Never Trump Movement is a Surprisingly Bipartisan Movement

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NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump tangled with the dean of a conservative Wisconsin talk radio on Monday, enduring a harsh grilling as he prepared to campaign in the state ahead of its upcoming primary.

Milwaukee-based radio show host Charlie Sykes, an influential voice for local Republicans, pressed Trump on a range of issues, including whether he should apologize to Ted Cruz's wife, Heidi, whom he mocked on Twitter last week. Trump indicated that he was simply retweeting a message from a supporter who had posted an unflattering photo of Heidi Cruz next to a glamorous shot of Trump's model wife, Melania.

"Is your standard that if a supporter does something despicable, that it's OK for you, a candidate for president of the United States, to behave that same way?" Sykes asked. "I mean, I expect that from a 12 year-old bully on the playground, not somebody who wants the office held by Abraham Lincoln."

Sykes said that he hoped Trump realized that "here in Wisconsin we value things like civility, decency and actual conservative principles" and asked him to declare that wives would be off limit in the discourse ahead of the April 5 primary. Trump said he would be in favor of that but said that he would not apologize until Cruz first said he was sorry for the ad his supporters ran in Utah featuring a photo of a partially clad Melania Trump that had originally appeared in GQ magazine.

Cruz has said he knew nothing about the ad, which was published by a Super PAC that backed him. That did not satisfy Trump.

"I didn't start, he started it. If he didn't start it, it never would have happened," said Trump Monday morning. He added that while he does "believe in apologizing" he wouldn't do so until Cruz did first.

"My views are not playground views," Trump said.

The Wisconsin primary is shaping up to be a key moment in the Republican nomination, as a solid Cruz win would narrow Trump's path to the nomination and increase the likelihood of a contested convention this summer. Cruz — who has recently picked up a wave of Republican establishment support — has been criss-crossing the state and has begun airing $500,000 in ads.

That Trump appeared with Sykes at all was somewhat surprising.

Sykes, who has close ties to Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, endorsed Cruz last week and warmly hosted the Texas Senator on his show. Sykes also has backed the #NeverTrump movement, which calls for Republicans to support anyone but the celebrity businessman, a revelation that caught Trump off guard near the end of the 17-minute interview.

Trump admitted he — and his campaign — did not know of Skyes' opposition, but said he assumed the radio host is "an intelligent guy" who would "give me credit where credit is due." Sykes said he would, but then asked one last time for an apology. Trump declined.

Trump faced similar skepticism during two more interviews with conservative state radio hosts later in the day. But Cruz, speaking at a Wisconsin rally hours later, praised Sykes for his "conservative leadership" and claimed that "the American people are sick" of candidates making personal attacks.

"Who cares?" Cruz asked. "Who cares what Donald is tweeting late at night? We need real solutions for the real problems in this country."

http://www.bustle.com/articles/1540...-slogan-is-a-surprisingly-bipartisan-movement

Donald Trump has tangled with the dean of a conservative Wisconsin talk radio on Monday, enduring a harsh grilling as he prepared to campaign in the state ahead of its upcoming primary

The voters have spoken: Never Trump

Some people are saying Wisconsin was a turning point for Donald Trump.

Maybe the people of this mid-western state have the common sense that people in other states lack.

Or maybe all the accumulated gaffes, insults against women, comments about genitalia (his own and others') has finally caught up with him.

In Wisconsin, conservative talk show hosts came after Trump with long knives, like the Senators surrounding Caesar on the Ides of March.

In an interview on the Bloomberg's The Circus, Charlie Sykes made it clear that "Never Trump" means just that, he will NEVER, under any circumstances, vote for Donald Trump, even if he gets the Republican nomination.

And I strongly stand with Mr. Sykes. I will NEVER vote for Donald Trump. I will not vote for Bernie Sanders either, but if the choice is between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, I may, for the sake of our nation, vote Democratic for the first, and almost certainly last time in my life. And I will hate doing it, but I feel I MUST.

Donald Trump, and let me make this CLEAR, must NEVER be President of this nation, a nation that has access to thousands of nuclear weapons and the most powerful military in the world. Trump is a dangerous lunatic and must NEVER have access to that kind of power. If Trump is elected, I think there is a high probability that he would be deposed in a military coup by generals and admirals concerned for national security. They would do their best to keep it a secret, but the damage would be done. Our democracy would NEVER recover.

And if the military doesn't depose Trump, there is no telling what he might do with the combined power of the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the Marines, the IRS, the CIA, the FBI, the NSA and all the other extremely powerful agencies at the President's command. If you think things have been anarchic under Obama, Trump would be much, much worse.

If we, the American people, give a madman and a lunatic this kind of power, we will have lost the trust of the entire world and they will rightly think we are lunatics as well. We will see Americans become the most scorned people on Earth, and rightly so.

THIS MUST NOT HAPPEN.

NEVER Trump means NEVER Trump.

Republicans, we must throw all our support behind Ted Cruz, the only candidate at this point who can stop Donald Trump.

John Kasich should drop out and stop diverting anti-Trump voters away from Cruz.

If you don't like Cruz, learn to live with him. He is not that likable a person, but he is a conservative, and he is a NORMAL PERSON.
 
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Real conservatives despise Trump. Real liberals despise Trump. Real Americans despise Trump.
 
I first learned about "Never Trump" from watching 12-year-old boy on Bloomberg's The Circus, who was outside a Trump rally repeating "NEVER TRUMP! NEVER TRUMP!" with such hatred I was upset that such a young boy hated so much. But now, I've come to understand, the boy's hatred of Trump is justified, and even necessary.

And I remember I was that age when I first got involved in politics, through my love of Ronald Reagan. I just wish that boy had the same experience I did, of love for a man rather than hate.
 
Yea, if Trump is elected he might just start a war in a country like Libya without consulting Congress, or maybe use killer drones to go after his enemies without giving them due process of law, or worse, he could use the IRS to go after them.

The man must be stopped.
 
We have lost with two moderates. We can win with a conservative, a REAL conservative, Ted Cruz.

Donald Trump is not a conservative. He is closer to being a liberal, but really, he doesn't have a doggone clue what he is. He just says what he thinks you want to hear. He says he's against immigration because he thinks that's what you want to hear. He's not. He employs immigrants at his hotels and casinos. Trump Tower was built by illegal Polish workers:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/donald-says-controversy-over-his-tower-was-trumped-n397821

Trump says he's against trade with China because he thinks you're against trade with China. Trump isn't against trade with China. He sells Chinese-made goods here in the United States:

Trump Sells Chinese Goods While Accusing China of Stealing US Jobs

Trump is a con-man and a fraud. Everything he says he's against he is lying about it, he is really for it. He's made a ton of money off illegal immigrants and cheap Chinese goods.
 
Yea, if Trump is elected he might just start a war in a country like Libya without consulting Congress, or maybe use killer drones to go after his enemies without giving them due process of law, or worse, he could use the IRS to go after them.

The man must be stopped.
Make jokes if you think it's funny. Nobody will be laughing when the ICBMs are coming in over the North Pole.
 
Trump is a danger to the entire world. He is like Lex Luthor in that Superman TV show. Some kid had a gift of seeing the future, and saw Lex Luther nuking the world. Donald Trump could make that comic book scenario a reality. He is a crazy billionaire with a God complex.
 
Trump is a danger to the entire world. He is like Lex Luthor in that Superman TV show. Some kid had a gift of seeing the future, and saw Lex Luther nuking the world. Donald Trump could make that comic book scenario a reality. He is a crazy billionaire with a God complex.
Grow up.
 
Trump is a danger to the entire world. He is like Lex Luthor in that Superman TV show. Some kid had a gift of seeing the future, and saw Lex Luther nuking the world. Donald Trump could make that comic book scenario a reality. He is a crazy billionaire with a God complex.
Grow up.
That's hilarious coming from a Donald Trump supporter.

Are you going to punch me in the mouth?
 
Trump is a danger to the entire world. He is like Lex Luthor in that Superman TV show. Some kid had a gift of seeing the future, and saw Lex Luther nuking the world. Donald Trump could make that comic book scenario a reality. He is a crazy billionaire with a God complex.
Grow up.
That's hilarious coming from a Donald Trump supporter.

Are you going to punch me in the mouth?
Like I said, grow up. Getting more child like isn't how it's done.
 
Trump is a danger to the entire world. He is like Lex Luthor in that Superman TV show. Some kid had a gift of seeing the future, and saw Lex Luther nuking the world. Donald Trump could make that comic book scenario a reality. He is a crazy billionaire with a God complex.
Grow up.
That's hilarious coming from a Donald Trump supporter.

Are you going to punch me in the mouth?
Like I said, grow up. Getting more child like isn't how it's done.
OK, what do you think we should do about this candidate who actually tells his followers to commit violent acts against other people, and actually had a campaign manager commit a violent act against another person, and said that he would pay for the legal defense of a follower who committed a violent act?

What's your plan?

And do you really think I'm exaggerating when I say I fear Donald Trump's finger on the nuclear trigger?

Tell me honestly, what is your reaction to that scenario?

Lex Luther is a very recognizable comic book character who is very similar to Donald Trump in that he is a billionaire and has a God complex. The comparison is extremely apt and it is not immature for me to point it out.
 
Iceweasel is poster child for "grow up." Bleipriester is not far behind. Trump can't win at all. Cruz's betting percentage may be 1 in 5. I am tired of your ilk. You refuse to face facts.
 
The American people do not want libertarianism. That part they have right.
 
Real conservatives despise Trump. Real liberals despise Trump. Real Americans despise Trump.
Yeah Americans want an establishment OWNED candidate because they have a long history of doing good....
:eek::eek::eek::cool::cool::cool:o_Oo_Oo_O
I grow weary of this distinction between "establishment" and "anti-establishment."

Trump has been giving money to politicians all his life and is as responsible as anyone for the corruption of the system. He is not an "outsider" anymore than anyone else with billions of dollars can be.

Even Bernie has been a politician all his life, so no one is an "outsider" in this election.

Ted Cruz is a CONSERVATIVE, like Ronald Reagan. That's what we're looking for. The last time we ran a conservative in 1980 and 1984 we won both times. When GHWB ran in 1988 people thought he was a conservative and he won. When he proved he wasn't after raising taxes he lost in 1992. Dole the moderate lost in 1996. People thought GWB was a conservative in 2000 and 2004 so he won. McCain the moderate lost in 2008 and Romney the moderate lost in 2012.

For Republicans, conservatives WIN and moderates LOSE. Consistent pattern for 36 years.[/QUOTE]
 
ALL . . . are establishment.

Cruz is a real conservative. Kasich is conservative. Trump is leftist progressive.
 
Trump is a danger to the entire world. He is like Lex Luthor in that Superman TV show. Some kid had a gift of seeing the future, and saw Lex Luther nuking the world. Donald Trump could make that comic book scenario a reality. He is a crazy billionaire with a God complex.
Grow up.
That's hilarious coming from a Donald Trump supporter.

Are you going to punch me in the mouth?
Like I said, grow up. Getting more child like isn't how it's done.
OK, what do you think we should do about this candidate who actually tells his followers to commit violent acts against other people, and actually had a campaign manager commit a violent act against another person, and said that he would pay for the legal defense of a follower who committed a violent act?

What's your plan?

And do you really think I'm exaggerating when I say I fear Donald Trump's finger on the nuclear trigger?

Tell me honestly, what is your reaction to that scenario?

Lex Luther is a very recognizable comic book character who is very similar to Donald Trump in that he is a billionaire and has a God complex. The comparison is extremely apt and it is not immature for me to point it out.
Don't try that dance with me. It wasn't just "another person". The asshole went to the rally specifically to disrupt the event. I don't recall Trump telling people to beat them up, the worse I heard was he's pay the legal fees. I'm fine with it. Shutting down free speech is a far worse violation to me.

I have no idea what you fear or why. You go ahead and get all worked up over the nuclear button and I'll focus on the shitty economy, the rich getting richer and the US taking it in the shorts, over and over again.

obama has a far worse "god complex" and none of the other candidates gets the libs and establishment Republicans so riled up.
 
And the nonsense continues.

Concentrate on and fix the sky high Trump negatives.
 

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