New Hamas Charter to Redefine 'enemy'...

[Hollie]

Let's hope that the outdated charter is revised properly and makes a clear definition between the state of Israel, the people of Israel and the settlers...

If this can be done then I think it is a positive move on behalf of Hamas.

“It means that we don’t fight Jews because they are Jews,” said Taher el-Nounou, a Hamas spokesman in Gaza. “Our struggle is only against those who occupied our lands.”

New Hamas charter would name ‘occupiers,’ not ‘Jews,’ as the enemy

This is could be a good thing!
Maybe Hamas is giving some kind of good signal to Israel
I'm not thinking they want to change their mind on Jews at all but the fact they don't call Jews enemies anymore is a little encouraging

Hamas does not have problems with the Jews.

“Hamas has no problem with the Jews, the problem is only with the Israeli occupation which is based on the Zionism,” Haneya told reporters after the meeting.

Gaza - Hamas Meets Neturei Karta Rabbis in Gaza Strip

Jews spending the day in Gaza.

Of course not.

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

 

[Humanity]

Let's hope that the outdated charter is revised properly and makes a clear definition between the state of Israel, the people of Israel and the settlers...

The whole point is NOT to distinguish between them. If they are Jewish -- then they are Occupiers.

They are changing the language. But not the ideology.

How so?

Is it not better to differentiate between the 'good' and the 'evil' than to lump everyone into one pot, so to speak?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Let's hope that the outdated charter is revised properly and makes a clear definition between the state of Israel, the people of Israel and the settlers...

If this can be done then I think it is a positive move on behalf of Hamas.

“It means that we don’t fight Jews because they are Jews,” said Taher el-Nounou, a Hamas spokesman in Gaza. “Our struggle is only against those who occupied our lands.”

New Hamas charter would name ‘occupiers,’ not ‘Jews,’ as the enemy

This is could be a good thing!
Maybe Hamas is giving some kind of good signal to Israel
I'm not thinking they want to change their mind on Jews at all but the fact they don't call Jews enemies anymore is a little encouraging

Hamas does not have problems with the Jews.

“Hamas has no problem with the Jews, the problem is only with the Israeli occupation which is based on the Zionism,” Haneya told reporters after the meeting.

Gaza - Hamas Meets Neturei Karta Rabbis in Gaza Strip

Jews spending the day in Gaza.

Of course not.

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

Jews are safer in Gaza than they are in Jerusalem.

 

[Humanity]

No, if they are undertaking a military occupation, they are occupiers. I think it is pretty simple. LOL

Your retreat to simple is expected. LOL. There is no indication that the Hamas fascists have done anything to materially change the goal of their fascist charter.

While you can claim ignorance to the facts, the facts are that your heroes in Hamas have a written Charter that spells out in concise language their cult fantasy of destroying Israel. You can deny the Hamas charter as a statement of the Islamic Death Cult but why would you expect others to share your ignorance and denial?

Did you not bother to even read what Hamas are looking to change?

Clearly not, you prefer to troll the post with your stupid BS...

Rather than circumcision they should have carried out frontal lobotomy with you Einstein!

 

[Hollie]

No, if they are undertaking a military occupation, they are occupiers. I think it is pretty simple. LOL

Your retreat to simple is expected. LOL. There is no indication that the Hamas fascists have done anything to materially change the goal of their fascist charter.

While you can claim ignorance to the facts, the facts are that your heroes in Hamas have a written Charter that spells out in concise language their cult fantasy of destroying Israel. You can deny the Hamas charter as a statement of the Islamic Death Cult but why would you expect others to share your ignorance and denial?

Did you not bother to even read what Hamas are looking to change?

Clearly not, you prefer to troll the post with your stupid BS...

Rather than circumcision they should have carried out frontal lobotomy with you Einstein!

I see you're on another silly tirade.

Why don't you tell us what is new and improved with this latest Death Cult Charter... you know.... the charter that doesn't exist yet.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Let's hope that the outdated charter is revised properly and makes a clear definition between the state of Israel, the people of Israel and the settlers...

If this can be done then I think it is a positive move on behalf of Hamas.

“It means that we don’t fight Jews because they are Jews,” said Taher el-Nounou, a Hamas spokesman in Gaza. “Our struggle is only against those who occupied our lands.”

New Hamas charter would name ‘occupiers,’ not ‘Jews,’ as the enemy

This is could be a good thing!
Maybe Hamas is giving some kind of good signal to Israel
I'm not thinking they want to change their mind on Jews at all but the fact they don't call Jews enemies anymore is a little encouraging

Hamas does not have problems with the Jews.

“Hamas has no problem with the Jews, the problem is only with the Israeli occupation which is based on the Zionism,” Haneya told reporters after the meeting.

Gaza - Hamas Meets Neturei Karta Rabbis in Gaza Strip

Jews spending the day in Gaza.

Of course not.

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

Jews are safer in Gaza than they are in Jerusalem.

You've fallen down and bumped your head again.

How many Jews have been killed in Gaza?

How many Jews have been killed in Jerusalem?

 

[Humanity]

No, if they are undertaking a military occupation, they are occupiers. I think it is pretty simple. LOL

Your retreat to simple is expected. LOL. There is no indication that the Hamas fascists have done anything to materially change the goal of their fascist charter.

While you can claim ignorance to the facts, the facts are that your heroes in Hamas have a written Charter that spells out in concise language their cult fantasy of destroying Israel. You can deny the Hamas charter as a statement of the Islamic Death Cult but why would you expect others to share your ignorance and denial?

Did you not bother to even read what Hamas are looking to change?

Clearly not, you prefer to troll the post with your stupid BS...

Rather than circumcision they should have carried out frontal lobotomy with you Einstein!

I see you're on another silly tirade.

Why don't you tell us what is new and improved with this latest Death Cult Charter... you know.... the charter that doesn't exist yet.

I see you are on another trolling mission...

Why don't you learn to read what is presented to you before you look like the racist bigot you are?

Correct, the amendment to the Charter DOESN'T exist... YET... It is a proposed amendment..

Jeeze, some people need to engage brain before trolling!

 

[Hollie]

No, if they are undertaking a military occupation, they are occupiers. I think it is pretty simple. LOL

Your retreat to simple is expected. LOL. There is no indication that the Hamas fascists have done anything to materially change the goal of their fascist charter.

While you can claim ignorance to the facts, the facts are that your heroes in Hamas have a written Charter that spells out in concise language their cult fantasy of destroying Israel. You can deny the Hamas charter as a statement of the Islamic Death Cult but why would you expect others to share your ignorance and denial?

Did you not bother to even read what Hamas are looking to change?

Clearly not, you prefer to troll the post with your stupid BS...

Rather than circumcision they should have carried out frontal lobotomy with you Einstein!

I see you're on another silly tirade.

Why don't you tell us what is new and improved with this latest Death Cult Charter... you know.... the charter that doesn't exist yet.

I see you are on another trolling mission...

Why don't you learn to read what is presented to you before you look like the racist bigot you are?

Correct, the amendment to the Charter DOESN'T exist... YET... It is a proposed amendment..

Jeeze, some people need to engage brain before trolling!

As it was you who opened the thread, I was expecting it would be you defending it.

Why don't you give us the specifics on the new and improved Death Cult Charter? How is it materially different from the current charter? Are you personally going to be in charge of monitoring Hamas and their compliance with the charter?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Where, precisely , are Hamas' "lands"?

Pretty sure they're not just talking about Gaza and the West Bank.

Amman and Amen

Jordan. Israel should bomb the King's palace if he doesn't let all the Paleonasties in.

 

[teddyearp]

I wonder Humanity, if YOU read the whole article?

The new document would accept borders of the territory captured by Israel in the 1967 war as the basis for a Palestinian state. It would not recognize Israel, however, nor would it give up future claims to all of what Hamas considers Palestinian lands.

So it is really business as usual, no concrete change nor move for an actual peaceful solution here.

Move on folks . . . . nothing to see here.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

No, if they are undertaking a military occupation, they are occupiers. I think it is pretty simple. LOL

The Israelis should be butcher and slaughter the useless Frankenstians. Yet they are the true humanitarians. Any other country would wipe the Frankenstians off the map!


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They are not humanitarians, they are wannabe multiculties. They are reverting to the people who marched sheepishly to the gas ovens.

 

[Slyhunter]

the occupiers are the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians when they are actually Jordanians or Egyptians.

 

[Humanity]

I wonder Humanity, if YOU read the whole article?

The new document would accept borders of the territory captured by Israel in the 1967 war as the basis for a Palestinian state. It would not recognize Israel, however, nor would it give up future claims to all of what Hamas considers Palestinian lands.

So it is really business as usual, no concrete change nor move for an actual peaceful solution here.

Move on folks . . . . nothing to see here.

Yes, I read it Teddy...

So, you don't see this as a possible positive move toward finding some settlement?

 

[teddyearp]

So, you don't see this as a possible positive move toward finding some settlement?

On the surface, it sounds good. But when I read further, the part that I quoted, it sounds more like a feint. Since the real problem that prevents peace by Hamas towards Israel is the fact that they do not recognize the State of Israel. Something that is not proposed in this change in their charter.

Like Abbas, who talks about peace and a two state solution to the rest of the world, but when speaking to the Palestinians, he incites violence against Israel.

 

[Lipush]

Let's hope that the outdated charter is revised properly and makes a clear definition between the state of Israel, the people of Israel and the settlers...

If this can be done then I think it is a positive move on behalf of Hamas.

“It means that we don’t fight Jews because they are Jews,” said Taher el-Nounou, a Hamas spokesman in Gaza. “Our struggle is only against those who occupied our lands.”

New Hamas charter would name ‘occupiers,’ not ‘Jews,’ as the enemy

This is what we call "Tzontzik stories for retarded children"

At the end of the day, they ask to wipe off Israel as the Jewish homeland, which is a war declaration upon all Jews worldwide.

Nuff said.

 

[Lipush]

I wonder Humanity, if YOU read the whole article?

The new document would accept borders of the territory captured by Israel in the 1967 war as the basis for a Palestinian state. It would not recognize Israel, however, nor would it give up future claims to all of what Hamas considers Palestinian lands.

So it is really business as usual, no concrete change nor move for an actual peaceful solution here.

Move on folks . . . . nothing to see here.

Yes, I read it Teddy...

So, you don't see this as a possible positive move toward finding some settlement?

Haha. So If say, they tell my aunt in the USA, who'se Jewish, "We have nothing against you, but we will spill the blood of your niece and causin and baby granddaughter in Jerusalem" and expect her to say "Oh, ok then, that's totally different".

Wow.,

 

[José]

If you put their rethoric aside (ie, declaration of war on the jewish people... angry, irrational, bloodthirsty arabs waging a war of extermination, etc, etc...) you can't help but noticing that, ironically, posters who side with the dehumanization of the arab people of Palestine, like teddyearp, Lipush, Hollie and so many others have a much better understanding of their cause than posters who are sympathetic to them, like the OP.

They have a much better understanding in the sense that they know perfectly well the conflict is not about a few inches of land west of the Green Line or a few inches of land east of the Green Line.

 

[Shusha]

Hamas does not have problems with the Jews.

Hamas has no problems with Jews as long as they are prohibited from self-determination and self-governance and self-identity and go back to being good little dhimmis.

 

[Shusha]

Let's hope that the outdated charter is revised properly and makes a clear definition between the state of Israel, the people of Israel and the settlers...

The whole point is NOT to distinguish between them. If they are Jewish -- then they are Occupiers.

They are changing the language. But not the ideology.

How so?

Is it not better to differentiate between the 'good' and the 'evil' than to lump everyone into one pot, so to speak?

I think you missed my point. Hamas is not going to differentiate between "good" Jews (dhimmis) and "evil" Jews (settlers -- meaning all Jews who live in the entire territory). Hamas has removed the language of "Jew" and replaced it with "occupier" but they still mean all Jews who live anywhere in the ME. The ideology is the same. You can spray perfume and pretty words on rotten fruit, but its still rotten fruit.

 

[Shusha]

Jews are safer in Gaza than they are in Jerusalem.

Oh please. There ARE no Jews in Gaza. So you know this how, exactly?