- Nov 14, 2011
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First of all, Biden did not commit extortion. Extortion is applying force to get something in return. Biden got nothing in return and was merely enforcing U.S. policy. i.e., doing his job. Even Trump once asked, "Why would you give money to a country that you think is corrupt?"Biden used extortion threatening on behalf of the US not to guarantee a loan. Thugs do that. Biden did that as Vice President yet somehow that is not a crime with you people.Asking a foreign national for something of value for your political campaign is a crime. That what Trump and Giuliani did. Biden never did that.So what it's a crime.I have no doubt Trump pressured coaxed and leveraged Ukraine to get info on Biden. So fucking what!! That’s what politicians do. When Biden is out their bragging how he got the Ukraine special prosecutor fired, you are goddamn right that as a political opponent and sitting President, I am going to pressure, coax, lobby a foreign Government to get information.Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiraciesNever-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.www.cnn.com
A crime for Trump, not for Biden. Same / similar act. Spying on Private citizens is criminal as well
Secondly, Biden has nothing to do with Trump. Trump broke the law. Trump solicited a foreign national to look for dirt on a political rival. That's a crime. Lock him up!