Yes, if the left gets their way, it certainly will be.
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Pretty much. There is no other reason to stand up for rapists and murderers.
The left will always choose Barabbas.
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Statement from the Libertarian Party:
ICE is a division of the Department of Homeland Security. Much like DHS itself, it was spawned as a response to 9/11 and the Global War on Terror. ICE was created in a national security context, blending immigration enforcement with counterterrorism culture, equipment, and mindset.
What we are seeing in the United States is the rise of the warrior cop. Masked federal agents donning multicam and plate carriers, injected into civilian life with a GWOT mentality. This is no routine law enforcement. This is occupation-style policing.
Until recently, immigration enforcement was overwhelmingly a civil matter. Visa overstays, border crossings, and asylum claims were processed administratively rather than treated as battlefield threats. Under the current administration, immigration is increasingly framed as criminality itself. So when the President says they are “going after criminals,” that definition quietly expands to include visa overstays, people in green card or asylum processing, and peaceful individuals caught in bureaucratic limbo. This framing becomes the justification for the police state.
The Department of Homeland Security has now taken the position, via internal guidance, that entering homes without a judicial warrant using administrative authority is lawful. This is an assertion by fiat, not a principle recognized by the Constitution, statute, or the courts. The Fourth Amendment does not bend to agency memos.
The militarization of domestic enforcement did not happen overnight.
The surplus weapons, vehicles, and equipment from foreign wars were gradually brought home and distributed to federal agencies and police departments through long-standing programs that accelerated after 9/11. The tools of war have been normalized in civilian governance.
Now those weapons, systems, and intelligence apparatuses are being used against immigrants and citizens alike.
Soon, they will be used against you.
The technocratic police state is designed for mission creep. Powers justified for one emergency expand to the next, until they are permanent, all-seeing, and unquestioned.
The left fights in the streets. The right cheers the legitimacy of the force used against them. Together, they move in a morbid waltz toward total technocratic control.
Do not be fooled. Every justification for state violence will be depersonalized, amplified, and systematized until it is a permanent feature of governance.
Abolish ICE. Reform the broken immigration system. Do not give the police state an inch.
– @StevenNekhaila
Chairman, Libertarian National Committee
ICE is a division of the Department of Homeland Security. Much like DHS itself, it was spawned as a response to 9/11 and the Global War on Terror. ICE was created in a national security context, blending immigration enforcement with counterterrorism culture, equipment, and mindset.
What we are seeing in the United States is the rise of the warrior cop. Masked federal agents donning multicam and plate carriers, injected into civilian life with a GWOT mentality. This is no routine law enforcement. This is occupation-style policing.
Until recently, immigration enforcement was overwhelmingly a civil matter. Visa overstays, border crossings, and asylum claims were processed administratively rather than treated as battlefield threats. Under the current administration, immigration is increasingly framed as criminality itself. So when the President says they are “going after criminals,” that definition quietly expands to include visa overstays, people in green card or asylum processing, and peaceful individuals caught in bureaucratic limbo. This framing becomes the justification for the police state.
The Department of Homeland Security has now taken the position, via internal guidance, that entering homes without a judicial warrant using administrative authority is lawful. This is an assertion by fiat, not a principle recognized by the Constitution, statute, or the courts. The Fourth Amendment does not bend to agency memos.
The militarization of domestic enforcement did not happen overnight.
The surplus weapons, vehicles, and equipment from foreign wars were gradually brought home and distributed to federal agencies and police departments through long-standing programs that accelerated after 9/11. The tools of war have been normalized in civilian governance.
Now those weapons, systems, and intelligence apparatuses are being used against immigrants and citizens alike.
Soon, they will be used against you.
The technocratic police state is designed for mission creep. Powers justified for one emergency expand to the next, until they are permanent, all-seeing, and unquestioned.
The left fights in the streets. The right cheers the legitimacy of the force used against them. Together, they move in a morbid waltz toward total technocratic control.
Do not be fooled. Every justification for state violence will be depersonalized, amplified, and systematized until it is a permanent feature of governance.
Abolish ICE. Reform the broken immigration system. Do not give the police state an inch.
– @StevenNekhaila
Chairman, Libertarian National Committee
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I wonder if the rest of the crew they sent out to serve what was technically a legit warrant actually served the warrant while this stuff was going on. There should be some body cam record of whether they were able to serve the warrant unimpeded. And, if so, where was that warrant served in relation to where this other stuff happened. I haven't seen anything mentioned. With all of the squawking, one might expect that at least one of the talking heads on the idiot box would have asked that specific question.
There's a reason they send so many out for an operation like that, particularly where crowd control may be involved or is expected in the perimeter.
There's a reason they send so many out for an operation like that, particularly where crowd control may be involved or is expected in the perimeter.
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If Alex Pretti wasnt a threat, why was he resisting?
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Because he was being illegally assaulted. And they weren't giving commands.
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So now we know (as I suspected) that the CBP dipshit who disarmed the man accidentally fired the gun, causing the 2 other sissyboys who fired to mag dump the unarmed man lying on the ground.
So three agents fired shots.
EDIT: Thought was a Guardian report, now cant find it. Shelve it for now.
So three agents fired shots.
EDIT: Thought was a Guardian report, now cant find it. Shelve it for now.
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How do we know that? Link?
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Alex Pretti part of a highly organized resistance group? Paid agitators.
Patel said they've found the paper trail.
A coordinated web of encrypted chats, street alerts and tracking of ICE “Abductors” in a sophisticated database reviewed by Fox News Digital shows that agitators were already mobilized at the scene where 37-year-old Alex Pretti was killed minutes before any shots were fired.
ICE and Border Patrol agents were there to arrest an illegal immigrant criminal, and Pretti and others were there, outside a donut shop, to meet them as part of a strategic pattern of organized interference with law enforcement operations.
The complex far-left network that helped put Alex Pretti in harm’s way — including encrypted chats, street alerts
ICE Assistant Director Marcos Charles said Sunday that the violence on the streets was “not a coincidence,” considering the “chaos and mayhem” that agitators are fomenting i…nypost.com
This is such shit. Seriously. Just absolute garbage.
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From the time he was helping the lady up until he was shot was about five seconds. I doubt he was resisting. He was probably wondering what the **** was going on.
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That was my first impression when I watched that video but it was just my first impression without the facts.
How do you know that the guy who disarmed the other guy accidentally fired the weapon? Who confirmed that?
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Please stop making things up.
I never wished it on anyone (well a couple of posters here....but that's different).
I said I would accept that it happened and not be pissed at ICE.
But you can't resist because you are losing big-time.
Typical leftist.
Moron.
You think all these actions are just a bunch of wonks 'gee let's go to the protests today'?
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I never said there was. Can you please stop making things up.
But if you are going to be close by, you have to know that you are increasing risks.
That's not a matter of statute. It's a matter of the realities of the situation.
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You are braindead.
This isn't a 2nd amendment debate.
It's simply saying that if you are close to an ICE (or any other law enforcment operation), you'd best beware of the fact that your gun could work against you if you were seen as being an adversary.
That's not presuming that ICE is doing everything perfectly. So you can spare me your leftist white-room bs
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You mean like Biden/Harris did? Telling the BP and ICE to stand down and allow ten to twenty million illegals in without any due process?
Nope.
If you assholes didn’t allow so many illegals in, then none of this would be necessary. But you did, and here we are. Don’t complain about how others are cleaning up your mess.
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Pretti brought a weapon that had been recalled and banned by many law enforcement agencies for self-discharging.
The gun he choose and that he concealed and brought it into a situation where he was going hands on with police cost him his life.
When a Half-Millimeter Can Kill: Why the P320 Fires Without Your Finger - Workman Firearms
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