New York Governor Kathy Hochul just broke rank with fellow Democrats

Yes, we are all criminals. None of us are innocent people. Not over the age of 3, and many before that.

The question comes down to what offenses our society chooses to enforce. I would prefer that we enforced a lot more things a lot more harshly. Most of society disagrees.
Nothing wrong with that as long as it is for everyone. Can you imagine if you and I were to get a bunch of kooks and start attacking government buildings in Washington? Sunlight becomes a rare commodity.
 
She isn't going with the MAGAt deportation scheme. She wants to deport criminals and not law abiding illegals. There is a huge difference. This isn't political nor should the nightmares of the Orange Cheeto Gawd wannbe come into play here.
law abiding when they crossed into the country? laugh my fking ass off.
 
law abiding when they crossed into the country? laugh my fking ass off.

Most seek out border patrol which is the first step in declaring protection status. What's criminal is for them to be released and not contacted for the next 2 to 7 years when their case comes up. Meanwhile, they are subject to deportation although they tried to play the game. You want to get legal deportations, get the courts where they can do the court date in 30 to 60 days. Like in most embassies, only 15% will be granted assylum and the second the gavel falls, the ones that aren't granted assylum should be boxed up and sent to their country of origin. Do things right for a change.
 
Nothing wrong with that as long as it is for everyone. Can you imagine if you and I were to get a bunch of kooks and start attacking government buildings in Washington? Sunlight becomes a rare commodity.

Or looting and burning down dozens of cities after a felon ODs on fentanyl.
 
Nothing wrong with that as long as it is for everyone. Can you imagine if you and I were to get a bunch of kooks and start attacking government buildings in Washington? Sunlight becomes a rare commodity.
I definitely agree it needs to be for everyone, from the 3 year old illegal immigabt to the 80 year old, wealthy, Presidential Candidate

I also don’t believe in Pardons unless there is overwhelming evidence after the fact which proves innocence.
 
Or looting and burning down dozens of cities after a felon ODs on fentanyl.

You are just picking nits. The fix is to get each person in front of a immigration judge and determine if they are needing asylum. If the court rules that they don't get asylum, they are bagged and tagged right then and then immediately sent back to their countries of origin. No fuss no muss. And all that was in the most recent HR bill that your Orange Cheeto decided he didn't want it to be done until after he gets back into office.
 
You are just picking nits. The fix is to get each person in front of a immigration judge and determine if they are needing asylum. If the court rules that they don't get asylum, they are bagged and tagged right then and then immediately sent back to their countries of origin. No fuss no muss. And all that was in the most recent HR bill that your Orange Cheeto decided he didn't want it to be done until after he gets back into office.

I agree. 5 minutes is enough to veto 99% of fake asylum claims right at the border.
No need for distant court dates. And when word gets out, most of the flow stops.

And all that was in the most recent HR bill that your Orange Cheeto decided he didn't want it to be done until after he gets back into office.

HR bill? Tell me more!
 
I agree. 5 minutes is enough to veto 99% of fake asylum claims right at the border.
No need for distant court dates. And when word gets out, most of the flow stops.

And all that was in the most recent HR bill that your Orange Cheeto decided he didn't want it to be done until after he gets back into office.

HR bill? Tell me more!

You can stop playing stupid as of now. HR2 was passed by the House and sent to the Senate. It covered much of what was needed. No, not everyone saw it as for them but there was enough there to get the ball rolling for everyone. The Orange Cheeto Gawd wannabe threatened the Senate to kill it. Had the reps voted for it in the senate, it would have been enough to offset the negative dems.

The there is the S 2824 bill that was tabled for the same reasons. Had the two bills been incorporated into one bill, it would have been exactly what we need. Your Orange Cheeto Gawd wannabe threatened the Senate Majority Leader so it was tabled.

Any other type, this would have been labeled as Organized crime by tRump and his supporters. If it were anyone rather than tRump, 18 USC Ch. 96: RACKETEER INFLUENCED AND CORRUPT ORGANIZATIONS would have been applicable.
 
You can stop playing stupid as of now. HR2 was passed by the House and sent to the Senate. It covered much of what was needed. No, not everyone saw it as for them but there was enough there to get the ball rolling for everyone. The Orange Cheeto Gawd wannabe threatened the Senate to kill it. Had the reps voted for it in the senate, it would have been enough to offset the negative dems.

The there is the S 2824 bill that was tabled for the same reasons. Had the two bills been incorporated into one bill, it would have been exactly what we need. Your Orange Cheeto Gawd wannabe threatened the Senate Majority Leader so it was tabled.

Any other type, this would have been labeled as Organized crime by tRump and his supporters. If it were anyone rather than tRump, 18 USC Ch. 96: RACKETEER INFLUENCED AND CORRUPT ORGANIZATIONS would have been applicable.
The house bill set on Chucky desk. They did nothing with it.

The senate came up with one themselves and their was bipartisan support not to pass it
 
This Thread should be about Hochul.Does she need or deserve
to be honored with agreement or disagreement.
She needs to be shunned.Her actions as Governor were
flat out deplorable.She merits No voice whatever.
She is craving attention.Precisely what she does not
deserve.An Andrew Cuomo sandwich is what the state
should offer her.A little late for her to qualify for
attention or seriousness.
 
You can stop playing stupid as of now. HR2 was passed by the House and sent to the Senate. It covered much of what was needed. No, not everyone saw it as for them but there was enough there to get the ball rolling for everyone. The Orange Cheeto Gawd wannabe threatened the Senate to kill it. Had the reps voted for it in the senate, it would have been enough to offset the negative dems.

The there is the S 2824 bill that was tabled for the same reasons. Had the two bills been incorporated into one bill, it would have been exactly what we need. Your Orange Cheeto Gawd wannabe threatened the Senate Majority Leader so it was tabled.

Any other type, this would have been labeled as Organized crime by tRump and his supporters. If it were anyone rather than tRump, 18 USC Ch. 96: RACKETEER INFLUENCED AND CORRUPT ORGANIZATIONS would have been applicable.

HR2 was passed by the House and sent to the Senate. It covered much of what was needed. No, not everyone saw it as for them but there was enough there to get the ball rolling for everyone. The Orange Cheeto Gawd wannabe threatened the Senate to kill it.

Ummmmm...Schumer refused to put HR2 up for a vote.

Had the reps voted for it in the senate, it would have been enough to offset the negative dems.
The Dems had the majority in the Senate.

Your Orange Cheeto Gawd wannabe threatened the Senate Majority Leader so it was tabled.

Trump threatened Schumer? DURR
 
You are just picking nits. The fix is to get each person in front of a immigration judge and determine if they are needing asylum. If the court rules that they don't get asylum, they are bagged and tagged right then and then immediately sent back to their countries of origin. No fuss no muss. And all that was in the most recent HR bill that your Orange Cheeto decided he didn't want it to be done until after he gets back into office.
No, the fix is to ship ALL of their asses back to their own countries
 
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The house bill set on Chucky desk. They did nothing with it.

The senate came up with one themselves and their was bipartisan support not to pass it

The Reps had the majority. Enough of they voted against it to add to the small percentage of the Dems where it could not pass. The Majority Leader intentionally sought support of enough Reps to table the bill. It isn't dead but it's tabled. You want to bet against the Orange Cheeto Gawd wannabe to allow it to pass? One problem, it's going to have to go back to the house which the Reps don't have the support to pass it again.
 
The Reps had the majority. Enough of they voted against it to add to the small percentage of the Dems where it could not pass. The Majority Leader intentionally sought support of enough Reps to table the bill. It isn't dead but it's tabled. You want to bet against the Orange Cheeto Gawd wannabe to allow it to pass? One problem, it's going to have to go back to the house which the Reps don't have the support to pass it again.
Demofks had senate stupid fk, and Chuck sat on it. Stop making an ass out of yourself, cultist

 
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Demofks had senate stupid fk, and Chuck sat on it. Stop making an ass out of yourself, cultist



Okay, stupid. Yes, he sat on it. But because there was just enough Dems that would have voted against it like ALL of the Reps. Why present a bill that doesn't have a tinker damn chance of passing. Only the Reps would do something that stupid if they were in charge.
 
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Okay, stupid. Yes, he sat on it. But because there was just enough Dems that would have voted against it like ALL of the Reps. Why present a bill that doesn't have a tinker damn chance of passing. Only the Reps would do something that stupid if they were in charge.

The Democrats ignored the House bill.
The Republicans couldn't get it on the Senate floor.
Do a little more research, because you sound like an idiot.
 
The Democrats ignored the House bill.
The Republicans couldn't get it on the Senate floor.
Do a little more research, because you sound like an idiot.

There were enough Dems to get it to the floor with Republican support. But all of a sudden, all Republican Support was removed. Got that new country just for your Deportation, Stupidistan is being built right now for when you find out your Orange Cheeto Gawd Wannabe led you astray.
 
There were enough Dems to get it to the floor with Republican support. But all of a sudden, all Republican Support was removed. Got that new country just for your Deportation, Stupidistan is being built right now for when you find out your Orange Cheeto Gawd Wannabe led you astray.

There was never any Dem support to get the House bill onto the Senate floor.

Do some research. You're whining about the Senate bill that Trump shot down.

Moron.
 
There was never any Dem support to get the House bill onto the Senate floor.

Do some research. You're whining about the Senate bill that Trump shot down.

Moron.

I can see why I am the only one that can see you. Well, MAGAt, that changes. Say goodnight, Gracie.
 
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