New development in the shooting case of the black georgia jogger

[Erinwltr]

they sincerely thought

I have a bridge....

Good for you.

Problem is, you have no more cause to assume they did not than I have to assume they did.

Stupid motherfuckers born every minute, why buck the trend

You still have no more cause than I do. I’m sorry you can’t accept this fact and have to resort to insults but, there it is.

He's usually really good on the Religion threads. Really gives them hell. But other than that, gramps is a dickhead.

 

[Erinwltr]

Been there done that. I love being comfortably retired watching you eat coal dust. Shut up ***** and shovel!

I'm comfortably retired, neither eating coal dust or anything else uncomfortable. Now go get that shit shovel, and get back to work, naive.

Interesting use of the word, naïve. The coal dust has obviously clogged your ******* brain. So what's left for you to do? Pound Sand, *****!

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Where is the proof of "racism" here? I just don't see it.

Your two white gun toting goons were breaking Georgia law when they admittedly acted as vigilantes while attempting to detain a black jogger at gun point because they did not witness the person that they murdered commit a felony if any other criminal act. Jogging is not a criminal act.

Therefore the following words were written by a full blown racist.

. two fine white men who were just acting as good citizens trying to help the police.

Taking the white killer’s side when the dead black man cannot speak to the facts of this case and not knowing or respecting the law the killers cited in their defense Is racist.

Atlanta civil rights attorney L. Chris Stewart said this case does not fit the proper description of a citizen's arrest.​

Georgia's citizen's arrest law requires that the offender must have committed a crime in the presence of another person, or that person must have "immediate knowledge" of a crime that has taken place by the perpetrator.​

Stewart said that to see a black man jogging down the street and assume he's a criminal, grab guns and chase him down is ridiculous.​

"It's insanity to even attempt to try and call that citizen's arrest," Stewart said.

Breaking Down Georgia's Citizen's Arrest Law After Ahmaud Arbery Fatal Shooting

Two men who shot and killed an unarmed black jogger in Coastal Georgia said they did so in accordance with Georgia's citizen's arrest law.

www.gpbnews.org

.... and yes you are guilty by association with racists.

 

[Jitss617]

Where is the proof of "racism" here? I just don't see it.

Your two white gun toting goons were breaking Georgia law when they admittedly acted as vigilantes while attempting to detain a black jogger at gun point because they did not witness the person that they murdered commit a felony if any other criminal act. Jogging is not a criminal act.

Therefore the following words were written by a full blown racist.

. two fine white men who were just acting as good citizens trying to help the police.

Taking the white killer’s side when the dead black man cannot speak to the facts of this case and not knowing or respecting the law the killers cited in their defense Is racist.

Atlanta civil rights attorney L. Chris Stewart said this case does not fit the proper description of a citizen's arrest.​

Georgia's citizen's arrest law requires that the offender must have committed a crime in the presence of another person, or that person must have "immediate knowledge" of a crime that has taken place by the perpetrator.​

Stewart said that to see a black man jogging down the street and assume he's a criminal, grab guns and chase him down is ridiculous.​

"It's insanity to even attempt to try and call that citizen's arrest," Stewart said.

Breaking Down Georgia's Citizen's Arrest Law After Ahmaud Arbery Fatal Shooting

Two men who shot and killed an unarmed black jogger in Coastal Georgia said they did so in accordance with Georgia's citizen's arrest law.

www.gpbnews.org

.... and yes you are guilty by association with racists.

How were they racist? And are they in jail
For being vigilantes? Ohhh noooo Lol

 

[candycorn]

Shut up ***** and get a job mining coal!

Shut up yourself, puppy, and get a job shoveling shit.

you're the master at shoveling shit..."veteran"

 

[Mac-7]

Except for one small problem. There were no burglaries reported to the actual police. No burglary reports for months up to the shooting.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8302641/Attorney-leaked-Ahmaud-Arbery-lynching-video-thought-CLEAR-friends.html

Burglary or no burglary, Arbery attacked McMichael, and was punching him in the face, with full force. McMichael was 100% justified in shooting Arbery.

Ok. Let’s review. Self Defense does not apply when you chase the guy down. It is not stand your ground when you are the aggressor. Any questions?

Does being right make libs bullet proof?

obviously not

But it does make the attackers guilty. And it should serve as a lesson for the next delusional dolt who sees himself as the vigilante for the hood.

Guilty of what?

we still do not have the full story

 

[harmonica]

It has now been revealed the black guy...Ahmaud Arbery has a criminal history....well no surprise there.
Georgia man charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery previously investigated him

Georgia man charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery previously investigated him

The white Georgia man who, along with his son, are charged with murdering unarmed black jogger Ahmaud Arbery had a past connection to the victim.

nypost.com

wrong:

Man who leaked Ahmaud Arbery video thought it would CLEAR his friends

Alan Tucker told Inside Edition Friday that he was responsible for releasing the vision, which showed his pals Gregory and Travis McMichael shooting Ahmaud Arbery in Brunswick on February 23.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Polishprince]

Except for one small problem. There were no burglaries reported to the actual police. No burglary reports for months up to the shooting.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8302641/Attorney-leaked-Ahmaud-Arbery-lynching-video-thought-CLEAR-friends.html

Burglary or no burglary, Arbery attacked McMichael, and was punching him in the face, with full force. McMichael was 100% justified in shooting Arbery.

Ok. Let’s review. Self Defense does not apply when you chase the guy down. It is not stand your ground when you are the aggressor. Any questions?

Does being right make libs bullet proof?

obviously not

But it does make the attackers guilty. And it should serve as a lesson for the next delusional dolt who sees himself as the vigilante for the hood.

Guilty of what?

we still do not have the full story

These stories have a way of changing over time, particularly as evidence is accumulated. Remember Baltimore's Fred Gay? Supposedly killed in cold blood by the Baltimore PD? Turned out to be bullshit, the 6 charged officers were ruled to be as Innocent as New Born Babes. Ditto with the Ferguson Missouri police office and Gentle Giant, or so many others.

 

[Fang]

It has now been revealed the black guy...Ahmaud Arbery has a criminal history....well no surprise there.
Georgia man charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery previously investigated him

Georgia man charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery previously investigated him

The white Georgia man who, along with his son, are charged with murdering unarmed black jogger Ahmaud Arbery had a past connection to the victim.

nypost.com

Irrelevant to this case. We already knew this weeks ago before the story went viral. In fact, your article helps the lawyer for Ahmaud's family.

It is clear now that the McMichaels were not merely trying to talk to Ahmaud. They were executing a citizens arrest and trying to detain him. In order to execute a citizens arrest, the McMichaels have had to just witnessed Ahmaud committing a crime on their property, or witnessed a crime that had just been committed. Neither of those points are true here.

The citizens arrest law was put into place for incidents like this, "“If you’re in the grocery store and a guy walks in and robs the place and turns his back to you and you tackle and hold him down not shoot him you hold him down until the police get there that’s a citizen’s arrest.” Referencing a video tape from a previous day and thinking this jogger looks like the suspect does not qualify as a citizens arrest. The McMichaels make the situation worse by grabbing their guns, jumping in their pickup and then try to detain Ahmaud block after block.

The citizens arrest will never hold up in court because the citizens arrest law was never created to allow someone to form a posse and go after a "suspect" with guns. The citizens arrest was created to allow retailers to detain someone they believe is shoplifting which is why most attorney’s would say this defense will not stand in court.

 

[LoneLaugher]

bluzman.....board coward?

I seldom give derogatory emotes but you've seen fit to do it twice now.

Is it possible that you don't like being called out?I thought you a deeper person than that.

Of course you did.

 

[Mac-7]

Except for one small problem. There were no burglaries reported to the actual police. No burglary reports for months up to the shooting.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8302641/Attorney-leaked-Ahmaud-Arbery-lynching-video-thought-CLEAR-friends.html

Burglary or no burglary, Arbery attacked McMichael, and was punching him in the face, with full force. McMichael was 100% justified in shooting Arbery.

Ok. Let’s review. Self Defense does not apply when you chase the guy down. It is not stand your ground when you are the aggressor. Any questions?

Does being right make libs bullet proof?

obviously not

But it does make the attackers guilty. And it should serve as a lesson for the next delusional dolt who sees himself as the vigilante for the hood.

Guilty of what?

we still do not have the full story

These stories have a way of changing over time, particularly as evidence is accumulated. Remember Baltimore's Fred Gay? Supposedly killed in cold blood by the Baltimore PD? Turned out to be bullshit, the 6 charged officers were ruled to be as Innocent as New Born Babes. Ditto with the Ferguson Missouri police office and Gentle Giant, or so many others.

Agreed

the left has cried wolf too many times in the past

I see blame for the death of the jogger on all sides

 

[Mac-7]

It is clear now that the McMichaels were not merely trying to talk to Ahmaud. They were executing a citizens arrest and trying to detain him.

A citizens arrest would have been illegal since they did not directly observe a crime

but they say they only wanted to question him

maybe a new video will appear or more evidence of some other kind

 

[Mac-7]

It has now been revealed the black guy...Ahmaud Arbery has a criminal history....well no surprise there.
Georgia man charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery previously investigated him

Georgia man charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery previously investigated him

The white Georgia man who, along with his son, are charged with murdering unarmed black jogger Ahmaud Arbery had a past connection to the victim.

nypost.com

Irrelevant to this case. We already knew this weeks ago before the story went viral. In fact, your article helps the lawyer for Ahmaud's family.

It is clear now that the McMichaels were not merely trying to talk to Ahmaud. They were executing a citizens arrest and trying to detain him. In order to execute a citizens arrest, the McMichaels have had to just witnessed Ahmaud committing a crime on their property, or witnessed a crime that had just been committed. Neither of those points are true here.

The citizens arrest law was put into place for incidents like this, "“If you’re in the grocery store and a guy walks in and robs the place and turns his back to you and you tackle and hold him down not shoot him you hold him down until the police get there that’s a citizen’s arrest.” Referencing a video tape from a previous day and thinking this jogger looks like the suspect does not qualify as a citizens arrest. The McMichaels make the situation worse by grabbing their guns, jumping in their pickup and then try to detain Ahmaud block after block.

The citizens arrest will never hold up in court because the citizens arrest law was never created to allow someone to form a posse and go after a "suspect" with guns. The citizens arrest was created to allow retailers to detain someone they believe is shoplifting which is why most attorney’s would say this defense will not stand in court.

This is worth repeating:

January 15 - First coronavirus case returns from China to US. At the same time, Democrats march articles of impeachment to the Senate
January 31 - Trump Declares Coronavirus A Public Health Emergency & Restricts Travel From China. Joe Biden calls Trump xenophobic.
February 9 - White House Coronavirus task force briefs governors
February 10 - Governor Cuomo and Mayor de Blasio encourage thousands to gather and celebrate the Chinese new year in New York
February 24 - Trump Administration sends a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus.
February 24 - Nancy Pelosi tours San Fran’s Chinatown and says, "We do want to say to people, come to Chinatown, here we are … come join us

 

[Fang]

It is clear now that the McMichaels were not merely trying to talk to Ahmaud. They were executing a citizens arrest and trying to detain him.

A citizens arrest would have been illegal since they did not directly observe a crime

but they say they only wanted to question him

maybe a new video will appear or more evidence of some other kind

Their lawyer already argued they were trying to execute a citizens arrest, which is why that topic is coming up. So we know the McMichaels weren't just trying to have a conversation. Even if they were just trying to question him, Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. According to the father's own statement, they cut Ahmaud off at least 3 times. (the video is the last time they blocked his path) If Ahmaud made it clear he didn't want to talk, it's over. Dial 911 and let the police handle it. Instead father and son kept pursuing.

 

[Dekster]

And so it begins.... trashing the victim to save racists.

The video shows jogger boy rushing the son and trying to wrestle the gun from him. That alone is enough to justify the shooting.

No it isn't.

That is ridiculous. If I point a gun at you are you going to TRY to defend yourself or cower in fear?

Asshat

Only hot headed idiot would immediately attack a guy with a gun. Of course you probably also think they chased him down when he was the one who ran up on the stopped truck. You need to get your bifocals or your morals focused. One less democratic voter. Boo Hoo.

 

[Mac-7]

Their lawyer already argued they were trying to execute a citizens arrest, which is why that topic is coming up.

If so they need to hire a better lawyer because that excuse wont save them

they could say they they wanted to question him and he lunged for the shotgun

in fact thats what they better say

 

[konradv]

It is clear now that the McMichaels were not merely trying to talk to Ahmaud. They were executing a citizens arrest and trying to detain him.

A citizens arrest would have been illegal since they did not directly observe a crime, but they say they only wanted to question him.

That would be Unlawful Detention. They had no authority to question him.

 

[Fang]

Their lawyer already argued they were trying to execute a citizens arrest, which is why that topic is coming up.

If so they need to hire a better lawyer because that excuse wont save them

they could say they they wanted to question him and he lunged for the shotgun

in fact thats what they better say

Unfortunately for father and son following Ahmaud street after street and reversing course when Ahmaud turns around to avoid them doesn't seem like two guys that just want to have a conversation. Why get out of your truck and brandish a shot gun? I don't see in any circumstance how that can lead to a good outcome.

 

[theHawk]

And so it begins.... trashing the victim to save racists.

Truths often emerge at critical moments....anyhow whats good for the goose is good for the gander...ya'll with the help of the fake news ....editing the video etc. have trashed two fine white men who were just acting as good citizens trying to help the police.

Ignoring the fact the black guy attacked the son and tried to wrest his weapon from him.

Also it seems very possible now that the black dude used jogging as a cover to scope out places to burglarize....which would also perhaps explain why he did not want to be questioned....which before seemed like a simple matter...stop and talk to the white guys .....but not so simple if he was a criminal...probably feared they had something on him...which also might have provoked his attack on the son...to get his weapon and then kill both the white guys with the shotgun....yes the facts are coming in and they will alter everyone's pre-conceived notions of this black guy being as innocent as a baby lamb....how striking this case is with the way the media is handling it in pretty much the same manner they handled the zimmmerman case.....they lost then...and it looks like they will lose again.

Thanks for your post. This is all starting to make more sense now.

Except for one small problem. There were no burglaries reported to the actual police. No burglary reports for months up to the shooting.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8302641/Attorney-leaked-Ahmaud-Arbery-lynching-video-thought-CLEAR-friends.html

It happened the day of. 1:08pm 9-1-1 call about a black man in a white t-shirt trespassing on private property under construction. 1:14pm second call about the same man fleeing because he knew someone saw him.

 

[Mac-7]

Unfortunately for father and son following Ahmaud street after street and reversing course when Ahmaud turns around to avoid them doesn't seem like two guys that just want to have a conversation.

Up to that point I agree with their actions if they really suspected the guy of being a criminal

they called 911 but the cops had not arrived yet

the mistake was getting out of the truck