New Hawaii law shuns Obama birth document requests

[Care4all]

Let me count the lies that were exposed as lies:

LIE #1- his grandmother repeatedly said he was born in Kenya....

I personally listened to the tape of THE radio jock with a purpose... trying to corner his grandmother in to saying he was born in Kenya and then dismissing her repeated statement that he was born in hawaii....AND I mean repeatedly, she kept telling the jock, and he kept trying to twist what she said....or kept ignoring her response....he was a complete PLANT and up to no good. Have YOU listened to the tape that the birthers presented as supposed proof on this....I would guess NOT, because if you had, you would have seen the lie.

LIE #2 That Obama was an Indonesian citizen

I researched this, and also reviewed the application his step father used to get in Obama in to school....WHERE IT LISTS his place of birth, as Honolulu Hawaii. How, btw, can you accept this application as proof that obama got a duel citizenship, WITHOUT ACCEPTING, that he was born in Honolulu?

Also, no child born in America can give up their citizenship before the age of 18, the age of legal consent and NO PARENT can relinquish their child's citizenship....check out the Law of the Land dear.

LIE #3- Mrs. Obama was on vacation in Kenya when Barry was born, she tried to come home to deliver obama but kenya would not let her fly home until after she delivered her baby....

there has been absolutely NO EVIDENCE of this being the truth. No passport records, no embassy records, no records of any kind, that show this made up story is true.

Yet there is a record with the state of hawaii that Obama was born in Honolulu and his birth registered with the Hawaii State health Bureau on august 8th, just 4 days after his birth. How do you suppose mrs obama was able to deliver her baby in Kenya, stay the 3 days in the hospital which was protocol after labor and delivery, then book several international flights to get back to hawaii, by the time his birth certificate was registered? HINT: IMPOSSIBLE. any child being born out of country, parents have to apply with the Health Bureau Director, with all the proper paperwork, to request citizenship, for their child....this takes months, it is IMPOSSIBLE for the Health Bureau to have registered records of obama's birth in Honolulu on 8/8/61.

In addition to this, the Hawaii Health Bureau of Statistics, weekly, ran an article in the local honolulu news papers, listing the births of children in Honolulu, for the previous week, listing any marriages that took place, and other gvt functions that took place. the week after obama was born in Honolulu, they listed his birth in this government health statistics area of the news paper....

The birthers lied, and said his grandmother or a friend put the ad announcement in the paper, but when you get the link to the ad, you can clearly see, in both honolulu papers, this section was a section the the STATE of Hawaii put out....NOT for the private sector....oh, that was LIE # 4....

I can go on and on and on.... And I did take the time to research ALL of this and ALL of the birther's accusations....because when I first heard them, I thought it was possible. But when I did the research on their accusations, time and time again, I found them to be LIES and fabrications.

Oh yeah, LIE # 5, the foreign scholarship that took place at Occidental college....that was ALL LIE, there was no scholarship offed to undergraduate students from this supposed foreign source....sheesh.

 

[Coyote]

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[SuMar]

There wasn't any plants during any interviews. All conspiracy theories.

 

[zeitgeist2012]

There wasn't any plants during any interviews. All conspiracy theories.

Pastor Manning requests that the charge of sedition be re-instated. Approved by Judge Unger

( conservativemonster.com....thanks Homer! )

 

[theDoctorisIn]

He was never adopted.

He has always been Barack Obama.

Does that answer your question?

$10 says this won't be sufficient.

No - you're wrong...if it's the truth then that's sufficient. So where did the name Barry Sotoros come up then?

"Barry" is a nickname of Barack. It doesn't sound as weird. When you're a kid, it's easier to fit in than stand out.

"Soetoro" is the last name of the man his mother married after her and Barack's father split. "Barry Soetoro" is the name that he used to register for school in Indonesia. He was NEVER adopted by Lolo Soetoro, but used the name because it made it easier to register for school.

Did that answer your question?

 

[Founder]

I requested a copy of my birth certificate from the state of Alabama, paid them 15 bucks for it, and they did not send me my birth certificate, but they sent me a certificate of live birth INSTEAD.....I was very disappointed, because I wanted to find out the TIME of day I was born and my mom said she could not remember....the COLB did not list my time of birth.

Hawaii IS NOT THE ONLY STATE that issues COLB's for their citizens requesting a copy of their birth certificates.

I recently got a passport to travel overseas, and the State of Maine, took my COLB as identification and sent it off to the federal gvt in my application for the passport, and about 2 weeks after I APPLIED, THE FEDERAL GVT RETURNED MY colb TO me and issued me my passport.

WHY DO PEOPLE THINK
the COLB is NOT a legal form of one's birth certificate?

It is legal for lots of purposes BUT, not all. It is subject to a vast array of frauds. Some of them pertain to Obama. If no one questions the honesty of it, it passes. It is what they give to the press which is why the Honolulu papers have his birth announcement, but if fraud is alleged it is not worth the paper it is printed on, and it will not stand up in court to scrutiny. Why can't you Kook Aid drinking Democrats get that simple fact through your Obambot heads? Look, Obama may have been born anytime, anywhere. It is very easy to go to the health dept and just say the baby was born at home and they will give you a provisional certificate, which is the kind he is showing around. You can't get that certificate without filling out a form and it is that form that he has and the Gov has, but refuses to show us. He is lying and you and all his supporters are simply lying. All he needs to do is show us the original application that was filled out to get the certificate that he waves around. You know this. Why lie your socks off? If you or anyone insists they will give you the real certificate that trumps the COLB. Why lie and burn in hell for it?

 

[Dante]

Let me count the lies that were exposed as lies:

LIE #1- his grandmother repeatedly said he was born in Kenya....

I personally listened to the tape of THE radio jock with a purpose... trying to corner his grandmother in to saying he was born in Kenya and then dismissing her repeated statement that he was born in hawaii....AND I mean repeatedly, she kept telling the jock, and he kept trying to twist what she said....or kept ignoring her response....he was a complete PLANT and up to no good. Have YOU listened to the tape that the birthers presented as supposed proof on this....I would guess NOT, because if you had, you would have seen the lie.

LIE #2 That Obama was an Indonesian citizen

I researched this, and also reviewed the application his step father used to get in Obama in to school....WHERE IT LISTS his place of birth, as Honolulu Hawaii. How, btw, can you accept this application as proof that obama got a duel citizenship, WITHOUT ACCEPTING, that he was born in Honolulu?

Also, no child born in America can give up their citizenship before the age of 18, the age of legal consent and NO PARENT can relinquish their child's citizenship....check out the Law of the Land dear.

LIE #3- Mrs. Obama was on vacation in Kenya when Barry was born, she tried to come home to deliver obama but kenya would not let her fly home until after she delivered her baby....

there has been absolutely NO EVIDENCE of this being the truth. No passport records, no embassy records, no records of any kind, that show this made up story is true.

Yet there is a record with the state of hawaii that Obama was born in Honolulu and his birth registered with the Hawaii State health Bureau on august 8th, just 4 days after his birth. How do you suppose mrs obama was able to deliver her baby in Kenya, stay the 3 days in the hospital which was protocol after labor and delivery, then book several international flights to get back to hawaii, by the time his birth certificate was registered? HINT: IMPOSSIBLE. any child being born out of country, parents have to apply with the Health Bureau Director, with all the proper paperwork, to request citizenship, for their child....this takes months, it is IMPOSSIBLE for the Health Bureau to have registered records of obama's birth in Honolulu on 8/8/61.

In addition to this, the Hawaii Health Bureau of Statistics, weekly, ran an article in the local honolulu news papers, listing the births of children in Honolulu, for the previous week, listing any marriages that took place, and other gvt functions that took place. the week after obama was born in Honolulu, they listed his birth in this government health statistics area of the news paper....

The birthers lied, and said his grandmother or a friend put the ad announcement in the paper, but when you get the link to the ad, you can clearly see, in both honolulu papers, this section was a section the the STATE of Hawaii put out....NOT for the private sector....oh, that was LIE # 4....

I can go on and on and on.... And I did take the time to research ALL of this and ALL of the birther's accusations....because when I first heard them, I thought it was possible. But when I did the research on their accusations, time and time again, I found them to be LIES and fabrications.

Oh yeah, LIE # 5, the foreign scholarship that took place at Occidental college....that was ALL LIE, there was no scholarship offed to undergraduate students from this supposed foreign source....sheesh.

the application his step father used to get ... Obama in to school....WHERE IT LISTS his place of birth, as Honolulu Hawaii.


but, but, but Obama's a Socialist!

 

[Dante]

I requested a copy of my birth certificate from the state of Alabama, paid them 15 bucks for it, and they did not send me my birth certificate, but they sent me a certificate of live birth INSTEAD.....I was very disappointed, because I wanted to find out the TIME of day I was born and my mom said she could not remember....the COLB did not list my time of birth.

Hawaii IS NOT THE ONLY STATE that issues COLB's for their citizens requesting a copy of their birth certificates.

I recently got a passport to travel overseas, and the State of Maine, took my COLB as identification and sent it off to the federal gvt in my application for the passport, and about 2 weeks after I APPLIED, THE FEDERAL GVT RETURNED MY colb TO me and issued me my passport.

WHY DO PEOPLE THINK
the COLB is NOT a legal form of one's birth certificate?

It is legal for lots of purposes BUT, not all. It is subject to a vast array of frauds. Some of them pertain to Obama. If no one questions the honesty of it, it passes. It is what they give to the press which is why the Honolulu papers have his birth announcement, but if fraud is alleged it is not worth the paper it is printed on, and it will not stand up in court to scrutiny. Why can't you Kook Aid drinking Democrats get that simple fact through your Obambot heads? Look, Obama may have been born anytime, anywhere. It is very easy to go to the health dept and just say the baby was born at home and they will give you a provisional certificate, which is the kind he is showing around. You can't get that certificate without filling out a form and it is that form that he has and the Gov has, but refuses to show us. He is lying and you and all his supporters are simply lying. All he needs to do is show us the original application that was filled out to get the certificate that he waves around. You know this. Why lie your socks off? If you or anyone insists they will give you the real certificate that trumps the COLB. Why lie and burn in hell for it?

Dear douchebagh, it isn't only Democrats that accept the fact that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Many of the same mouthpieces that help spread the rumors are laughing at dicks like you, behind your backs.

 

[SmarterThanHick]

If it was a real certificate with a raised seal and validated that it was from his birth year...no, i wouldn't question him any longer. But, i want it validated by people i would trust - not a left leaning governor that calls herself a republican.

Right. You need an expert you can trust to verify a piece of paper with a stamp on it. Because pieces of paper are very rare, and difficult to identify. And only a republican, ignoring the two who already verified it, would be able to be trusted.

It is not just about his birth certificate, there are a thousand other things about him that are hidden, and possibly criminal, unethical and immoral, that he is defending. I won't list them all here but I can.

So if he were washed white as snow on his birth, that would only be the beginning of proceedings against him.

I see. So because you don't know something about him, he must be guilty and evil. That makes perfect sense. For rabid people who cling to American "values", you have no problem replacing that whole "innocent until proven guilty" with "evil until I decide otherwise, which will never happen".

 

[Dante]

If it was a real certificate with a raised seal and validated that it was from his birth year...no, i wouldn't question him any longer. But, i want it validated by people i would trust - not a left leaning governor that calls herself a republican.

Right. You need an expert you can trust to verify a piece of paper with a stamp on it. Because pieces of paper are very rare, and difficult to identify. And only a republican, ignoring the two who already verified it, would be able to be trusted.

It is not just about his birth certificate, there are a thousand other things about him that are hidden, and possibly criminal, unethical and immoral, that he is defending. I won't list them all here but I can.

So if he were washed white as snow on his birth, that would only be the beginning of proceedings against him.

I see. So because you don't know something about him, he must be guilty and evil. That makes perfect sense. For rabid people who cling to American "values", you have no problem replacing that whole "innocent until proven guilty" with "evil until I decide otherwise, which will never happen".

​

 

[zeitgeist2012]

Here are some investigative and other interesting FACTS about your muslime usurper who was allowed to infiltrate our gov't:

An investigative report detailing the Obama eligibility controversy

The Secret History of Barack Hussein Obama and the Columbia University Treason Trial

Note to Obama supporters: even a birth in Hawaii is not enough | The Post & Email

Hearing set for officer challenging eligibility

Bouvier's law dictionary and concise ... - Google Books

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 (Citizenship): William Blackstone, Commentaries 1:354, 357--58, 361--62



Investigators: Obama uses Connecticut Soc. Sec. Number

Report: Obama using fraudulent Social Security number? | The Gouverneur Times

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Here are some investigative and other interesting FACTS about your muslime usurper who was allowed to infiltrate our gov't:

An investigative report detailing the Obama eligibility controversy

The Secret History of Barack Hussein Obama and the Columbia University Treason Trial

Note to Obama supporters: even a birth in Hawaii is not enough | The Post & Email

Hearing set for officer challenging eligibility

Bouvier's law dictionary and concise ... - Google Books

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 (Citizenship): William Blackstone, Commentaries 1:354, 357--58, 361--62



Investigators: Obama uses Connecticut Soc. Sec. Number

Report: Obama using fraudulent Social Security number? | The Gouverneur Times

You are aware that the madman Obama's Chief of Staff is Jewish right? Not too mention many other various staffers. Hell, He just nominated one to The U.S Supreme Court. Obama is no Muslim, he's just another puppet. ~BH

 

[geauxtohell]

your muslime usurper

Oh, I see. You've taken the noun Muslim and added an e to the end of it to make it "muslime" as in "slime".

Very clever.

Well, not really, but hey; we all know you are doing the best that you can.

 

[Founder]

If it was a real certificate with a raised seal and validated that it was from his birth year...no, i wouldn't question him any longer. But, i want it validated by people i would trust - not a left leaning governor that calls herself a republican.

Right. You need an expert you can trust to verify a piece of paper with a stamp on it. Because pieces of paper are very rare, and difficult to identify. And only a republican, ignoring the two who already verified it, would be able to be trusted.

It is not just about his birth certificate, there are a thousand other things about him that are hidden, and possibly criminal, unethical and immoral, that he is defending. I won't list them all here but I can.

So if he were washed white as snow on his birth, that would only be the beginning of proceedings against him.

I see. So because you don't know something about him, he must be guilty and evil. That makes perfect sense. For rabid people who cling to American "values", you have no problem replacing that whole "innocent until proven guilty" with "evil until I decide otherwise, which will never happen".

​

Sorry, but there is a presumption of guilt about people who hide things, especially when they are Presidents, who have NO right to privacy. If they want privacy stay out of the Oval office.

 

[EriktheRed]

Sorry, but there is a presumption of guilt about people who hide things, especially when they are Presidents, who have NO right to privacy. If they want privacy stay out of the Oval office.

But when idiots think a Prez is hiding something just because they don't want to believe what they've been shown....

 

[geauxtohell]

Sorry, but there is a presumption of guilt about people who hide things,

Jesus H. Murphy you are dumb.

especially when they are Presidents, who have NO right to privacy. If they want privacy stay out of the Oval office.

Presidents don't have a right to privacy? That's news to me.

 

[SmarterThanHick]

Sorry, but there is a presumption of guilt about people who hide things, especially when they are Presidents, who have NO right to privacy. If they want privacy stay out of the Oval office.

really now? tell me: how many times do you masturbate per week? How many sexual partners have you had in your life? What's your social security number, name, address, and date of birth? Also, I need you to PM me the numbers of every credit card you have, with an approximate spending limit.

And if you hide from me any of these things, then there is the presumption that you are guilty.... of something.

 

[zeitgeist2012]

Here are some investigative and other interesting FACTS about your muslime usurper who was allowed to infiltrate our gov't:

An investigative report detailing the Obama eligibility controversy

The Secret History of Barack Hussein Obama and the Columbia University Treason Trial

Note to Obama supporters: even a birth in Hawaii is not enough | The Post & Email

Hearing set for officer challenging eligibility

Bouvier's law dictionary and concise ... - Google Books

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 (Citizenship): William Blackstone, Commentaries 1:354, 357--58, 361--62



Investigators: Obama uses Connecticut Soc. Sec. Number

Report: Obama using fraudulent Social Security number? | The Gouverneur Times

You are aware that the madman Obama's Chief of Staff is Jewish right? Not too mention many other various staffers. Hell, He just nominated one to The U.S Supreme Court. Obama is no Muslim, he's just another puppet. ~BH

Yes.... I'm well aware of the facts you mentioned and much more. However, Obama is a Muslime eventhough he is caught up in a very serious secular game of Elitism.... You think that the Islamic ruling class will be left out of the global agenda?

The Destruction of America!

The Destruction of America

Terrorists with Weapons of Mass Destruction are America’s Biggest Threat according to Hillary Clinton, In response Obama Cuts Border Security in his 2011 Budget – Makes Sense to Me!

http://www.uhuh.com/control/garden.htm

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebg6AFylios&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - New MOA Terror Training Video Exposed[/ame]

 

[G.T.]

Here are some investigative and other interesting FACTS about your muslime usurper who was allowed to infiltrate our gov't:

An investigative report detailing the Obama eligibility controversy

The Secret History of Barack Hussein Obama and the Columbia University Treason Trial

Note to Obama supporters: even a birth in Hawaii is not enough | The Post & Email

Hearing set for officer challenging eligibility

Bouvier's law dictionary and concise ... - Google Books

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 (Citizenship): William Blackstone, Commentaries 1:354, 357--58, 361--62



Investigators: Obama uses Connecticut Soc. Sec. Number

Report: Obama using fraudulent Social Security number? | The Gouverneur Times

@ posting this shit. All this shit's fake dogg, do some ******* reading for ****'s sake.

 

[G.T.]

Here are some investigative and other interesting FACTS about your muslime usurper who was allowed to infiltrate our gov't:

An investigative report detailing the Obama eligibility controversy

The Secret History of Barack Hussein Obama and the Columbia University Treason Trial

Note to Obama supporters: even a birth in Hawaii is not enough | The Post & Email

Hearing set for officer challenging eligibility

Bouvier's law dictionary and concise ... - Google Books

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 (Citizenship): William Blackstone, Commentaries 1:354, 357--58, 361--62



Investigators: Obama uses Connecticut Soc. Sec. Number

Report: Obama using fraudulent Social Security number? | The Gouverneur Times

You are aware that the madman Obama's Chief of Staff is Jewish right? Not too mention many other various staffers. Hell, He just nominated one to The U.S Supreme Court. Obama is no Muslim, he's just another puppet. ~BH

Yes.... I'm well aware of the facts you mentioned and much more. However, Obama is a Muslime eventhough he is caught up in a very serious secular game of Elitism.... You think that the Islamic ruling class will be left out of the global agenda?

The Destruction of America!

The Destruction of America

Terrorists with Weapons of Mass Destruction are America’s Biggest Threat according to Hillary Clinton, In response Obama Cuts Border Security in his 2011 Budget – Makes Sense to Me!

Operation Garden Plot

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebg6AFylios&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - New MOA Terror Training Video Exposed[/ame]