New rules of engagement for stone throwers from the IDF. Expect quite a few deaths

[RoccoR]

Coyote, et al,

It is important to note that the Israeli Settlers have not been as law abiding and regulation compliant as they often portray themselves to be. In fact, not unlike some of the Muslim Extremist I've seen in the UK and Europe, some Jewish Settlers are just as belligerent.

They must be reigned-in more and the Israeli Government must make it very clear that, not withstanding Area "C" Jurisdiction granted by Oslo II, the settlements are still a de jour State of Palestine (not Israel).

The Belligerant Jewish "Settlers" are stoning Palestinian civilians. Are you saying the law to shoot stoners on sight applies only to Palestinians?

(COMMENT)

As you can see from my Previous Posting #240, the Israeli Settlers have committed extremist action across the board. I think that as time goes on, the Israeli National Police are going to have to apply more resources to contain Settler Violence.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Phoenall]

WATCH: Israeli police let stone-throwing settlers walk away


Israeli soldiers don’t arrest settlers. We know that. But what about Israeli police?

A couple of Jewish Israeli settlers were driving in the Israeli-controlled section of Hebron last week — where Palestinians live but only Israelis can drive — when some Palestinian youths threw stones at them, according to human rights organization B’Tselem.

The two settlers got out of their car, presumably to try and catch the stone throwers. But when they couldn’t catch them, they went after the easiest target they could find: the pair smashed a local market’s egg delivery and threw stones at parked Palestinian-owned cars, smashing their windshields, as can be seen in video provided by B’Tselem.

They were still throwing stones when Israeli police arrived. The police, army and settlement security officer, however, just let the two settlers walk to their car and drive off. The following is video shot by B’Tselem volunteers.
WATCH: Israeli police let stone-throwing settlers walk away | +972 Magazine

So they did not throw stones at any Palestinians, but the Palestinians threw stones at them. So the Palestinians should have been shot under the new rules.

Thanks for making this very clear that you want the police to arrest Jews who have stones thrown at them, but don't want the Palestinians arresting for throwing stones ................

 

[Phoenall]

And would not be needed if the ones getting injured were not resorting to violence. There should be a shoot to kill policy with CCTV footage available showing those shot were attempting to maim of kill.

CCTV footage of the teenager executed by israeli police at check point is er "not available" but anyone who doubts the izzies word she had a knife are anti-semen nazi's, right?

No it is very simple while the case is being investigated no evidence that could convict can be given to the press, once it is the case collapses as the defendant is not going to get a fair trial. But you don't see it that way only having islamonazi justice where you are guilty even if you can prove you did not do anything

 

[rylah]

Lying as always:

Billo_Really's Nuclear mass murders

What's the lie? You're the one who says I hate Jews.

You're doing everything you can to make this about me, because you don't have the balls to talk about Israeli atrocities.

Well not every convict confirms the crimes even after proven guilty.

When you wish to annihilate whole states or peoples
we don't need to hear you say "I hate"...as much as we don't need to hear Hamas say "we use palestinians as shields and fire from schools"...

all we need is to look at the evidence.

You provided us with numerous evidence.
BTW there was one today when you would deny the Hamas crimes against the Israelis and the palestinians.

Makes you a racist (anti-semite) genocidal (nuke Israel)
Jihad ('Go Hamas') supporter.

Edit: for you it's all about you lovely self, you deny facts and think all that matters is what you believe contrary to all evidence. I engaged you on the level you've set up beforehand.

 

[Billo_Really]

Well not every convict confirms the crimes even after proven guilty.

You haven't proven shit!

All you do, is make these bullshit accusations. You can't even explain why you make them?

When you wish to annihilate whole states or peoples

That has nothing to do with Judaism.

 

[rylah]

Well not every convict confirms the crimes even after proven guilty.

You haven't proven shit!

All you do, is make these bullshit accusations. You can't even explain why you make them?

When you wish to annihilate whole states or peoples

That has nothing to do with Judaism.

Focus- you call for the nuclear annihilation of palestinians and Israelis and support the Jihad terrorists.

Makes you an anti-semitic, low-life genocidal freak.

And when dealing with the Jews and their homeland- it's always about Judaism (take it directly form an Israeli Jew).

But again you already know all this.

 

[Billo_Really]

Focus- you call for the nuclear annihilation of palestinians and Israelis and support the Jihad terrorists.

Makes you an anti-semitic, low-life genocidal freak.

And when dealing with the Jews and their homeland- it's always about Judaism (take it directly form an Israeli Jew).

But again you already know all this.

Still more proof you're a sick society with no direct connection to planet earth.

 

[Phoenall]

Well not every convict confirms the crimes even after proven guilty.

You haven't proven shit!

All you do, is make these bullshit accusations. You can't even explain why you make them?

When you wish to annihilate whole states or peoples

That has nothing to do with Judaism.

Then support them with links from the Palestinians themselves saying that you are wrong. Of course you deny the links because to do otherwise would mean that you have been made a fool of again

Is this your new mantra to cover for all the Jew hatred you spout. Judaism is the Jews religion so it has everything to do with it.

 

[Phoenall]

Focus- you call for the nuclear annihilation of palestinians and Israelis and support the Jihad terrorists.

Makes you an anti-semitic, low-life genocidal freak.

And when dealing with the Jews and their homeland- it's always about Judaism (take it directly form an Israeli Jew).

But again you already know all this.

Still more proof you're a sick society with no direct connection to planet earth.

Do explain how you calling for a nuclear attack on Israel that would wipe out most of the M.E proves that it is you that is part of the sick society. You don't even know where Palestine is on a map

 

[Challenger]

Let's see...

36 executions since 2012... I couldn't find a single execution for playing dance music!

117 executions since 2012 in the USA... Again, I couldn't find a single execution for playing dance music!

Who are the barbarians exactly?

What kind of comparison were you hoping to make with your phoney list?

You neglected to account for population density and per capita assessments. The population of Pal'istanians is about 4.4 million. The population of the US is about 320 million.

I'm not aware that the US government has heavily armed goon squads performing summary executions on city streets.

So yeah, who are the barbarians?

"I'm not aware that the US government has heavily armed goon squads performing summary executions on city streets." --Hollow Hollie

What is funny is you don't even realize that everything those cops were armed with are non-lethal or less lethal weapons. Also did you spot the woman in the group? The big nasty looking thing you used for your closeup is called ARWEN. A wonderful anti riot weapon that shoots tear gas and urethane baton rounds.

Below is a list of its ammunition. Challenger just loves himself a good picture but like most ignorant twerps he doesn't understand what he is seeing and is too lazy to investigate beyond what his masters tell him.

KO1 - Standard Impact Baton
KO2 - CS Smoke
KO3 - Irritant Impact Baton
KO4 - White & Colored Screening Smoke
BP5 - Irritant, Barricade Penetrating
KO6 - Irritant, Muzzle Blast
KO7 - Multi-Ball Area Impact
KO8 - Soft Tip Impact Baton
KO9 - Sub-caliber Training/Marking


ARWEN 37 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know the Arwen 37, thank you, enough to know the cop in the picture isn't carrying one, although probably a similar weapon manufactured by someon else and I know what it can do. The U.S. National Institute of Justice revealed in a 2004 study, out of 373 instances in which officers fired 969 impact rounds at individuals, eight died. Two others were killed when officers meant to fire impact rounds but instead used other munitions, and 26 more died when nonlethal options failed to subdue them and officers turned to lethal rounds.

Another 782 of the impact rounds caused injuries of varying severity, about 10.8% of which were serious lacerations, broken bones or penetration wounds.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/206089.pdf

You have to be properly trained to use these type of weapons; all non- or less-lethal weapons can kill if mis-used.

No, you didn't know it was ARWEN and yes the weapon pictured is indeed ARWEN (showing how little you truly know about them) and yes, people die when LESS LETHAL weapons are used improperly. Please note the terminology.

They ain't non lethal, they be less lethal. Means they shouldn't kill you if they're used properly, but used wrong and they can indeed kill you.

Really. The cop in the picture is carrying a Sage Systems SL-6 Multi Role Projectile Launcher, NOT the ARWEN 37 issued to the British Army, the one I knew.

Furthermore, I chose two random images of "heavily armed goon squads"; I could have chosen several armed with HK MP5's or assorted assault rifles, shot guns or sniper rifles, but I thought I'd made my point, at least to most people of average or better intelligence. My mistake.

 

[RoccoR]

Challenger, WESTWALL, HOLLIE, HUMANITY, et al,

Yes, well --- we've gotten off-track here.

BTW: The Weapon in the Challenger's so-called "Goon Squad" picture, is actually a Sage SL-6. The British Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield started making a weapon called the ARWEN 37 in the late-1970's; with the current model being the 1981 version (pre-dating the Sage SL-6 design by more than 20 years). The ammunition for both is the same and interchangeable. The ARWEN 37 also has a rotary-drum (5-round rotating cylinder) or can be breach loaded in single shot mode; although the prototypes included the semi-automatic and pump-action version were field tested. The Sage SL-6 (original model 2003) comes in optional 6 or 8 round options. The ARWEN 37 is by far, the more reliable and sturdy weapon; superior in construction and design to that of the Sage SL-6.
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Really. The cop in the picture is carrying a Sage Systems SL-6 Multi Role Projectile Launcher, NOT the ARWEN 37 issued to the British Army, the one I knew.

Furthermore, I chose two random images of "heavily armed goon squads"; I could have chosen several armed with HK MP5's or assorted assault rifles, shot guns or sniper rifles, but I thought I'd made my point, at least to most people of average or better intelligence. My mistake.[/QUOTE]
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Enfield WRWEN 37 (Basic)
Pictured without Drum or Magazine​

(COMMENT)

I take exception to addressing a SWAT Team as a "heavily armed goon squads." But I understand where you're coming from given the source.
The picture below come from the The police are your enemy Article that was posted on February 17, 2013 on the "On the Mark
about our enemy the state."

Mark Stoval, the principle blogger on "On the Mark" describes himself as a "Rothbardian Anarcho-Capitalist (or market anarchist) for 40 years." As you know, a "market anarchist" is not quite as bad as it sounds, as it describes an advocate an economic system based on voluntary market interactions without the involvement of the state. Most of Mark Stoval's blog are somewhat political and critical of our government; relative to his libertarian views. I am not sure that Mark Stoval's example of calling the SWAT Teams --- "militarized police goons" --- is the one that you should follow. SWAT Teams (often referred to as "D" Platoon following the original LAPD model) their evolutionary process in the "late 1960s as a result of several sniping incidents against civilians and police officers around the country." There is virtually nothing, man-made that is not in need of improvement, and that would include the application of SWAT concepts and Mark Stoval's Blog.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Challenger]

Challenger, WESTWALL, HOLLIE, HUMANITY, et al,

Yes, well --- we've gotten off-track here.

BTW: The Weapon in the Challenger's so-called "Goon Squad" picture, is actually a Sage SL-6. The British Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield started making a weapon called the ARWEN 37 in the late-1970's; with the current model being the 1981 version (pre-dating the Sage SL-6 design by more than 20 years). The ammunition for both is the same and interchangeable. The ARWEN 37 also has a rotary-drum (5-round rotating cylinder) or can be breach loaded in single shot mode; although the prototypes included the semi-automatic and pump-action version were field tested. The Sage SL-6 (original model 2003) comes in optional 6 or 8 round options. The ARWEN 37 is by far, the more reliable and sturdy weapon; superior in construction and design to that of the Sage SL-6.
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Really. The cop in the picture is carrying a Sage Systems SL-6 Multi Role Projectile Launcher, NOT the ARWEN 37 issued to the British Army, the one I knew.

Furthermore, I chose two random images of "heavily armed goon squads"; I could have chosen several armed with HK MP5's or assorted assault rifles, shot guns or sniper rifles, but I thought I'd made my point, at least to most people of average or better intelligence. My mistake.

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View attachment 51180
Enfield WRWEN 37 (Basic)
Pictured without Drum or Magazine​

(COMMENT)

I take exception to addressing a SWAT Team as a "heavily armed goon squads." But I understand where you're coming from given the source.
The picture below come from the The police are your enemy Article that was posted on February 17, 2013 on the "On the Mark
about our enemy the state."

Mark Stoval, the principle blogger on "On the Mark" describes himself as a "Rothbardian Anarcho-Capitalist (or market anarchist) for 40 years." As you know, a "market anarchist" is not quite as bad as it sounds, as it describes an advocate an economic system based on voluntary market interactions without the involvement of the state. Most of Mark Stoval's blog are somewhat political and critical of our government; relative to his libertarian views. I am not sure that Mark Stoval's example of calling the SWAT Teams --- "militarized police goons" --- is the one that you should follow. SWAT Teams (often referred to as "D" Platoon following the original LAPD model) their evolutionary process in the "late 1960s as a result of several sniping incidents against civilians and police officers around the country." There is virtually nothing, man-made that is not in need of improvement, and that would include the application of SWAT concepts and Mark Stoval's Blog.

Most Respectfully,
R[/QUOTE]

Whatever. As I said it was a random pick from Google Images. although your post begs the question what's the difference between SWAT teams and "Urban Shield" teams?

 

[Phoenall]

Challenger, WESTWALL, HOLLIE, HUMANITY, et al,

Yes, well --- we've gotten off-track here.

BTW: The Weapon in the Challenger's so-called "Goon Squad" picture, is actually a Sage SL-6. The British Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield started making a weapon called the ARWEN 37 in the late-1970's; with the current model being the 1981 version (pre-dating the Sage SL-6 design by more than 20 years). The ammunition for both is the same and interchangeable. The ARWEN 37 also has a rotary-drum (5-round rotating cylinder) or can be breach loaded in single shot mode; although the prototypes included the semi-automatic and pump-action version were field tested. The Sage SL-6 (original model 2003) comes in optional 6 or 8 round options. The ARWEN 37 is by far, the more reliable and sturdy weapon; superior in construction and design to that of the Sage SL-6.
​

Really. The cop in the picture is carrying a Sage Systems SL-6 Multi Role Projectile Launcher, NOT the ARWEN 37 issued to the British Army, the one I knew.

Furthermore, I chose two random images of "heavily armed goon squads"; I could have chosen several armed with HK MP5's or assorted assault rifles, shot guns or sniper rifles, but I thought I'd made my point, at least to most people of average or better intelligence. My mistake.

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View attachment 51180
Enfield WRWEN 37 (Basic)
Pictured without Drum or Magazine​

(COMMENT)

I take exception to addressing a SWAT Team as a "heavily armed goon squads." But I understand where you're coming from given the source.
The picture below come from the The police are your enemy Article that was posted on February 17, 2013 on the "On the Mark
about our enemy the state."

Mark Stoval, the principle blogger on "On the Mark" describes himself as a "Rothbardian Anarcho-Capitalist (or market anarchist) for 40 years." As you know, a "market anarchist" is not quite as bad as it sounds, as it describes an advocate an economic system based on voluntary market interactions without the involvement of the state. Most of Mark Stoval's blog are somewhat political and critical of our government; relative to his libertarian views. I am not sure that Mark Stoval's example of calling the SWAT Teams --- "militarized police goons" --- is the one that you should follow. SWAT Teams (often referred to as "D" Platoon following the original LAPD model) their evolutionary process in the "late 1960s as a result of several sniping incidents against civilians and police officers around the country." There is virtually nothing, man-made that is not in need of improvement, and that would include the application of SWAT concepts and Mark Stoval's Blog.

Most Respectfully,
R

Whatever. As I said it was a random pick from Google Images. although your post begs the question what's the difference between SWAT teams and "Urban Shield" teams?

[/QUOTE]






SWAT stands for special weapons anti terrorist and are used when extreme fire power is needed in Urban situations. In the UK we rely on SAS teams to do the same job. They are extreme and violent which is needed to get the job done, and they will use lethal force if needed. As in taking down IRA terrorists in Gibraltar, or infiltrating Iraqi camps

 

[docmauser1]

Wonder if it will apply to Israeli settler stone throwers. They have yet to shoot one.

Throwing rocks is an inherent part of the palistanian settler occupation, not so much so with jews, of course. The former hurl rocks at cats, dogs, folks, buses, trains, etc..

As do the latter: Settlers throw stones at U.S. consulate convoy in West Bank - Diplomacy and Defense

What was that pathetic convoy doing there in the first place? They could've picked another venue for their palistan-arse kissing excercise, of course, dumbass State provocateurs.

No one shoots them for it however. Maybe that will change now. Or not.

Jewish self-defence and palistanian settler aggression ain't the same thang, of course.

 

[docmauser1]

When Jews Throw Stones, Will Israeli Police Open Fire?
When Jews throw stones, will Israeli police open fire? - Routine Emergencies
Recent examples of Israelis using stones as weapons against Palestinians are numerous, especially, but not exclusively in Jerusalem and the West Bank. Residents of East Jerusalem have thrown stones at the neighboring Palestinian refugee camp, Shuafat. Just last January, settlers threw stones at an American convoy containing diplomats who came to examine complaints that settlers destroyed Palestinian-owned olive groves. And Palestinian complaints of stone-throwing and firebombing as harassment methods happens again and again.

Old newz. Same palistanian/leftist crap, different day. Palistanians dish shitt out and then ***** about getting shitt in return, of course. Funny though, did our honorable coyote actually subscribe to read that limo-liberal drivel?!

Thanks for having the integrity to confirm the double standard [/QUOTE]It's a single standard being applied, of course, and palistanians don't like it. Doooh.

 

[Coyote]

It's a single standard being applied, of course, and palistanians don't like it. Doooh.

Nope. It's two different standards applied to residents of the same territory for the same crime where supposedly the same law is supposed to govern them all. What you call "liberal-limo", civilized people call equal treatment under the law.

 

[docmauser1]

Still more proof you're a sick society with no direct connection to planet earth.

Our honorable billo_really represents a sick society on an ongoing disconnect from the planet earth, of course.

 

[Coyote]

Wonder if it will apply to Israeli settler stone throwers. They have yet to shoot one.

Throwing rocks is an inherent part of the palistanian settler occupation, not so much so with jews, of course. The former hurl rocks at cats, dogs, folks, buses, trains, etc..

As do the latter: Settlers throw stones at U.S. consulate convoy in West Bank - Diplomacy and Defense

What was that pathetic convoy doing there in the first place? They could've picked another venue for their palistan-arse kissing excercise, of course, dumbass State provocateurs.

Well...that's a new one. Kind of justifies the question often asked of the Jewish settlers...."what are they doing there in the first place"? You seem to think that justifies stone throwing and violence...maybe it does Is that what you are saying?

No one shoots them for it however. Maybe that will change now. Or not.

Jewish self-defence and palistanian settler aggression ain't the same thang, of course.

[/QUOTE]

Stoning civilians and kids who are not doing anything wrong is not self defense.

 

[Hollie]

It's a single standard being applied, of course, and palistanians don't like it. Doooh.

Nope. It's two different standards applied to residents of the same territory for the same crime where supposedly the same law is supposed to govern them all. What you call "liberal-limo", civilized people call equal treatment under the law.

You just defined the Islamic world as uncivilized.

Maybe edit your post before too many take notice.

 

[Coyote]

It's a single standard being applied, of course, and palistanians don't like it. Doooh.

Nope. It's two different standards applied to residents of the same territory for the same crime where supposedly the same law is supposed to govern them all. What you call "liberal-limo", civilized people call equal treatment under the law.

You just defined the Islamic world as uncivilized.

Maybe edit your post before too many take notice.

I suggest you knock off the trolling before anyone else takes notice, and discuss the topic.