New: CBP Shoots and Kills Man in MN

From Andrew Branca.

I haven't watched it yet.


I’ve just been sent a motion stabilized video of the ICE shoot that has much more clarity than the videos I’ve previously reviewed.
The FIRST time I’ll be taking a detailed look at this video is LIVE during this show!
I’ll also go over many of the good—and bad!—legal takes on this shooting that have been made since my analysis of yesterday!
And I’ll share a rare The Branca Show oops, and how we’re addressing it!
Episode #1174.




So one man "Keith Ellison" has an opinion and that equals what here exactly?

Arguing what he did does not go against what is being said here: "The 37-year-old ICU nurse held a valid permit to carry and had no criminal record" Ellison would be upholding the legal view, even if he has caveats about things..

This is a disingenuous piece by the DC that is primed to set off the low informed, low education group like you

Ellison’s legal stance faced scrutiny Saturday when Border Patrol agents fatally shot Alex Pretti during an immigration enforcement operation in Minneapolis. The 37-year-old ICU nurse held a valid permit to carry and had no criminal record, Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara said.
 
You mean like Biden/Harris did? Telling the BP and ICE to stand down and allow ten to twenty million illegals in without any due process?

Nope.

If you assholes didn’t allow so many illegals in, then none of this would be necessary. But you did, and here we are. Don’t complain about how others are cleaning up your mess.
I am not interested in your low IQ, pathetic whataboutism.

Like, not even a little.
 
If Alex Pretti wasnt a threat, why was he resisting?


Looked like he was reacting to the effects of the pepper spray that he got hit with when he was walking toward the woman that the same guy who sprayed him had shoved around.

Are his body motions in reaction to the spray what you're calling resisting?

Or are you referring to the fact that he got between the guy with the pepper spray and the woman he was shoving around?

Or is there something else that he did that, speaking only for myself, I didn't see in the video?

Technically, that woman looks like the primary instigator in the whole recorded incident as I watched the video. Well...placing aside the fact that it was the federal government that actually trafficked all of these illegals into the country in the first place, but that's likely better invoked later in the discussion as it progresses.
 
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Please stop making things up.

I never wished it on anyone (well a couple of posters here....but that's different).

I said I would accept that it happened and not be pissed at ICE.

But you can't resist because you are losing big-time.

Typical leftist.

Moron.
Not even a leftest. Just a normal person.
You Deplorables on the other hand. Never met a more hateful, ill-informed, and just plain dumb set of people. Not even going to get into the misogynistic and racist part of your make up.

He was allowed to be pissed at ICE. He was allowed to carry a firearm. He posed no threat anybody.

What makes people like you so dangerous, is that you can see all this for yourself. It is there as plain as day on all the video recordings. Yet, you find excuse after excuse for ICE's actions.

You are indeed, Deplorable and a disgusting human being.
 
I am not interested in your low IQ, pathetic whataboutism.

Like, not even a little.
Of course you’re not “interested”, because the logic of it shows how dumb and hypocritical your side is.

Just keep the head buried in the sand.
 
Pretti brought a weapon that had been recalled and banned by many law enforcement agencies for self-discharging.

The gun he choose and that he concealed and brought it into a situation where he was going hands on with police cost him his life.



There's a lot of untrained/inexperienced people buying side arms these days just out of fear. Or, unfortunately, and even more dangerous, merely to make some kind of statement or to ''stand for something'' without thinking things through all the way.

I imagine that a great many, if not the majority of them, know much of anything about the weapons themselves.

While the man certainly had a right to carry, that likely wasn't the place for it. There's a time when liberties come second to survival.
 
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You are braindead.

This isn't a 2nd amendment debate.

It's simply saying that if you are close to an ICE (or any other law enforcment operation), you'd best beware of the fact that your gun could work against you if you were seen as being an adversary.

That's not presuming that ICE is doing everything perfectly. So you can spare me your leftist white-room b
Oh, I agree with the bit about the gun working against you - if you pulled it out and aimed it at them, sure. But that didn't happen did it? Or are you to braindead to see that? You do realise the ONLY person who handled his firearm was the ICE agent. Please tell me you saw that?
 
I wonder if the rest of the crew they sent out to serve what was technically a legit warrant actually served the warrant while this stuff was going on. There should be some body cam record of whether they were able to serve the warrant unimpeded. And, if so, where was that warrant served in relation to where this other stuff happened. I haven't seen anything mentioned. With all of the squawking, one might expect that at least one of the talking heads on the idiot box would have asked that specific question.

There's a reason they send so many out for an operation like that, particularly where crown control may be involved in the perimeter.
To my <limited> understanding there are judicial, and administrative warrants Natty....~S~
 
Not even a leftest. Just a normal person.
Liar.
You Deplorables on the other hand.
Thanks Saul. Coming from you, I feel like I've accomplished something.
Never met a more hateful, ill-informed, and just plain dumb set of people.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.....

Dumb.......

312 to 226. The dummies won.

Not even going to get into the misogynistic and racist part of your make up.
Thank heavens your women look like purple topped tanks.

He was allowed to be pissed at ICE.
Yep. You are also allowed to drive on a wet road at 70 MPH.

He was allowed to carry a firearm.
Correct. Never said different. You are also allowed a car that can go faster than 70 mph.

He posed no threat anybody.
I'm sure he checked in with ICE before he got involved.

They didn't know that.

I am not defending them. I'm telling you he made some poor judgement calls.
What makes people like you so dangerous, is that you can see all this for yourself.
Watching a video makes us dangerous.

Who knew?
It is there as plain as day on all the video recordings.
Sure it is.
Yet, you find excuse after excuse for ICE's actions.
I'm excusing ICE. Where?

What I am doing is calling this guy a moron for what he did.

I don't recall ever saying ICE was justified.

You are indeed, Deplorable and a disgusting human being.
Oh, I'm crushed. An internet homo calls me names and I just feel so bad.

A homo that can't read or comprehend what's been said and, instead, uses his confirmational bias as a basis for his comments. To bad you can't be a little more clever.
 
Im not for communism. I dont know anyone who is. I am for regulated capitalism. So is the democratic party. When you have to make up positions for someone it is because you have lost the argument. These same idiots telling you I am a communist are telling you that Alex was assualting officers with a gun. This guy:

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From a safe distance, absolutely video them. That does not include:

1. Beating on them.
2. Throwing ice bottles at them
3. Biting off their fingers
4. Blowing whistles in their faces
5. Running over them with Hondas

Got it?

If you think this is normal, have a buddy of yours film you walking up to ANY POLICE OFFICER YOU CHOOSE and do ANY OF THESE things and let us see how it turns out for you.
I believe in part that law enforcement over some decades is taking some of the heat from how some of the police departments across the nation abused citizens. ICE is still a law enforcement entity. And some people have glee watching what is happening. I believe in the rights of citizens. I also believe that we need some type of law enforcement when we go too far. When the power though destroys you or disregards the laws within their own departments, it causes seething that lasts years, decades, lifetimes and to the grave. Everything is corrupted even if records are locked and/or expunged. They are not. The corrupted get access. And most police, corrections, security abuse that. If employees within screw with other employees within it makes it tedious and they end up getting away with it while perhaps some get a financial payoff. We are still heading for a cliff that where people fall will be different.
 
These MAGA dipshits just keep digging their hole.

Everyone outside of their most dedicated cult members has abandoned them, on this one.
 
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Oh look -- Walz caves.



I would not believe Governor Walz to be sincere and to which they should say, "You don't need to worry about working with us because I don't; expect you will be governor much longer, and hiring a good defense attorney should be your foremost concern."
 
To my <limited> understanding there are judicial, and administrative warrants Natty....~S~

What's gawn awn, Sparky? Long time, no see. And, yeah, I know. I was just wondering whether or not the warrant was actually served unimpeded is all. Or if the recorded part of the incident occured when they first pulled up and/or if the recorded part of the incident occured well into the perimeter of where the warrant was or was not served/attempted to be served.

Nothing I'm particularly interested in debating about, but mainly just curiosity.
 
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Oh, I agree with the bit about the gun working against you - if you pulled it out and aimed it at them, sure
Then you don't agree. Just having it raises the risk. You are justified in wearing it, but you are taking a chance.

Just like when you try to flee in a car and an agent is in front of you.

She could be right, but she's no less dead.
But that didn't happen did it?
I didn't see it happen. But, as I said, that's not germane to the argument I am making. The one you don't seem to understand.
Or are you to braindead to see that?
I don't have to see anything. It does not matter to me.

I will let investigators and lawyers for the parents work this one out.

You do realise the ONLY person who handled his firearm was the ICE agent. Please tell me you saw that?
I have to tell you anything.

You are arguing something different and I am not going to join in.

You keep making stuff up to argue against. Who wants to encourage that?
 
What's gawn awn, Sparky? Long time, no see. And, yeah, I know. I was just wondering whether or not the warrant was actually served unimpeded is all. Or if the incident occured when they first pulled up or if the incident occured well in the perimeter of where the warrant was served/attempted to be served.
Well, they had 6-8 soft little sissies running in the opposite direction and tripping over themselves to beat on a woman, so either they got it done or were having no problem getting it done.
 
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