New York Governor Kathy Hochul just broke rank with fellow Democrats

[Toddsterpatriot]

And every one of us that have beaten a light is also a criminal, right? Then again, Nixon comitted jay walking compared to your leader, MAGAt.

She said it like a sane person. You are a MAGAt so you won't understand unless your handler explains it to you first.

Right.
And the punishment for my crime is a ticket and for theirs it is immediate deportation.

 

[Orangecat]

She wants to deport criminals and not law abiding illegals.

If you cross our border illegally, you are a criminal.

 

[Vrenn]

Splitting hairs. The bill “accepts” 5,000 illegals a day, rather than allowing 5,000 to enter illegally. Sounds the same to me, but whatever….it is allowing 5,000 more illegals into the country,

You libs say you want a secure border, and then come up with a “bill” to let 2 million more in per year.

The bill says,

• The Senate’s immigration bill gives the executive branch emergency authority to bar most migrants from seeking asylum if unauthorized immigration at the border reaches an average of 5,000 encounters a day during seven consecutive days.
• That does not mean that 5,000 people are allowed to illegally enter the U.S.
• Encounters track the number of times immigration officials stop people trying to enter the U.S., not the number of people who are released into the country.

Encounters is not permit. Tell me one thing, there the F**k did you come up with where it allows 5000 immigrants into the US every day?

 

[Vrenn]

Right.
And the punishment for my crime is a ticket and for theirs it is immediate deportation.

Or a reasonable Immigration Court where they can present their case. If they don't make it, it's deportation. If they do make it then it's visa and green card time.

We are making a special place for all of you once the Orange Cheeto leaves office and goes to prison. It's a Stan called Stupidistan. Let's see how YOU like to being deported.

 

[Vrenn]

If you cross our border illegally, you are a criminal.

If I run a stop sign and don't report it I am also a criminal.

 

[Orangecat]

If I run a stop sign and don't report it I am also a criminal.

Okay.

 

[The Duke]

I won't lie.

During that period I was still a Democrat dipshit.

But, to be fair, the GOP still sucked back then - and it took me a while to unburden myself from the Leftist brainwash that had been.

It's OK, Fren.

 

[The Duke]

If you cross our border illegally, you are a criminal.

If I run a stop sign and don't report it I am also a criminal.

Okay. One is a moving violation, and one is a federal offense.
Which one hurts Americans if nobody got hurt, hmm?!
Illegal immigrants hurt Americans threefold. That's a no-go.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The bill says,

• The Senate’s immigration bill gives the executive branch emergency authority to bar most migrants from seeking asylum if unauthorized immigration at the border reaches an average of 5,000 encounters a day during seven consecutive days.
• That does not mean that 5,000 people are allowed to illegally enter the U.S.
• Encounters track the number of times immigration officials stop people trying to enter the U.S., not the number of people who are released into the country.

Encounters is not permit. Tell me one thing, there the F**k did you come up with where it allows 5000 immigrants into the US every day?

• The Senate’s immigration bill gives the executive branch emergency authority to bar most migrants from seeking asylum if unauthorized immigration at the border reaches an average of 5,000 encounters a day during seven consecutive days.

The President didn't already have border authority? Why did Biden need new authority?
When did Biden realize his claim, "there is no border crisis", was wrong?

• Encounters track the number of times immigration officials stop people trying to enter the U.S., not the number of people who are released into the country.

How many of those encountered were sent back into Mexico?
How many were released into the country?
Since Jan 2021?

 

[Vrenn]

Okay. One is a moving violation, and one is a federal offense.
Which one hurts Americans if nobody got hurt, hmm?!
Illegal immigrants hurt Americans threefold. That's a no-go.

Using that logic, a natural born citizen is many times more likely to commit a violent crime. Does that mean that we need to deport all Natural Born Citizens? Do that enough times and you just might get the violent average per capita to equal out. So, we send the wagon for you. Oh, and that also means me.

 

[Contumacious]

Using that logic, a natural born citizen is many times more likely to commit a violent crime. Does that mean that we need to deport all Natural Born Citizens? Do that enough times and you just might get the violent average per capita to equal out. So, we send the wagon for you. Oh, and that also means me.

You are missing the point

Neither QueMala Chameleon nor Joe Buythem had the Constitutional or Statutory Authority to open the borders
Not only that but DNC activists were telling the aliens as they crossed the border to make sure they register to vote and to vote for BuyThem.

No Sir, they must ALL be interdicted , detained and deported,

 

[Vrenn]

You are missing the point

Neither QueMala Chameleon nor Joe Buythem had the Constitutional or Statutory Authority to open the borders
Not only that but DNC activists were telling the aliens as they crossed the border to make sure they register to vote and to vote for BuyThem.

No Sir, they must ALL be interdicted , detained and deported,

No, I made the point but you are too argumentative to admit it. There are degrees in the law where only the most arduous laws require jail or deportation. Meanwhile, (some may argue) some demands the capital punishment stage. I believe that jaywalking doesn't require the death penalty or years behind bars while dropping a cement block from an overpass does.

Most of the reason that the illegals are here is because we haven't the capacity to rule on their immigration status. Yes, Dorathy, it's the lack of courts to handle the load that is causing the problem. Now, if you get a decent amount of courts, judges and lawyers to handle things, about 15% would gain protection status while the other 85% would already be in custody and be ready for transport.

 

[Contumacious]

Most of the reason that the illegals are here is because we haven't the capacity to rule on their immigration status.

The Biden administration formally ended the Trump-era policy of returning asylum seekers to Mexico until their court dates in the United States, according to a memo issued by Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/01/politics/immigration-remain-in-mexico/index.html

 

[para bellum]

Mayor Adams has jumped on the bandwagon, lol.

Mayor Adams says undocumented New Yorkers aren’t owed due process, defying Constitution

“The Constitution is for Americans,” Adams said, contradicting amendments that grant due process to all persons regardless of immigration status.

gothamist.com

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, I made the point but you are too argumentative to admit it. There are degrees in the law where only the most arduous laws require jail or deportation. Meanwhile, (some may argue) some demands the capital punishment stage. I believe that jaywalking doesn't require the death penalty or years behind bars while dropping a cement block from an overpass does.

Most of the reason that the illegals are here is because we haven't the capacity to rule on their immigration status. Yes, Dorathy, it's the lack of courts to handle the load that is causing the problem. Now, if you get a decent amount of courts, judges and lawyers to handle things, about 15% would gain protection status while the other 85% would already be in custody and be ready for transport.

Most of the reason that the illegals are here is because we haven't the capacity to rule on their immigration status.

Most of the reason is Biden waved them in. Encouraged them. Funded them.

 

[busybee01]

The Dems realize that the voters are fed up with illegal aliens. They do not like the crime sprees and the lowering of American wages.

She is not breaking ranks. Democrats have said that violent criminals should be deported. Quit lying.

 

[Anathema]

She isn't going with the MAGAt deportation scheme. She wants to deport criminals and not law abiding illegals. There is a huge difference. This isn't political nor should the nightmares of the Orange Cheeto Gawd wannbe come into play here.

There is no such thing as a law-abiding illegal. It says so right in their title. They’re all criminals, foreigners and scum (yrs, I know that’s redundant). They’re should all be deported, post haste and without the need for legal proceedings.

 

[Vrenn]

There is no such thing as a law-abiding illegal. It says so right in their title. They’re all criminals, foreigners and scum (yrs, I know that’s redundant). They’re should all be deported, post haste and without the need for legal proceedings.

And you are a criminal because you fudged a light or jaywalked. I guess we need to create a special country to deport you to. I hear that if we fence off Oklahoma we can create a country called "StupidityStan".

 

[marvin martian]

law abiding illegals.

This phrase could only come from the low-IQ mind of a DemoKKKrat.

LOL

 

[Anathema]

And you are a criminal because you fudged a light or jaywalked. I guess we need to create a special country to deport you to. I hear that if we fence off Oklahoma we can create a country called "StupidityStan".

Yes, we are all criminals. None of us are innocent people. Not over the age of 3, and many before that.

The question comes down to what offenses our society chooses to enforce. I would prefer that we enforced a lot more things a lot more harshly. Most of society disagrees.