New Trump Ad Slams Biden: 'Surrender In Chief'

[ClaireH]

And Biden was over the withdrawal and screwed the pooch.

Indeed. Reading the Doha agreement had nothing to do with the exit strategy. There were four specific points to the agreement and included the May timeframe for when to pull out US troops. Another part of the agreement references a 9 month additional timeframe to get all additional outliers out. This isn’t being mentioned by news sources it seems.

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf

Biden’s claim that he was boxed in by Trump’s Doha agreement is not supported.

Was Biden handcuffed by Trump’s Taliban deal in Doha?

WASHINGTON (AP) — As President Donald Trump’s administration signed a peace deal with the Taliban in February 2020, he optimistically proclaimed that “we think we’ll be successful in the end.” His …

www.pahomepage.com

 

[FA_Q2]

well ^^^that ^^^ was hard to follow.

but i did manage to see this:

you: He still did it on his own, just his administration ...

his administration obviously didn't know wtf they were doing, did they?

they agreed to the release of 5000 taliban JUST to get them to the table. his secretary of defense mark esper stated quite clearly that donny didn't care what happened as long as that 'deal' was followed thru with no regard for our troops.

... and, as we all know, anything that a president does another one can simply undo or even outright ignore.

um ... no; WE all don't know that - 'cause that is the exception, NOT the rule, when a signed contract is in the mix. donny deliberately set the withdrawal date a mere 5 months after his1st term would be over ... setting it up to either:

A) 'allow' the taliban to lead their own country, without the afghan gov'ment's participation if he won a 2nd term -

why do you think he had mullah baradar released from prison in 2018?

OR

B) leave a great big giant orange turd for the next prez to deal with, knowing full well the chaos it would bring either by trying to meet that may deadline, or staying past it.

& noooooooooo ..... only an executive order can be ignored from a previous president, by the current president.

...

More blame Trump for things Biden has done.

Trump was a fantastic president. Everything he screwed up was because Obama. <- that is exactly what you sound like.

 

[FA_Q2]

The Taliban guarantee not to harm Americans, none killed on Biden watch as well, the Taliban providing security for our exit....the Taliban being in charge was a result of agreement with them.

Americans have not only been harmed, they have been killed. None killed on Biden's watch, wow.

I did not see anything about them providing security in the agreement either.

 

[FA_Q2]

If Trump had been in charge of this evacuation, you think he would have gotten 113,500 people out? Hell no, he doesn't like "illegal immigrants", remember?

Yea, that is the ticket. Biden did this exit just as well as the last guy would have, the guy you think is the worst president ever.

So, is Biden just on par with how bad Trump was or is he the new worst?

 

[FA_Q2]

Explain how Trump would have gotten all those weapons out, smart guy.

You know, the same way we got them there....

 

[FA_Q2]

Newsflash… those planes are prop jobs

Who is threatened by them?

These guys are pretty threatened by prop jobs.

 

[easyt65]

LOL!!!!! donny made a deal with the taliban ... released 5000 of them from prison just to be able to talk. then 5 days b4 leaving office he had the founder of the taliban released & now he's gonna be the afghan leader because the afghan prez got the cash to desert his own country.

it was already set up b4 biden took over.

Trump did not pull out troops before citizens.

Trump threatened to strike if they fid shot like this.
- Biden let them do it.

Trump didn't give up Bagram.

500 terrorists? By surrendering Bagram Biden released approx 5,500 of THE deadliest Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Taliban terrorists in the world and let them target Kabul.

Trump didn't let terrorists order him around.

Trump isn't leaving Americans behind.

 

[Crepitus]

Trump PAC hits Biden on Afghanistan in new digital ad

Former President Donald Trump is launching a new campaign-style advertisement on digital platforms attacking President Joe Biden, criticizing his embattled successor's handling of the U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan.

news.yahoo.com

Right on target with this ad.

Was dOnald and mIke who negotiated our unconditional surrender to the Taliban, not Joe.

 

[Mustang]

Trump PAC hits Biden on Afghanistan in new digital ad

Former President Donald Trump is launching a new campaign-style advertisement on digital platforms attacking President Joe Biden, criticizing his embattled successor's handling of the U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan.

news.yahoo.com

Right on target with this ad.

Which administration was it again who negotiated the US withdrawal from Afghanistan without any participation from the Afghan Gov't?

 

[Crepitus]

These guys are pretty threatened by prop jobs.

Most of them are modified 2 seater cessnas with a couple of hard points on the wings.

 

[easyt65]

B
Biden didn't bother to Identify the Afghanis he was loading up & taking out before Americans, so now we have members of the top terrorist list being flown to the US courtesy of Joe.

 

[Billy000]

Trump PAC hits Biden on Afghanistan in new digital ad

Former President Donald Trump is launching a new campaign-style advertisement on digital platforms attacking President Joe Biden, criticizing his embattled successor's handling of the U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan.

news.yahoo.com

Right on target with this ad.

Why do you people still listen to this moron? Are you unable to have political opinions of your own?

 

[ClaireH]

Was dOnald and mIke who negotiated our unconditional surrender to the Taliban, not Joe.

That is not true Mr. Crep-there were several conditions to the Doha agreement. Here, since you haven’t read it I’ve done your legwork:

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf

 

[Crepitus]

That is not true Mr. Crep-there were several conditions to the Doha agreement. Here, since you haven’t read it I’ve done your legwork:

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf

I've read it. In fact I've posted it several times as proof of the opposite of your claims.

dOnald negotiated the unconditional surrender of Afghanistan to the Taliban.

Deal with it.

 

[FA_Q2]

Most of them are modified 2 seater cessnas with a couple of hard points on the wings.

And 4 of them are C-130's

The very aircraft in that video.

 

[ClaireH]

I've read it. In fact I've posted it several times as proof of the opposite of your claims.

dOnald negotiated the unconditional surrender of Afghanistan to the Taliban.

Deal with it.

Repeating a lie does not make it true Mr. Crep.

Doha agreement: “A comprehensive peace agreement is made of four parts:
1. Guarantees and enforcement mechanisms that will prevent the use of the soil of Afghanistan by any group or individual against the security of the United States and its allies.
2. Guarantees, enforcement mechanisms, and announcement of a timeline for the withdrawal of all foreign forces from Afghanistan.
3. After the announcement of guarantees for a complete withdrawal of foreign forces and timeline in the presence of international witnesses, and guarantees and the announcement in the presence of international witnesses that Afghan soil will not be used against the security of the United States and its allies, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban will start intra-Afghan negotiations with Afghan sides on March 10, 2020, which corresponds to Rajab 15, 1441 on the Hijri Lunar calendar and Hoot 20, 1398 on the Hijri Solar calendar.
4. A permanent and comprehensive ceasefire will be an item on the agenda of the intra-Afghan dialogue and negotiations. The participants of intra-Afghan negotiations will discuss the date and modalities of a permanent and comprehensive ceasefire, including joint implementation mechanisms, which will be announced along with the completion and agreement over the future political roadmap of Afghanistan.
The four parts above are interrelated and each will be implemented in accordance with its own agreed timeline and agreed terms. Agreement on the first two parts paves the way for the last two parts.
Following is the text of the agreement for the implementation of parts one and two of the above. Both sides agree that these two parts are interconnected. The obligations of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban in this agreement apply in areas under their control until the formation of the new post-settlement Afghan Islamic government as determined by the intra-Afghan dialogue and negotiations.”

Each of the above four categories are further detailed in the terms, but too long to post here.

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf

I pointed out that your use of “unconditional surrender” was not factual, and you’ve used it again a second time as a deliberate falsehood. You do not promote your political views well using false statements that are easily checked.

 

[Crepitus]

And 4 of them are C-130's

The very aircraft in that video.

No. The aircraft in the video is an AC-130 Spectre Aka "spooky low-slow", aka "angel of death. Not a cargo plane.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

FACT A: Nearly two weeks ago the Afghan army collapsed without firing a shot. The Taliban captured Kandahar and Kabul while acquiring billions of dollars of American military equipment. The current chaos surrounding the Kabul airport ensued.

FACT B: According to most media sources, our President is to blame.

To blame our President, the media leaves out a lot crucial information. Instead of reminding viewers that the current chaos was a consequence of the Afghan army's sudden surrender, they concentrate on the current chaos and present sad stories about the Afghan people who are still living in the Middle ages.

From post 124, Republicans wanted nothing to do with reality. That's pretty much standard for them.

 

[playtime]

More blame Trump for things Biden has done.

donny surrendered. no matter how you try to slice it & dice it, that fact will never change.

Trump was a fantastic president.

sure. is that why he wasn't elected a 2nd time? & lost 7,000,000+ more votes than biden; including many (R)s?

Everything he screwed up was because Obama. <- that is exactly what you sound like.

not really, but you go with that.

 

[gtopa1]