New Hawaii law shuns Obama birth document requests

There is a fake judge, a fake jury, fake witnesses, fake charges, a fake prosecution, and fake indictments. There are no defense attorneys, fake or otherwise. Nobody to object; nobody to cross-examine witnesses. But these are Birthers and itÂ’s how they roll. They donÂ’t want to take the chance of hearing something they donÂ’t want to know.
What kind of people would associate with this cretinous megalomaniacal charlatan, Manning? If you guessed Birthers, ‘Baggers and the American Grand Jury, you guessed right.

Fake everything. I wonder how many wives of birthers are blissfully unaware that their diamond ring is actually a cubic zirconium?
 
I "have nothing to hide" either. That doesn't mean I'll be showing any of you my birth certificate ever. Let me ask this: if you saw a copy of his birth certificate, would any of you still question him on being legit?

If it was a real certificate with a raised seal and validated that it was from his birth year...no, i wouldn't question him any longer. But, i want it validated by people i would trust - not a left leaning governor that calls herself a republican.

Since state officials in Hawaii no longer meet your criteria, who do you "trust"?
 
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ItÂ’s almost all people you never heard of, some from ManningÂ’s congregation, and one postal worker, but you may remember Cody Judy, who spent seven years in jail for threatening to blow up 17,000 Mormons at a Marriott Center conference at Brigham Young University in the early Â’90s, and ran as a write-in candidate for the US House of Representatives from Utah in 2002 the US Senate in 2004. There are two other Birfoons currently running for Congress and one for governor of New York, whose names escape me.


Dick Cheney was a no show, though subpoenaed, along with a bunch of other famous people.


Evidence includes video of John Drew, the guy who did not go to school with Obama, but met him twice at Occidental College and knew him for a commie, right away; LTC Lakin, who never has anything to say, anyway; and Ron Polland aka “Polarik” who is often claimed by Birthers and himself as a digital forensics expert, but isn’t. Not to worry, Polland submitted a notarized statement swearing his own video is genuine. Wayne Allan Root, who never met Obama at Columbia, and ran for vice president as a Libertarian in 2008, will be calling in by Skype today.


A sad cast of characters for such a promising plot.
I mean, where are the star Birthers? WhereÂ’s Orly? Where is Phil Berg? Mario Apuzzo. Leo Donofrio. Gary Kreep. Joseph Farah. Alan Keyes.

Manning draws only the stand-ins in a third rate production and he canÂ’t even get Lucas Smith. Ah, well, there are three more days to go and the American Grand Jury may be good for an arrest or two.

Oh Polarik and Lakin. They are only missing Walt Fitzpatrick, who might be in jail still for having the balls to actually try to arrest an actual citizen based on "Citizen's Grand Jury" proceedings. Walt's a little crazy.

The last I heard of Smith was that he was getting the hell out of dodge after he realized that Orly almost got him in serious legal trouble for perjury or some such thing.
 
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ItÂ’s almost all people you never heard of, some from ManningÂ’s congregation, and one postal worker, but you may remember Cody Judy, who spent seven years in jail for threatening to blow up 17,000 Mormons at a Marriott Center conference at Brigham Young University in the early Â’90s, and ran as a write-in candidate for the US House of Representatives from Utah in 2002 the US Senate in 2004. There are two other Birfoons currently running for Congress and one for governor of New York, whose names escape me.


Dick Cheney was a no show, though subpoenaed, along with a bunch of other famous people.


Evidence includes video of John Drew, the guy who did not go to school with Obama, but met him twice at Occidental College and knew him for a commie, right away; LTC Lakin, who never has anything to say, anyway; and Ron Polland aka “Polarik” who is often claimed by Birthers and himself as a digital forensics expert, but isn’t. Not to worry, Polland submitted a notarized statement swearing his own video is genuine. Wayne Allan Root, who never met Obama at Columbia, and ran for vice president as a Libertarian in 2008, will be calling in by Skype today.


A sad cast of characters for such a promising plot.
I mean, where are the star Birthers? WhereÂ’s Orly? Where is Phil Berg? Mario Apuzzo. Leo Donofrio. Gary Kreep. Joseph Farah. Alan Keyes.

Manning draws only the stand-ins in a third rate production and he canÂ’t even get Lucas Smith. Ah, well, there are three more days to go and the American Grand Jury may be good for an arrest or two.

Oh Polarik and Lakin. They are only missing Walt Fitzpatrick, who might be in jail still for having the balls to actually try to arrest an actual citizen based on "Citizen's Grand Jury" proceedings. Walt's a little crazy.

The last I heard of Smith was that he was getting the hell out of dodge after he realized that Orly almost got him in serious legal trouble for perjury or some such thing.
I'll give them one thing: they are a colorful cast of characters. lol.
 
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So basically if Bush were under suspicion of where he was born, when he was president, then of course all the liberals would let it go and not worry about his birth certificate right?
 
I "have nothing to hide" either. That doesn't mean I'll be showing any of you my birth certificate ever. Let me ask this: if you saw a copy of his birth certificate, would any of you still question him on being legit?

If it was a real certificate with a raised seal and validated that it was from his birth year...no, i wouldn't question him any longer. But, i want it validated by people i would trust - not a left leaning governor that calls herself a republican.

Since state officials in Hawaii no longer meet your criteria, who do you "trust"?

Well, i guess if there were a couple known honest right wing and a couple known honest left wing people in the same room verifying it - and all 4 came up with it being a true copy, then i would believe it. We could even throw in Glenn Beck and Oberstupid to even it out - if they agreed then i'd really know the truth! :)
 
It is not just about his birth certificate, there are a thousand other things about him that are hidden, and possibly criminal, unethical and immoral, that he is defending. I won't list them all here but I can.

So if he were washed white as snow on his birth, that would only be the beginning of proceedings against him.
 
It is not just about his birth certificate, there are a thousand other things about him that are hidden, and possibly criminal, unethical and immoral, that he is defending. I won't list them all here but I can.

So if he were washed white as snow on his birth, that would only be the beginning of proceedings against him.

Oh Really?

Seems strange that the entire Republican Party was unable to come up with anything prior to or since he was elected POTUS

Bunch of Slackers......They tried all the White Hating/Terrorist Loving, unamerican, Muslim garbage but were unable to prove he wasn't born in the USA?
 
Well, i guess if there were a couple known honest right wing and a couple known honest left wing people in the same room verifying it - and all 4 came up with it being a true copy, then i would believe it. We could even throw in Glenn Beck and Oberstupid to even it out - if they agreed then i'd really know the truth! :)

So you basically fall under the category of "I want a special process to verify this"?

What is wrong with the current system? Why would you trust a bunch of pundits over a Dr. and the director of Hawaii's health and human services department?
 
It is not just about his birth certificate,

You are right. In fact, it's not about his birth certificate at all.

there are a thousand other things about him that are hidden, and possibly criminal, unethical and immoral, that he is defending. I won't list them all here but I can.

List away. For the sake of avoiding stupidity, let's just limit ourselves to items that are actionable like "criminal" (and thus prosecutable) and omit the "unethical and immoral" since those are subjective terms that really mean different things to different people.

So if he were washed white as snow on his birth, that would only be the beginning of proceedings against him.

What?
 
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Well, i guess if there were a couple known honest right wing and a couple known honest left wing people in the same room verifying it - and all 4 came up with it being a true copy, then i would believe it. We could even throw in Glenn Beck and Oberstupid to even it out - if they agreed then i'd really know the truth! :)

So you basically fall under the category of "I want a special process to verify this"?

What is wrong with the current system? Why would you trust a bunch of pundits over a Dr. and the director of Hawaii's health and human services department?

Well, i think this is big enough to have a "special" process. It's gotten so nobody believes anybody! In a way this is really sad...so many people in the US are fighting, there's so much distrust and it's getting so you really don't know who to believe anymore!
I've often wondered if this was all the plan...not just by the left, but by both sides in government. Get everyone fighting mad at eachother, then eventually something bad enough will happen that the government can put marshall law into effect. I really don't trust ANYONE on either side of the govt...but i do have this feeling that obama was put in this place and these things are happening on purpose.
Can't everyone see how he and the whole govt is playing people against eachother? I'm in my 50's, and i have NEVER seen this happen this bad before. That being said....I don't believe anything that obama says or has ever said, and i believe his roll is to split this country up, which is the one thing he's doing good at!
 
If it was a real certificate with a raised seal and validated that it was from his birth year...no, i wouldn't question him any longer. But, i want it validated by people i would trust - not a left leaning governor that calls herself a republican.

Since state officials in Hawaii no longer meet your criteria, who do you "trust"?

Well, i guess if there were a couple known honest right wing and a couple known honest left wing people in the same room verifying it - and all 4 came up with it being a true copy, then i would believe it. We could even throw in Glenn Beck and Oberstupid to even it out - if they agreed then i'd really know the truth! :)
Carol jo,
May I ask you: How can you support the Birthers when ONE LIE AFTER ANOTHER of theirs has been exposed as LIES?

Yet, you do not believe the Hawaii Director of health and vital statistics, who is a republican, and the governor of Hawaii who is also a Republican, verification of Hawaii records of Obama's birth, when they have NEVER BEEN FOUND TO BE LIARS, such as the various lies of the Birthers that HAVE BEEN EXPOSED?

How can you choose to trust a bunch of LIARS, while dismissing two upstanding citizens and government officials, let alone dismissing the state of Hawaii's notarized copy of Obama's birth certificate that was examined by, a well known to be 100% accurate independent fact checker?

Where is your ethical stance in this issue? I don't see it? I don't know how you can even think you are on the up and up with this issue? I really don't..... :(

Care

P.S. and I did NOT vote for Obama, so spare me the tripe on that....pretty please.
 
If it was a real certificate with a raised seal and validated that it was from his birth year...no, i wouldn't question him any longer. But, i want it validated by people i would trust - not a left leaning governor that calls herself a republican.

Since state officials in Hawaii no longer meet your criteria, who do you "trust"?

Well, i guess if there were a couple known honest right wing and a couple known honest left wing people in the same room verifying it - and all 4 came up with it being a true copy, then i would believe it. We could even throw in Glenn Beck and Oberstupid to even it out - if they agreed then i'd really know the truth! :)

A left leaning governor? Not according to the issues: Linda Lingle on the Issues - she's a centrist.
 
Well, i think this is big enough to have a "special" process. It's gotten so nobody believes anybody! In a way this is really sad...so many people in the US are fighting, there's so much distrust and it's getting so you really don't know who to believe anymore!
I've often wondered if this was all the plan...not just by the left, but by both sides in government. Get everyone fighting mad at eachother, then eventually something bad enough will happen that the government can put marshall law into effect. I really don't trust ANYONE on either side of the govt...but i do have this feeling that obama was put in this place and these things are happening on purpose.
Can't everyone see how he and the whole govt is playing people against eachother? I'm in my 50's, and i have NEVER seen this happen this bad before. That being said....I don't believe anything that obama says or has ever said, and i believe his roll is to split this country up, which is the one thing he's doing good at!

For the overwhelmingly vast majority of the country, to include the GOP, this is a non-issue.

Only the birthers care. Obama isn't doing this. They are.
 

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