehicle.

Why do the Left hate the poor?

Upgrade infrastructure to help stimulate our economy!

Infrastructure upgrades?
I’m still waiting for you to give us the status of your train to nowhere California has been building the last 20 years. Do you know the transcontinental railroad took 7 years which included going over the Sierra Mountains?

Then we can get an update on why Californians don’t have enough drinking water and electricity.

Then you can tell us why it takes 2 hours to travel 5 miles on California freeways.

Then you can tell us how to manage forests to prevent mega wildfires.

Yes, California and infrastructure!

 

[danielpalos]

I guess Gruesome Newsome likes power outages....pure 3rd world style living in the golden state....

These leftists idiots cant generate enough power to run air conditioners but want to add millions of electric vehicles to the grid. This type of stupidity has to be taught.

Some on the left are advocating for upgrading our energy grid and placing some of it underground to help prevent future forest fires. Right wingers simply don't care if it is not about their short term Profit.

Got a link on that BS?

I know what it costs to run underground power 200 ft from the pole to my house. If you feel these idiot politicians will change overhead power to underground power, you're fricken dreaming.

The fires burning in California are more expensive and we don't need any power outages. And, upgrading infrastructure stimulates our economy and enables greater efficiencies.

So you don't have a link? Just smoking out your bullshit.

Some on the left are advocating for it. It is currently more expensive, but fires can be worse. And, I was in the LA area and saw how they were digging up the street and drilling horizontally. New technologies could make it less expensive along with better insulation technologies. And, we would no longer need to worry about hurricanes and other weather related phenomena, or any fires started by overhead transmission failures.

A new 138 kV overhead line costs approximately $390,000 per mile as opposed to $2 million per mile for underground (without the terminals).

Underground vs. Overhead: Power Line Installation-Cost Comparison and Mitigation - POWERGrid International

Hopefully better technology can reduce the cost. From my skimming of some literature, insulation technologies could help make installation a mostly one time cost if power lines don't degrade their insulation over time.

 

[danielpalos]

Dear moderators, if right wingers have no problem with ad hominems instead of valid arguments, I don't want to get banned for repeating my rhetoric. Or, y'all are just plain hypocrites and fakes. And, everyone should vote blue and not red.

you should be banned for spamming false information

You are more false and have nothing but fallacy. Why haven't You been banned? Right wing bias of moderators who don't seem to care about fallacy or sublime Truth (value) discoverable through argumentation?

/—-/ May I have some Ranch dressing with your word salad?

My rhetoric is better. You should get banned for such superficial retorts with nothing but ad hominem value.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Dear moderators, if right wingers have no problem with ad hominems instead of valid arguments, I don't want to get banned for repeating my rhetoric. Or, y'all are just plain hypocrites and fakes. And, everyone should vote blue and not red.

you should be banned for spamming false information

You are more false and have nothing but fallacy. Why haven't You been banned? Right wing bias of moderators who don't seem to care about fallacy or sublime Truth (value) discoverable through argumentation?

/—-/ May I have some Ranch dressing with your word salad?

My rhetoric is better. You should get banned for such superficial retorts with nothing but ad hominem value.

/——-/ “care about fallacy or sublime Truth (value) discoverable through argumentation?”
Yeah, clear as a bell. Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha. Soaring rhetoric Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban

We need infrastructure upgrade now to also stimulate our economy!

Maybe Gavan should have thought about that before he killed his economy

States can't print their own money and right wing tax cut economics ensures we never have enough money. Why do right wing allege to "hate the nanny-State" but love our nanny-State alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror?

Its always about the endless increases in programs. Never ending. Hidden taxes that strangles the common citizen who tries to be civil and follow the rules while others play the "system" with no conscience and survive through stealing from others.

I blame the right wing for their nanny-Statism while alleging they are not really like that in socialism threads.

Californa is a nanny state moron

Having nothing but ad hominems is even more, moronic.

Moron if you believe me calling Californa a nanny state was an ad hominem well moron you don't know what a nanny state is

nanny state
noun [ C ]
mainly UK disapproving

UK

/ˌnæn.i ˈsteɪt/ US

/ˌnæn.i ˈsteɪt/

a government that tries to give too much advice or make too many laws about how people should live their lives, especially about eating, smoking, or drinking alcohol:
The government was accused of trying to create a nanny state when it announced new guidelines on healthy eating.

Abolish our useless nanny-State alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror, right wingers. We don't need your nanny-State socialism on a national or international basis. We have a common Defense clause not a common Offense clause nor a general warfare clause. All of that money could have been going to upgrade infrastructure the whole time.

I think it's funny as shit that you don't know what a nanny state is

The general welfare instead of what right wingers prefer, the general warfare?

no dumbass it's called being dictator telling others what they can and cannot do or have

We have a First Amendment; not bright enough to insist on faithful execution of our Commerce clause and the market based economy it implies? Only right wingers are that clueless and that Causeless. Our useless and expensive and alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror you all also don't want to pay for with real times of War, Tax Rates, are worse and only create more refugees for you right wingers to complain about.

you have shown that you do not understand what a nanny state is. how old are you? or are you just trolling?

You have shown you are special pleading. Socialism on a national or international basis is a form of nanny-Statism.

What is a nanny State?

Public sector intervention in private sector markets.

I see you still have not learned what a nanny State is. New York is another nanny State

 

[Thinker101]

I guess Gruesome Newsome likes power outages....pure 3rd world style living in the golden state....

These leftists idiots cant generate enough power to run air conditioners but want to add millions of electric vehicles to the grid. This type of stupidity has to be taught.

Some on the left are advocating for upgrading our energy grid and placing some of it underground to help prevent future forest fires. Right wingers simply don't care if it is not about their short term Profit.

Got a link on that BS?

I know what it costs to run underground power 200 ft from the pole to my house. If you feel these idiot politicians will change overhead power to underground power, you're fricken dreaming.

The fires burning in California are more expensive and we don't need any power outages. And, upgrading infrastructure stimulates our economy and enables greater efficiencies.

So you don't have a link? Just smoking out your bullshit.

Some on the left are advocating for it. It is currently more expensive, but fires can be worse. And, I was in the LA area and saw how they were digging up the street and drilling horizontally. New technologies could make it less expensive along with better insulation technologies. And, we would no longer need to worry about hurricanes and other weather related phenomena, or any fires started by overhead transmission failures.

A new 138 kV overhead line costs approximately $390,000 per mile as opposed to $2 million per mile for underground (without the terminals).

Underground vs. Overhead: Power Line Installation-Cost Comparison and Mitigation - POWERGrid International

Hopefully better technology can reduce the cost. From my skimming of some literature, insulation technologies could help make installation a mostly one time cost if power lines don't degrade their insulation over time.

Sure, Newsom will get on that right away. I can guarantee that technology won't be available by 2035, I can also guarantee very little (if anything) will change in the next 15 years....except the prices, those will go up.

 

[Nova78]

Gov. Gavin Newsom = Dipshit,and the morons who voted for him.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I guess Gruesome Newsome likes power outages....pure 3rd world style living in the golden state....

These leftists idiots cant generate enough power to run air conditioners but want to add millions of electric vehicles to the grid. This type of stupidity has to be taught.

Some on the left are advocating for upgrading our energy grid and placing some of it underground to help prevent future forest fires. Right wingers simply don't care if it is not about their short term Profit.

Got a link on that BS?

I know what it costs to run underground power 200 ft from the pole to my house. If you feel these idiot politicians will change overhead power to underground power, you're fricken dreaming.

The fires burning in California are more expensive and we don't need any power outages. And, upgrading infrastructure stimulates our economy and enables greater efficiencies.

So you don't have a link? Just smoking out your bullshit.

Some on the left are advocating for it. It is currently more expensive, but fires can be worse. And, I was in the LA area and saw how they were digging up the street and drilling horizontally. New technologies could make it less expensive along with better insulation technologies. And, we would no longer need to worry about hurricanes and other weather related phenomena, or any fires started by overhead transmission failures.

A new 138 kV overhead line costs approximately $390,000 per mile as opposed to $2 million per mile for underground (without the terminals).

Underground vs. Overhead: Power Line Installation-Cost Comparison and Mitigation - POWERGrid International

Hopefully better technology can reduce the cost. From my skimming of some literature, insulation technologies could help make installation a mostly one time cost if power lines don't degrade their insulation over time.

Sure, Newsom will get on that right away. I can guarantee that technology won't be available by 2035, I can also guarantee very little (if anything) will change in the next 15 years....except the prices, those will go up.

/---/ These Azzclowns pushed electric cars as safe and reliable then promptly shut off power in parts of the state and the electrics sat in the owner's garage dead as a doornail. But no reason not to trust these brainfarts.

 

[Thinker101]

I guess Gruesome Newsome likes power outages....pure 3rd world style living in the golden state....

These leftists idiots cant generate enough power to run air conditioners but want to add millions of electric vehicles to the grid. This type of stupidity has to be taught.

Some on the left are advocating for upgrading our energy grid and placing some of it underground to help prevent future forest fires. Right wingers simply don't care if it is not about their short term Profit.

Got a link on that BS?

I know what it costs to run underground power 200 ft from the pole to my house. If you feel these idiot politicians will change overhead power to underground power, you're fricken dreaming.

The fires burning in California are more expensive and we don't need any power outages. And, upgrading infrastructure stimulates our economy and enables greater efficiencies.

So you don't have a link? Just smoking out your bullshit.

Some on the left are advocating for it. It is currently more expensive, but fires can be worse. And, I was in the LA area and saw how they were digging up the street and drilling horizontally. New technologies could make it less expensive along with better insulation technologies. And, we would no longer need to worry about hurricanes and other weather related phenomena, or any fires started by overhead transmission failures.

A new 138 kV overhead line costs approximately $390,000 per mile as opposed to $2 million per mile for underground (without the terminals).

Underground vs. Overhead: Power Line Installation-Cost Comparison and Mitigation - POWERGrid International

Hopefully better technology can reduce the cost. From my skimming of some literature, insulation technologies could help make installation a mostly one time cost if power lines don't degrade their insulation over time.

Sure, Newsom will get on that right away. I can guarantee that technology won't be available by 2035, I can also guarantee very little (if anything) will change in the next 15 years....except the prices, those will go up.

/---/ These Azzclowns pushed electric cars as safe and reliable then promptly shut off power in parts of the state and the electrics sat in the owner's garage dead as a doornail. But no reason not to thrust these brainfarts.

Ain't that the truth.

 

[Rigby5]

Electric cars are far dirtier than a bio diesel, that actually cleans the air more than it pollutes.
I live in New Mexico, and most of the electrical power in CA comes from coal fired electric plants in NM that are owned by CA.

 

[danielpalos]

Dear moderators, if right wingers have no problem with ad hominems instead of valid arguments, I don't want to get banned for repeating my rhetoric. Or, y'all are just plain hypocrites and fakes. And, everyone should vote blue and not red.

you should be banned for spamming false information

You are more false and have nothing but fallacy. Why haven't You been banned? Right wing bias of moderators who don't seem to care about fallacy or sublime Truth (value) discoverable through argumentation?

/—-/ May I have some Ranch dressing with your word salad?

My rhetoric is better. You should get banned for such superficial retorts with nothing but ad hominem value.

/——-/ “care about fallacy or sublime Truth (value) discoverable through argumentation?”
Yeah, clear as a bell. Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha. Soaring rhetoric Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha

I am working on dumbing it down for the right wing. It can be a challenge and take time.

 

[danielpalos]

Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban

We need infrastructure upgrade now to also stimulate our economy!

Maybe Gavan should have thought about that before he killed his economy

States can't print their own money and right wing tax cut economics ensures we never have enough money. Why do right wing allege to "hate the nanny-State" but love our nanny-State alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror?

Its always about the endless increases in programs. Never ending. Hidden taxes that strangles the common citizen who tries to be civil and follow the rules while others play the "system" with no conscience and survive through stealing from others.

I blame the right wing for their nanny-Statism while alleging they are not really like that in socialism threads.

Californa is a nanny state moron

Having nothing but ad hominems is even more, moronic.

Moron if you believe me calling Californa a nanny state was an ad hominem well moron you don't know what a nanny state is

nanny state
noun [ C ]
mainly UK disapproving

UK

/ˌnæn.i ˈsteɪt/ US

/ˌnæn.i ˈsteɪt/

a government that tries to give too much advice or make too many laws about how people should live their lives, especially about eating, smoking, or drinking alcohol:
The government was accused of trying to create a nanny state when it announced new guidelines on healthy eating.

Abolish our useless nanny-State alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror, right wingers. We don't need your nanny-State socialism on a national or international basis. We have a common Defense clause not a common Offense clause nor a general warfare clause. All of that money could have been going to upgrade infrastructure the whole time.

I think it's funny as shit that you don't know what a nanny state is

The general welfare instead of what right wingers prefer, the general warfare?

no dumbass it's called being dictator telling others what they can and cannot do or have

We have a First Amendment; not bright enough to insist on faithful execution of our Commerce clause and the market based economy it implies? Only right wingers are that clueless and that Causeless. Our useless and expensive and alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror you all also don't want to pay for with real times of War, Tax Rates, are worse and only create more refugees for you right wingers to complain about.

you have shown that you do not understand what a nanny state is. how old are you? or are you just trolling?

You have shown you are special pleading. Socialism on a national or international basis is a form of nanny-Statism.

What is a nanny State?

Public sector intervention in private sector markets.

I see you still have not learned what a nanny State is. New York is another nanny State

True free market Capitalism is not what right wingers believe in. Any public sector intervention could be a "necessary and proper evil". A nanny-State. Government is socialism and socialism requires social morals for free unlike capitalism which can buy capital morality for a market friendly price.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban

We need infrastructure upgrade now to also stimulate our economy!

Maybe Gavan should have thought about that before he killed his economy

States can't print their own money and right wing tax cut economics ensures we never have enough money. Why do right wing allege to "hate the nanny-State" but love our nanny-State alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror?

Its always about the endless increases in programs. Never ending. Hidden taxes that strangles the common citizen who tries to be civil and follow the rules while others play the "system" with no conscience and survive through stealing from others.

I blame the right wing for their nanny-Statism while alleging they are not really like that in socialism threads.

Californa is a nanny state moron

Having nothing but ad hominems is even more, moronic.

Moron if you believe me calling Californa a nanny state was an ad hominem well moron you don't know what a nanny state is

nanny state
noun [ C ]
mainly UK disapproving

UK

/ˌnæn.i ˈsteɪt/ US

/ˌnæn.i ˈsteɪt/

a government that tries to give too much advice or make too many laws about how people should live their lives, especially about eating, smoking, or drinking alcohol:
The government was accused of trying to create a nanny state when it announced new guidelines on healthy eating.

Abolish our useless nanny-State alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror, right wingers. We don't need your nanny-State socialism on a national or international basis. We have a common Defense clause not a common Offense clause nor a general warfare clause. All of that money could have been going to upgrade infrastructure the whole time.

I think it's funny as shit that you don't know what a nanny state is

The general welfare instead of what right wingers prefer, the general warfare?

no dumbass it's called being dictator telling others what they can and cannot do or have

We have a First Amendment; not bright enough to insist on faithful execution of our Commerce clause and the market based economy it implies? Only right wingers are that clueless and that Causeless. Our useless and expensive and alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror you all also don't want to pay for with real times of War, Tax Rates, are worse and only create more refugees for you right wingers to complain about.

you have shown that you do not understand what a nanny state is. how old are you? or are you just trolling?

You have shown you are special pleading. Socialism on a national or international basis is a form of nanny-Statism.

What is a nanny State?

Public sector intervention in private sector markets.

I see you still have not learned what a nanny State is. New York is another nanny State

True free market Capitalism is not what right wingers believe in. Any public sector intervention could be a "necessary and proper evil". A nanny-State. Government is socialism and socialism requires social morals for free unlike capitalism which can buy capital morality for a market friendly price.

You still haven't learned what a nanny State is.

 

[danielpalos]

I guess Gruesome Newsome likes power outages....pure 3rd world style living in the golden state....

These leftists idiots cant generate enough power to run air conditioners but want to add millions of electric vehicles to the grid. This type of stupidity has to be taught.

Some on the left are advocating for upgrading our energy grid and placing some of it underground to help prevent future forest fires. Right wingers simply don't care if it is not about their short term Profit.

Got a link on that BS?

I know what it costs to run underground power 200 ft from the pole to my house. If you feel these idiot politicians will change overhead power to underground power, you're fricken dreaming.

The fires burning in California are more expensive and we don't need any power outages. And, upgrading infrastructure stimulates our economy and enables greater efficiencies.

So you don't have a link? Just smoking out your bullshit.

Some on the left are advocating for it. It is currently more expensive, but fires can be worse. And, I was in the LA area and saw how they were digging up the street and drilling horizontally. New technologies could make it less expensive along with better insulation technologies. And, we would no longer need to worry about hurricanes and other weather related phenomena, or any fires started by overhead transmission failures.

A new 138 kV overhead line costs approximately $390,000 per mile as opposed to $2 million per mile for underground (without the terminals).

Underground vs. Overhead: Power Line Installation-Cost Comparison and Mitigation - POWERGrid International

Hopefully better technology can reduce the cost. From my skimming of some literature, insulation technologies could help make installation a mostly one time cost if power lines don't degrade their insulation over time.

Sure, Newsom will get on that right away. I can guarantee that technology won't be available by 2035, I can also guarantee very little (if anything) will change in the next 15 years....except the prices, those will go up.

More efficient electrical conductor technology can also make a big difference in keeping energy loss low. I still need to read more on using underground HVDC instead of HVAC as is used on overhead transmission lines. One paragraph I read states that energy losses can be as bad as energy consumption on overhead transmission cables since the air acts as an "insulator" for heat dissipation, which is lost energy.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Dear moderators, if right wingers have no problem with ad hominems instead of valid arguments, I don't want to get banned for repeating my rhetoric. Or, y'all are just plain hypocrites and fakes. And, everyone should vote blue and not red.

you should be banned for spamming false information

You are more false and have nothing but fallacy. Why haven't You been banned? Right wing bias of moderators who don't seem to care about fallacy or sublime Truth (value) discoverable through argumentation?

/—-/ May I have some Ranch dressing with your word salad?

My rhetoric is better. You should get banned for such superficial retorts with nothing but ad hominem value.

/——-/ “care about fallacy or sublime Truth (value) discoverable through argumentation?”
Yeah, clear as a bell. Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha. Soaring rhetoric Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha

I am working on dumbing it down for the right wing. It can be a challenge and take time.

It's easy to dumb it down when you're starting with dumb

 

[danielpalos]

Gov. Gavin Newsom = Dipshit,and the morons who voted for him.

What did your Hollywood actor do that was so great as governor?

 

[danielpalos]

Electric cars are far dirtier than a bio diesel, that actually cleans the air more than it pollutes.
I live in New Mexico, and most of the electrical power in CA comes from coal fired electric plants in NM that are owned by CA.

Profile AnalysisPrint State Energy Profile
(overview, data, & analysis)
Last Updated: January 16, 2020
Overview
California is the most populous state in the nation, has the largest economy, and is second only to Texas in total energy consumption.1,2,3 Although California has the world's fifth-largest economy and many energy-intensive industries, the state has one of the lowest per capita energy consumption levels in the United States.4,5,6,7 California's extensive efforts to increase energy efficiency and implement alternative technologies have slowed growth in energy demand.8 The state is also rich in energy resources. California leads the nation in nonhydroelectric renewable-sourced electricity generation and is among the top producers of conventional hydroelectric power.9 In addition, the state has an abundant supply of crude oil and accounts for one-tenth of the U.S. crude oil refining capacity.10,11
...
Due to high electricity demand, California imports more electricity than any other state,[16] (32% of its consumption in 2018[1]) primarily wind and hydroelectric power from states in the Pacific Northwest (via Path 15 and Path 66) and nuclear, coal, and natural gas-fired production from the desert Southwest via Path 46.[17] Imported coal-fired electricity is expected to decline as power agreements expire and the city of Los Angeles phases out its use of such electricity by 2025.[18][19] In 2018, curtailment was 460 GWh, or 0.2% of generation.[20]

Energy in California - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[danielpalos]

Emphasizing that California must stay at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday issued an executive order to restrict new car sales in the state to only zero-emission vehicles by 2035 and threw his support behind a ban on the controversial use of hydraulic fracturing by oil companies. Any questions as to what Democrats want to do?

Newsom orders 2035 phaseout of gas-powered vehicles, calls for fracking ban

We need infrastructure upgrade now to also stimulate our economy!

Maybe Gavan should have thought about that before he killed his economy

States can't print their own money and right wing tax cut economics ensures we never have enough money. Why do right wing allege to "hate the nanny-State" but love our nanny-State alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror?

Its always about the endless increases in programs. Never ending. Hidden taxes that strangles the common citizen who tries to be civil and follow the rules while others play the "system" with no conscience and survive through stealing from others.

I blame the right wing for their nanny-Statism while alleging they are not really like that in socialism threads.

Californa is a nanny state moron

Having nothing but ad hominems is even more, moronic.

Moron if you believe me calling Californa a nanny state was an ad hominem well moron you don't know what a nanny state is

nanny state
noun [ C ]
mainly UK disapproving

UK

/ˌnæn.i ˈsteɪt/ US

/ˌnæn.i ˈsteɪt/

a government that tries to give too much advice or make too many laws about how people should live their lives, especially about eating, smoking, or drinking alcohol:
The government was accused of trying to create a nanny state when it announced new guidelines on healthy eating.

Abolish our useless nanny-State alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror, right wingers. We don't need your nanny-State socialism on a national or international basis. We have a common Defense clause not a common Offense clause nor a general warfare clause. All of that money could have been going to upgrade infrastructure the whole time.

I think it's funny as shit that you don't know what a nanny state is

The general welfare instead of what right wingers prefer, the general warfare?

no dumbass it's called being dictator telling others what they can and cannot do or have

We have a First Amendment; not bright enough to insist on faithful execution of our Commerce clause and the market based economy it implies? Only right wingers are that clueless and that Causeless. Our useless and expensive and alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror you all also don't want to pay for with real times of War, Tax Rates, are worse and only create more refugees for you right wingers to complain about.

you have shown that you do not understand what a nanny state is. how old are you? or are you just trolling?

You have shown you are special pleading. Socialism on a national or international basis is a form of nanny-Statism.

What is a nanny State?

Public sector intervention in private sector markets.

I see you still have not learned what a nanny State is. New York is another nanny State

True free market Capitalism is not what right wingers believe in. Any public sector intervention could be a "necessary and proper evil". A nanny-State. Government is socialism and socialism requires social morals for free unlike capitalism which can buy capital morality for a market friendly price.

You still haven't learned what a nanny State is.

lol. The lack of a right wing paradise of Free Market Capitalism y'all can never achieve. A Commune of Heaven on Earth has more likelihood than your right wing fantasy.

 

[danielpalos]

Dear moderators, if right wingers have no problem with ad hominems instead of valid arguments, I don't want to get banned for repeating my rhetoric. Or, y'all are just plain hypocrites and fakes. And, everyone should vote blue and not red.

you should be banned for spamming false information

You are more false and have nothing but fallacy. Why haven't You been banned? Right wing bias of moderators who don't seem to care about fallacy or sublime Truth (value) discoverable through argumentation?

/—-/ May I have some Ranch dressing with your word salad?

My rhetoric is better. You should get banned for such superficial retorts with nothing but ad hominem value.

/——-/ “care about fallacy or sublime Truth (value) discoverable through argumentation?”
Yeah, clear as a bell. Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha. Soaring rhetoric Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha

I am working on dumbing it down for the right wing. It can be a challenge and take time.

It's easy to dumb it down when you're starting with dumb

It is not as easy as you think, since right wingers cannot do it and have nothing but fallacy (of ad hominems) to prove it almost every time it comes up. Is there a stereotype for that?