New record low max Arctic ice extent, second year in a row

[Crick]

For the Media | The Arctic sets yet another record low maximum extent | National Snow and Ice Data Center

Arctic sea ice was at a record low maximum extent for the second straight year, according to scientists at the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) and NASA.

“I’ve never seen such a warm, crazy winter in the Arctic,” said NSIDC director Mark Serreze. “The heat was relentless.” Air temperatures over the Arctic Ocean for the months of December, January and February were 2 to 6 degrees Celsius (4 to 11 degrees Fahrenheit) above average in nearly every region.
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But that's all lies, isn't it. These NSIDC "scientists" consulted Conspiracy HQ in the secret basements at East Anglia and received their marching orders as to what temperatures to report and what clever CG-faked satellite photos to publish. There's no chance of this project going astray. Anyone considering revealing the hoax disappears along with their extended families, into the white slave trade of darkest Africa. Yeah. That's what's happening.

 

[elektra]

NASA reports that Sea Ice is low? Crick you said NASA only provides Data?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Funny;

The 15% sea ice coverage number is lower while the multiyear (layered ice) has grown by 1.2% over the last two years.. Now why would we put stock in the very fluctuating single year ice and ignore the multi year ice which has been growing now for 7 years?

Oh the drama from the left.... were in no danger of it melting away as it is STACKING UP and growing in depth..

The left ignoring the reality in an effort to make you give up your rights with their hype and deceptions..

 

[Crick]

NASA reports that Sea Ice is low? Crick you said NASA only provides Data?

Wow...
The National Snow and Ice Data Center, or NSIDC, is a United States information and referral center in support of polar and cryospheric research. NSIDC archives and distributes digital and analog snow and ice data and also maintains information about snow cover, avalanches, glaciers, ice sheets, freshwater ice, sea ice, ground ice, permafrost, atmospheric ice, paleoglaciology, and ice cores.

NSIDC is part of the University of Colorado Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES), and is affiliated with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) National Geophysical Data Center through a cooperative agreement. NSIDC serves as one of eightDistributed Active Archive Centers funded by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration to archive and distribute data from NASA's past and current satellites and field measurement programs. NSIDC also supports the National Science Foundation through the Advanced Cooperative Arctic Data and Information Service (ACADIS), the Exchange For Local Observations and Knowledge of the Arctic (ELOKA) and the Antarctic Glaciological Data Center. NSIDC is also a member of the ICSU World Data System. Mark Serreze is the director of NSIDC.

Aside from using images from NASA's satellites, where the fuck do you get the idea that NSIDC is NASA? As stated here, they are part of NOAA, as anyone familiar with the actual function of these various agencies might guess.

That last wee peak coincides with record lowest max extent. You did have increasing volume for a bit and increasing multi-year ice. But that looks to have ended. The long term trend is obvious and anyone choosing to toss it is a fool.

Speaking of fools, do you still claim to have a degree in atmospheric physics? Because, even in a listing of university programs supported by the National Weather Association, I do not find degrees at any level of Atmospheric Physics. I do find numerous programs of Atmospheric Science even at the BS level. Not physics. Do you know what the term "self-aggrandizement" means?

 

[jc456]

Funny;

The 15% sea ice coverage number is lower while the multiyear (layered ice) has grown by 1.2% over the last two years.. Now why would we put stock in the very fluctuating single year ice and ignore the multi year ice which has been growing now for 7 years?

Oh the drama from the left.... were in no danger of it melting away as it is STACKING UP and growing in depth..

The left ignoring the reality in an effort to make you give up your rights with their hype and deceptions..

it's funny how everything is extreme for them. I bet when they hit the flusher, they hold on for their lives cause they don't wish to be sucked down into the bowl.

These continued rants about ice extent, how many years has it been now? all lines are within a margin of error instead of extreme this extreme that. hold on, I hope they don't let the flush take them away.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"December, January and February were 2 to 6 degrees Celsius (4 to 11 degrees Fahrenheit) above average in nearly every region...."

" Average January temperatures range from about −40 to 0 °C (−40 to +32 °F), and winter temperatures can drop below −50 °C (−58 °F) over large parts of the Arctic...."

Climate of the Arctic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, 4 degrees warmer than -40 is still pretty fucking cold, no?

 

[jc456]

"December, January and February were 2 to 6 degrees Celsius (4 to 11 degrees Fahrenheit) above average in nearly every region...."

" Average January temperatures range from about −40 to 0 °C (−40 to +32 °F), and winter temperatures can drop below −50 °C (−58 °F) over large parts of the Arctic...."

Climate of the Arctic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, 4 degrees warmer than -40 is still pretty fucking cold, no?

didn't you know you could go swimming in -36 degree weather. Ice melts at -38 maybe, seems stupid, but look at the source. BTW, iit is statistically impossible to have everyday be above normal. so, figure that half were above and half under. And then say, so what.

 

[depotoo]

Daily AMSR2 sea ice maps

Hmmm

 

[Crick]

"December, January and February were 2 to 6 degrees Celsius (4 to 11 degrees Fahrenheit) above average in nearly every region...."

" Average January temperatures range from about −40 to 0 °C (−40 to +32 °F), and winter temperatures can drop below −50 °C (−58 °F) over large parts of the Arctic...."

Climate of the Arctic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, 4 degrees warmer than -40 is still pretty fucking cold, no?

So it doesn't matter? Argument from Incredulity?

 

[depotoo]

And don't you just love the beginning year used on even this one? What was it before 1972? And 2010?

 

[Crick]

They typically use the most recent 3 decade period. 1972 is the beginning of satellite data. Did that confuse you? And what issue were you addressing? Did you think the selection of baseline was the reason for the record value? If so, sorry, no.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"December, January and February were 2 to 6 degrees Celsius (4 to 11 degrees Fahrenheit) above average in nearly every region...."

" Average January temperatures range from about −40 to 0 °C (−40 to +32 °F), and winter temperatures can drop below −50 °C (−58 °F) over large parts of the Arctic...."

Climate of the Arctic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, 4 degrees warmer than -40 is still pretty fucking cold, no?

So it doesn't matter? Argument from Incredulity?

No, I can spot BS several miles away.

Reporting "Above average temperatures in every region" sounds really warm, until you realize the average is -20F

 

[saveliberty]

Hold up on buying the snow cone maker, got ya....

 

[Crick]

"December, January and February were 2 to 6 degrees Celsius (4 to 11 degrees Fahrenheit) above average in nearly every region...."

" Average January temperatures range from about −40 to 0 °C (−40 to +32 °F), and winter temperatures can drop below −50 °C (−58 °F) over large parts of the Arctic...."

Climate of the Arctic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, 4 degrees warmer than -40 is still pretty fucking cold, no?

So it doesn't matter? Argument from Incredulity?

No, I can spot BS several miles away.

Reporting "Above average temperatures in every region" sounds really warm, until you realize the average is -20F

That would be Argument from Incredulity: a logical fallacy.

 

[Crick]

Hold up on buying the snow cone maker, got ya....

So you two are taking the position that even if the normal temperature for a given location at a given time of the year were -40C, there is absolutely no need to worry about anything until it reaches 0C+. Right?

 

[jc456]

"December, January and February were 2 to 6 degrees Celsius (4 to 11 degrees Fahrenheit) above average in nearly every region...."

" Average January temperatures range from about −40 to 0 °C (−40 to +32 °F), and winter temperatures can drop below −50 °C (−58 °F) over large parts of the Arctic...."

Climate of the Arctic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, 4 degrees warmer than -40 is still pretty fucking cold, no?

So it doesn't matter? Argument from Incredulity?

so what is the matter with a -36 reading rather than -40? What is magically happening we're not aware of? enlighten the class.

 

[depotoo]

So, you think there was no data before 1972 available? And you think 4 decades of satellite data should be used to tout records when there have been millions of years of climate? Even temp data from the last 160 years would have more relevance than 4 decades worth, which still would be extremely lacking.p
And other data suggests they are stretching the truth.

They typically use the most recent 3 decade period. 1972 is the beginning of satellite data. Did that confuse you? And what issue were you addressing? Did you think the selection of baseline was the reason for the record value? If so, sorry, no.

 

[jc456]

Hold up on buying the snow cone maker, got ya....

So you two are taking the position that even if the normal temperature for a given location at a given time of the year were -40C, there is absolutely no need to worry about anything until it reaches 0C+. Right?

dude, it is what we've been asking you since forever in here. What is the issue? Do you know what the average temp in the Arctic is supposed to be? you do know what an average temperature is right? It isn't a normal temperature, cause if you're trying to state that it should always be -40 you're just goofy.

 

[Crick]

"December, January and February were 2 to 6 degrees Celsius (4 to 11 degrees Fahrenheit) above average in nearly every region...."

" Average January temperatures range from about −40 to 0 °C (−40 to +32 °F), and winter temperatures can drop below −50 °C (−58 °F) over large parts of the Arctic...."

Climate of the Arctic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So, 4 degrees warmer than -40 is still pretty fucking cold, no?

So it doesn't matter? Argument from Incredulity?

so what is the matter with a -36 reading rather than -40? What is magically happening we're not aware of? enlighten the class.

That spot on the planet got significantly warmer than it has historically been. Why do I need to explain this to you?

 

[jc456]

"December, January and February were 2 to 6 degrees Celsius (4 to 11 degrees Fahrenheit) above average in nearly every region...."

" Average January temperatures range from about −40 to 0 °C (−40 to +32 °F), and winter temperatures can drop below −50 °C (−58 °F) over large parts of the Arctic...."

Climate of the Arctic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So, 4 degrees warmer than -40 is still pretty fucking cold, no?

So it doesn't matter? Argument from Incredulity?

so what is the matter with a -36 reading rather than -40? What is magically happening we're not aware of? enlighten the class.

That spot on the planet got significantly warmer than it has historically been. Why do I need to explain this to you?

and so what? it is 4 degrees warmer at -36. so what, what is it that is going to magically happen. Again, we've been waiting for that explanation.