Never mind transitional species.

[frigidweirdo]

Any explanation of evolution just gets more fantastical and takes one further down the rabbit hole.

Do you understand anything about evolution and how it happens?

Anything at all?

 

[dblack]

Do you understand anything about evolution and how it happens?

Anything at all?

It just makes no sense. Why would God want species to go extinct???

 

[Woodznutz]

Yeah, if we had full data of all animals throughout the last 400 million years, it might be clear. But it's not. We have random evidence that makes up such a tiny percentage.

My point.

 

[frigidweirdo]

My point.

You spent all this time to say "we don't know everything"?

Doesn't really feel like it.

 

[hadit]

Why? He's correct.

He could have said, "Grass is green" and it would have been just as relevant.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The question is simple. Where are the fossils of creatures whose evolutionary changes weren't 'selected'? Where are the goofy looking fossils?

They are there. Haven't you seen them?

Evolution of the horse - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ReinyDays]

You're making my case. "Quantum leaps" are huge changes sans the anticipated intermediate changes needed for such changes. What you've described, rightly, is hugely complex and the 'evolution' of such defies the laws of probability.

You're mistaken ... a quantum is the smallest of steps ... so small that there are no steps smaller ...

In this case, we're exchanging base pairs, a cytosine for a guanine so we code for valine instead of leucine ...

I know I know I know ... you spend too much time watching TV ... that's why you're so misinformed ... stay ignorant my friend, you'll live out your life in happiness ... you don't want to know how proteins are made ... just keep living in your little fantasy world where everyone agrees with you ... the rest of us are having a good laugh ...

 

[Woodznutz]

You're mistaken ... a quantum is the smallest of steps ... so small that there are no steps smaller ...

The term quantum leap has two primary meanings:

1. In physics, it refers to the abrupt transition of an electron from one energy level to another within an atom, without passing through intermediate states.
2. In a broader context, it signifies a dramatic advance or significant change, especially in knowledge or methods, such as a major development in a country's progress.

Quantum leap - (Principles of Physics II) - Vocab, Definition, Explanations | Fiveable

A quantum leap refers to the abrupt transition of an electron from one energy level to another within an atom, as described by quantum mechanics. This change occurs without the electron passing through the intermediate energy states, leading to a distinct jump in its position and energy. This...

library.fiveable.me

Giant leaps, not baby steps. The operative word; leap

You're welcome.

 

[Woodznutz]

Do you understand anything about evolution and how it happens?

Anything at all?

It's not possible to understand evolution. Papers written by your experts are littered with suppositions. Read them for yourself.

 

[ReinyDays]

The term quantum leap has two primary meanings:

1. In physics, it refers to the abrupt transition of an electron from one energy level to another within an atom, without passing through intermediate states.
2. In a broader context, it signifies a dramatic advance or significant change, especially in knowledge or methods, such as a major development in a country's progress.

Quantum leap - (Principles of Physics II) - Vocab, Definition, Explanations | Fiveable

A quantum leap refers to the abrupt transition of an electron from one energy level to another within an atom, as described by quantum mechanics. This change occurs without the electron passing through the intermediate energy states, leading to a distinct jump in its position and energy. This...

library.fiveable.me

Giant leaps, not baby steps. The operative word; leap

You're welcome.

In the context of electrons ... we use the first definition ... that was my claim, evolution happens electron by electron, atom by atom ...

You must be arguing with an ignorant strawman ...

 

[Woodznutz]

In the context of electrons ... we use the first definition ... that was my claim, evolution happens electron by electron, atom by atom ...

You must be arguing with an ignorant strawman ...

My term is "quantum leap" as it is commonly understood.

It is the electron by electron, atom by atom, change that is missing in the published information about evolution: my point.

All that are given to us numbskulls are quantum leaps.

 

[ReinyDays]

My term is "quantum leap" as it is commonly understood.

It is the electron by electron, atom by atom, change that is missing in the published information about evolution: my point.

All that are given to us numbskulls are quantum leaps.

Plenty of this information in the scientific literature ... an example ... really just pick up any upper division Biochemistry textbook at your local university if they have a biochemistry department ...

Maybe stop getting your information from the National Enquirer ... you seem more curious than that ... if you don't know how proteins are manufactured, then you can't possibly understand how small changes can make for small improvements ... the key here is enzymes, and how they act as catalysts ... but then, you'll need to know what a catalyst is ...

As long as you only demonstrate a middle school education, you'll never understand biology ... you're trying, and it just won't work ... you're just plugging your ears screaming "nah nah nah I can't hear you" ... middle school girl like ...

 

[Oddball]

Where are the fossils of creatures that didn't make the cut?

How is it that mutants managed to reproduce when their mothers usually kill them at birth?

 

[ReinyDays]

How is it that mutants managed to reproduce when their mothers usually kill them at birth?

"Now I understand why tigers eat their young" -- Hobbs ...

 

[MisterBeale]

YOU see any live tyrannosaurs around?

Yes.

Tyrannosaurs ARE a transitional species.



". . . Modern genetic research further reinforces the connection between birds and dinosaurs. Comparative studies of the genomes of birds and reptiles reveal many similarities, particularly with theropod dinosaurs. These genetic similarities include not only the structure of DNA but also the expression of certain genes that govern development and morphology.

The connection between chickens and dinosaurs is a compelling example of how modern science can unveil the deep evolutionary history of even the most commonplace animals. Chickens, like all birds, are the living descendants of theropod dinosaurs, carrying forward a legacy that stretches back millions of years. This lineage is evidenced by shared physical traits, the presence of feathers in both groups, cladistic classification, transitional fossils, and genetic similarities. As such, the next time you see a chicken, remember that you are looking at a modern-day dinosaur, a remarkable testament to the enduring legacy of these ancient creatures."

How Chickens Are Related to Dinosaurs

The Dinosaur Connection: How Chickens Are Related to Dinosaurs

www.thearchaeologist.org

 

[dblack]

 

[Woodznutz]

Plenty of this information in the scientific literature ... an example ... really just pick up any upper division Biochemistry textbook at your local university if they have a biochemistry department ...

Maybe stop getting your information from the National Enquirer ... you seem more curious than that ... if you don't know how proteins are manufactured, then you can't possibly understand how small changes can make for small improvements ... the key here is enzymes, and how they act as catalysts ... but then, you'll need to know what a catalyst is ...

As long as you only demonstrate a middle school education, you'll never understand biology ... you're trying, and it just won't work ... you're just plugging your ears screaming "nah nah nah I can't hear you" ... middle school girl like ...

I know how to read. Submit a paper and I'll highlight the suppositions that hold the whole thing together. Recall that it only takes one bad link for a chain to break.

 

[ReinyDays]

I know how to read. Submit a paper and I'll highlight the suppositions that hold the whole thing together. Recall that it only takes one bad link for a chain to break.

I submit the paper in my comment you've quoted here ... this is peer-reviewed so the "links" have been checked ... whether they're "bad" or not is a matter of philosophy ...

If you're speaking about "chains of logic" ... then please tell us which logical "chain link" is bad? ... other than not starting with "In the beginning, God created Heaven and Earth" ...

 

[frigidweirdo]

It's not possible to understand evolution. Papers written by your experts are littered with suppositions. Read them for yourself.

Many things are guesses. Doesn't mean it doesn't increase our understanding.

Based on your view we shouldn't have weather forecasting because often it's wrong. But it still happens because it still benefits us.

 

[Woodznutz]

Many things are guesses. Doesn't mean it doesn't increase our understanding.

Based on your view we shouldn't have weather forecasting because often it's wrong. But it still happens because it still benefits us.

Our weather forecasters are good at forecasting temps but little else. I actually feel sorry for them.