New poll on does Obama love America

[Pogo]

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EXACTLY !!

if they were, there never would have been a Declaration Of Independence, Revolutionary War, Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the freedom for the demofools and liberliars to spew their HATE of America.

The concepts of "freedom of speech", "all men are created equal" and the idea that power derives from "We the People" are the absolute essentials of Liberalism, like it or lump it. Conservatism of the time would have kept us subjects of the King and the Church. That's what Liberalism got rid of.

You're welcome, ingrate.

You are completely wrong. Individual freedom and individual rights are conservative values that were strongly held by the founders.

Uh, no Sparky, not even close. These were Revolutionary ideas for their time. Conservatism of that era would have (and did) told them to sit down, STFU and pay the King's taxes. Revisionism is for scriptwriters, not message board historians. This entire country and its Constitution is the direct product of Liberalism, like it or lump it. If that doesn't sound like it makes sense, maybe you need to start questioning that Rust Limpjaw voice on your radio and admit that he and his ilk are full-o-shit demagogues with agendas.

Today's liberals want a dictatorial monarchy with Obama as king and supreme ruler.

I thought the pages of your comic book were stuck together by now. What'd you do, blo-dry 'em?

So in your small mind you think that the founders in 1776 wanted a huge, intrusive, high taxing, over regulating federal government?

I suggest that you go by your local library and check out an american history 101 textbook. You have absolutely no idea what this country was founded on.

The founders left dictatorial monarchies in europe to escape to freedom in the US. Now, you silly libs want to crown your kenyan messiah and make him the dictator and king of the USA.

Your stupidity is pathetic.

Correct, the founders fought a revolutionary war to free us from precisely that form of tyranny. And you don't take up arms and fight a revolutionary war on a whim, not against England who had the strongest navy in the world and well trained officers and troops. That tells you the depth of the tyranny.

The point isn't, and was never, WHY we rose up in revolution. The point was what kind of glue we put ourselves together with. And that glue was, again, Liberalism.

Read much?

 

[g5000]

How many Constitutional crises are the Republicans going to force before the rubes finally wake up?

Goodness gracious and golly-gee-willickers, but I don't think you like the Republican approach to reining-in His Imperial Majesty.

Every example I gave was entirely avoidable by the GOP. Go back and read it again until you get it.

 

[g5000]

...At least 80 percent of Americans want legal status or a path to citizenship provided to illegals. At least 80 percent...

That's not what I see in looking at recent Gallup polls, but, maybe I missed something.

Kondor3
Yes, you missed something, because all the polls say ~80 percent of Americans want illegals to be given legal status or a path to citizenship.

You would have seen that if...you know... you actually LOOKED instead of lying and saying you looked.

...So why haven't the Republicans in Congress obeyed the vaunted Will of the People™? Hmmmmmm?...

Ummmmm... because your 80% number may not be as real as you would like us to believe?

And this is the part where I prove my claim and embarrass you at the same time, which is always my favorite part!

On immigration, Republicans favor path to legal status, but differ over citizenship

Poll Roundup Majority of Americans Support Immigration Reform With Citizenship - Immigration Reform America s Voice Immigration Reform America s Voice

A new Quinnipiac poll finds that 64 percent of voters support the Senate immigration bill, including 60 percent of Republicans.

Other polls that do this also find GOP support for this combination.

WSJ/NBC News Survey
July 17-21

• 44% of respondents would blame Republicans in Congress if immigration reform fails, while 14% would blame Democrats

United Technologies/National Journal Congressional Connection
July 11-14

• Only one in five say they want the GOP-controlled House to NOT act on immigration reform
• Only 13% say they want the House to strip the eventual pathway to citizenship measure from the bill that passed the Democratic-controlled Senate.

Gallup
June-July 2013

• 88% of Americans support allowing immigrants to become citizens
• 83% of conservatives support allowing immigrants to become citizens

What Americans Want From Immigration Reform in 2014

62% of Americans favor providing a way for immigrants who are currently living in the United States illegally to become citizens provided they meet certain requirements, while 17% support allowing them to become permanent legal residents

The Republican response:

 

[g5000]

A poll going back two years, right up to February 8 of this year:

Immigration

Most current poll shows 79 percent for legal status or citizenship.

 

[g5000]

The GOP is ignoring the Will of the People™.

They have been for years.

 

[Kondor3]

...Yes, you missed something, because all the polls say ~80 percent of Americans want illegals to be given legal status or a path to citizenship. You would have seen that if...you know... you actually LOOKED instead of lying and saying you looked...

Whatever in the world leads you to believe that I "lied" about examining public opinion-poll stats?

I merely looked at Gallup rather than the Pew Research Center...

Immigration Gallup Historical Trends

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Without regard to who says what, the fact is that there is no evidence that obama has any kinship with the principles that define America... let alone any affection for those immutable, natural principles, OKA: Reality.

 

[Staidhup]

I guess some people still want to buy these votes. Fine, however, lets see what the courts have to say about violation of federal law and executive orders.

 

[Staidhup]

The left's messiah wanted to knock America down a peg or two and change the country, well this he has done. Now lets see how this change works out.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The left's messiah wanted to knock America down a peg or two and change the country, well this he has done. Now lets see how this change works out.

Oh we already know the consequences of evil.

We endured the evil of the Clinton cult... and it produced 9-11-01.

We are now enduring a much greater evil in the obama Cult... the consequences of such will make 9-11-01, feel like a walk in the park.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The founding fathers were not liberal by todays standard.

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EXACTLY !!

if they were, there never would have been a Declaration Of Independence, Revolutionary War, Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the freedom for the demofools and liberliars to spew their HATE of America.

The concepts of "freedom of speech", "all men are created equal" and the idea that power derives from "We the People" are the absolute essentials of Liberalism, like it or lump it. Conservatism of the time would have kept us subjects of the King and the Church. That's what Liberalism got rid of.

You're welcome, ingrate.

You are completely wrong. Individual freedom and individual rights are conservative values that were strongly held by the founders.

Uh, no Sparky, not even close. These were Revolutionary ideas for their time. Conservatism of that era would have (and did) told them to sit down, STFU and pay the King's taxes. Revisionism is for scriptwriters, not message board historians. This entire country and its Constitution is the direct product of Liberalism, like it or lump it. If that doesn't sound like it makes sense, maybe you need to start questioning that Rust Limpjaw voice on your radio and admit that he and his ilk are full-o-shit demagogues with agendas.

Today's liberals want a dictatorial monarchy with Obama as king and supreme ruler.

I thought the pages of your comic book were stuck together by now. What'd you do, blo-dry 'em?

So in your small mind you think that the founders in 1776 wanted a huge, intrusive, high taxing, over regulating federal government?

I suggest that you go by your local library and check out an american history 101 textbook. You have absolutely no idea what this country was founded on.

The founders left dictatorial monarchies in europe to escape to freedom in the US. Now, you silly libs want to crown your kenyan messiah and make him the dictator and king of the USA.

Your stupidity is pathetic.

The only ones that ever make that claim are your bunch. What's the matter, you don't have one of your own? It sucks to be on the outside looking in.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The only ones that ever make that claim are your bunch. What's the matter, you don't have one of your own? It sucks to be on the outside looking in.

The thing to remember here, as no less an authority, than a Moderator of this very site recently noted:

THERE ARE NO LEFTIST AMERICANS!

And this is because Nature precludes the means for one to simultaneously
adhere to BOTH the AmericanThesis and the Antithesis. ​

 

[BluesLegend]

The concepts of "freedom of speech", "all men are created equal" and the idea that power derives from "We the People" are the absolute essentials of Liberalism, like it or lump it. Conservatism of the time would have kept us subjects of the King and the Church. That's what Liberalism got rid of.

You're welcome, ingrate.

You are completely wrong. Individual freedom and individual rights are conservative values that were strongly held by the founders.

Uh, no Sparky, not even close. These were Revolutionary ideas for their time. Conservatism of that era would have (and did) told them to sit down, STFU and pay the King's taxes. Revisionism is for scriptwriters, not message board historians. This entire country and its Constitution is the direct product of Liberalism, like it or lump it. If that doesn't sound like it makes sense, maybe you need to start questioning that Rust Limpjaw voice on your radio and admit that he and his ilk are full-o-shit demagogues with agendas.

Today's liberals want a dictatorial monarchy with Obama as king and supreme ruler.

I thought the pages of your comic book were stuck together by now. What'd you do, blo-dry 'em?

So in your small mind you think that the founders in 1776 wanted a huge, intrusive, high taxing, over regulating federal government?

I suggest that you go by your local library and check out an american history 101 textbook. You have absolutely no idea what this country was founded on.

The founders left dictatorial monarchies in europe to escape to freedom in the US. Now, you silly libs want to crown your kenyan messiah and make him the dictator and king of the USA.

Your stupidity is pathetic.

Correct, the founders fought a revolutionary war to free us from precisely that form of tyranny. And you don't take up arms and fight a revolutionary war on a whim, not against England who had the strongest navy in the world and well trained officers and troops. That tells you the depth of the tyranny.

The point isn't, and was never, WHY we rose up in revolution. The point was what kind of glue we put ourselves together with. And that glue was, again, Liberalism.

Read much?

Why do you libs insist on this "the founders were liberals" stupidity? We get it, you are trolling but is that the best you can do?

 

[Kondor3]

...Why do you libs insist on this "the founders were liberals" stupidity? We get it, you are trolling but is that the best you can do?

Liberals oftentimes seem to confuse Enlightenment -era influences on our Founders with a complete detachment from Western mores and beliefs and traditions.

Although nothing could be further from the truth, such a detachment excites the little buggers and gets 'em to salivating and quivering over the prospect.

And they do so love to try to pitch it that way - taking-in the naive and unimaginative who are unable to distinguish between 'influences' and 'immersion'.

 

[Redfish]

>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<
EXACTLY !!

if they were, there never would have been a Declaration Of Independence, Revolutionary War, Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the freedom for the demofools and liberliars to spew their HATE of America.

The concepts of "freedom of speech", "all men are created equal" and the idea that power derives from "We the People" are the absolute essentials of Liberalism, like it or lump it. Conservatism of the time would have kept us subjects of the King and the Church. That's what Liberalism got rid of.

You're welcome, ingrate.

You are completely wrong. Individual freedom and individual rights are conservative values that were strongly held by the founders.

Uh, no Sparky, not even close. These were Revolutionary ideas for their time. Conservatism of that era would have (and did) told them to sit down, STFU and pay the King's taxes. Revisionism is for scriptwriters, not message board historians. This entire country and its Constitution is the direct product of Liberalism, like it or lump it. If that doesn't sound like it makes sense, maybe you need to start questioning that Rust Limpjaw voice on your radio and admit that he and his ilk are full-o-shit demagogues with agendas.

Today's liberals want a dictatorial monarchy with Obama as king and supreme ruler.

I thought the pages of your comic book were stuck together by now. What'd you do, blo-dry 'em?

So in your small mind you think that the founders in 1776 wanted a huge, intrusive, high taxing, over regulating federal government?

I suggest that you go by your local library and check out an american history 101 textbook. You have absolutely no idea what this country was founded on.

The founders left dictatorial monarchies in europe to escape to freedom in the US. Now, you silly libs want to crown your kenyan messiah and make him the dictator and king of the USA.

Your stupidity is pathetic.

The only ones that ever make that claim are your bunch. What's the matter, you don't have one of your own? It sucks to be on the outside looking in.

its not a claim, its a historical fact.

 

[Pogo]

...Why do you libs insist on this "the founders were liberals" stupidity? We get it, you are trolling but is that the best you can do?

Liberals oftentimes seem to confuse Enlightenment -era influences on our Founders with a complete detachment from Western mores and beliefs and traditions.

Although nothing could be further from the truth, such a detachment excites the little buggers and gets 'em to salivating and quivering over the prospect.

And they do so love to try to pitch it that way - taking-in the naive and unimaginative who are unable to distinguish between 'influences' and 'immersion'.

Has nothing whatever to do with "detachment" from any "mores", Western or otherwise oriented; It's simple historical fact: Liberalism created the U S and A. It's on the record. It's done. Carved in stone. On tape. Put to bed and sent to the printer. Fait accompli. It's soup.

Revisionistas just can't stand being corrected with a history book. They jump up and down, the whine, they insult, they gainsay. But they can't refute.

Ya gotta wonder when it's gonna dawn on them that the corrections are not going away and maybe they might be better advised to quit continually revising expecting different results.

 

[Kondor3]

...Why do you libs insist on this "the founders were liberals" stupidity? We get it, you are trolling but is that the best you can do?

Liberals oftentimes seem to confuse Enlightenment -era influences on our Founders with a complete detachment from Western mores and beliefs and traditions.

Although nothing could be further from the truth, such a detachment excites the little buggers and gets 'em to salivating and quivering over the prospect.

And they do so love to try to pitch it that way - taking-in the naive and unimaginative who are unable to distinguish between 'influences' and 'immersion'.

Has nothing whatever to do with "detachment" from any "mores", Western or otherwise oriented; It's simple historical fact: Liberalism created the U S and A. It's on the record. It's done. Carved in stone. On tape. Put to bed and sent to the printer. Fait accompli. It's soup.

Revisionistas just can't stand being corrected with a history book. They jump up and down, the whine, they insult, they gainsay. But they can't refute.

Ya gotta wonder when it's gonna dawn on them that the corrections are not going away and maybe they might be better advised to quit continually revising expecting different results.

We disagree. I've already laid-out the basis for a case. It will have to stand or fall on its own merits.

 

[Redfish]

...Why do you libs insist on this "the founders were liberals" stupidity? We get it, you are trolling but is that the best you can do?

Liberals oftentimes seem to confuse Enlightenment -era influences on our Founders with a complete detachment from Western mores and beliefs and traditions.

Although nothing could be further from the truth, such a detachment excites the little buggers and gets 'em to salivating and quivering over the prospect.

And they do so love to try to pitch it that way - taking-in the naive and unimaginative who are unable to distinguish between 'influences' and 'immersion'.

Has nothing whatever to do with "detachment" from any "mores", Western or otherwise oriented; It's simple historical fact: Liberalism created the U S and A. It's on the record. It's done. Carved in stone. On tape. Put to bed and sent to the printer. Fait accompli. It's soup.

Revisionistas just can't stand being corrected with a history book. They jump up and down, the whine, they insult, they gainsay. But they can't refute.

Ya gotta wonder when it's gonna dawn on them that the corrections are not going away and maybe they might be better advised to quit continually revising expecting different results.

We disagree. I've already laid-out the basis for a case. It will have to stand or fall on its own merits.

ignore the liberal BS. The founders were as far from today's liberals as a gator is to a polar bear.

 

[BluesLegend]

...Why do you libs insist on this "the founders were liberals" stupidity? We get it, you are trolling but is that the best you can do?

Liberals oftentimes seem to confuse Enlightenment -era influences on our Founders with a complete detachment from Western mores and beliefs and traditions.

Although nothing could be further from the truth, such a detachment excites the little buggers and gets 'em to salivating and quivering over the prospect.

And they do so love to try to pitch it that way - taking-in the naive and unimaginative who are unable to distinguish between 'influences' and 'immersion'.

Has nothing whatever to do with "detachment" from any "mores", Western or otherwise oriented; It's simple historical fact: Liberalism created the U S and A. It's on the record. It's done. Carved in stone. On tape. Put to bed and sent to the printer. Fait accompli. It's soup.

Revisionistas just can't stand being corrected with a history book. They jump up and down, the whine, they insult, they gainsay. But they can't refute.

Ya gotta wonder when it's gonna dawn on them that the corrections are not going away and maybe they might be better advised to quit continually revising expecting different results.

We disagree. I've already laid-out the basis for a case. It will have to stand or fall on its own merits.

ignore the liberal BS. The founders were as far from today's liberals as a gator is to a polar bear.

Can you imagine any of todays modern liberals spending the winter camped at Valley Forge? Utterly laughable. This is just the latest LIE in a long string of LIES told by the left. Used car salesmen are more honest.

 

[Kondor3]

...Can you imagine any of todays modern liberals spending the winter camped at Valley Forge?...

Truthfully, No.