Negotiations Have Ended

leftwinger said:
//Iran wont agree to common sense. They are holding out with no leverage//

Vice President JD Vance held a press conference in Islamabad on Saturday evening, confirming that the United States and Iran have failed to reach a final agreement following intense, direct negotiations.
After more than 21 hours of talks mediated in Pakistan, the highest-level direct U.S.-Iran negotiations since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Vance stated unequivocally that the Iranian regime refused to accept America’s core demands and red lines.

“We’ve been at it now for 21 hours, and we’ve had a number of substantive discussions with the Iranians. That’s the good news,” Vance said. “The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement. And I think that’s bad news for Iran much more than it’s bad news for the United States of America.”

www.thegatewaypundit.com

BREAKING: VP JD Vance Announces No Deal Reached with Iran After Marathon 21-Hour Negotiations, 'Bad News for Iran Much More Than for the U.S.' (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cassandra MacDonald

Vice President JD Vance held a press conference in Islamabad on Saturday evening, confirming that the United States and Iran have failed to reach a final agreement following intense, direct negotiations.
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Good. You can't negotiate with vermin. Arm the Iranian people with drones and anything else they want. Continue the targeting with our air superiority. I also think the DOW needs to focus on getting internet back up in Iran. It's tough to locate and knockout the GPS jammers Iran is using to disable Starlink.
 
candycorn said:
So what happens now? Ground troops?

For the 3rd time in 40 years (all under GOP presidents) we're going to go to war in the middle east. How'd the first 2 turn out?
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Although I believe it was a mistake to take down Sadam Husaine, Iraq seems to be well managed and peaceful towards it's neighbors. They even respected the request to guard their border with Iran during this time period.

Afghanistan would have been much better, but London interfered and put more ruthless people back in power. I don't think they are a threat, although Pakistan has been having to deal with a buildup of terrorists along it's border in recent years.

Iran is a different story altogether. Probably the root of all the evil in the middle east. Follow the money, and if it leads to a regime that hangs it's political opponents in public, then you know you are getting close to uncovering evil.

They have a well educated population who are being blatantly slaughtered and oppressed despite their best efforts to stand up against the communist controlled regime (IRGC). Let us pray together that the efforts to support the good people of Iran will eventually work and that those men remaining who wish for freedom will be given the chance to take a stand.
 
candycorn said:
So what happens now? Ground troops?

For the 3rd time in 40 years (all under GOP presidents) we're going to go to war in the middle east. How'd the first 2 turn out?
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Although I believe it was a mistake to take down Sadam Husaine, Iraq seems to be well managed and peaceful towards it's neighbors. They even respected the request to guard their border with Iran during this time period.

Afghanistan would have been much better, but London interfered and put more ruthless people back in power. I don't think they are a threat, although Pakistan has been having to deal with a buildup of terrorists along it's border in recent years.

Iran is a different story altogether. Probably the root of all the evil in the middle east. Follow the money, and if it leads to a regime that hangs it's political opponents in public, then you know you are getting close to uncovering evil.

They have a well educated population who are being blatantly slaughtered and oppressed despite their best efforts to stand up against the communist controlled regime (IRGC). Let us pray together that the efforts to support the good people of Iran will eventually work and that those men remaining who wish for freedom will be given the chance to take a stand.
 
Samofvt said:
Although I believe it was a mistake to take down Sadam Husaine, Iraq seems to be well managed and peaceful towards it's neighbors. They even respected the request to guard their border with Iran during this time period.

Afghanistan would have been much better, but London interfered and put more ruthless people back in power. I don't think they are a threat, although Pakistan has been having to deal with a buildup of terrorists along it's border in recent years.

Iran is a different story altogether. Probably the root of all the evil in the middle east. Follow the money, and if it leads to a regime that hangs it's political opponents in public, then you know you are getting close to uncovering evil.

They have a well educated population who are being blatantly slaughtered and oppressed despite their best efforts to stand up against the communist controlled regime (IRGC). Let us pray together that the efforts to support the good people of Iran will eventually work and that those men remaining who wish for freedom will be given the chance to take a stand.
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And gas in the US is up over $4 a gallon after "winning". Could you imagine how much higher it would have been if we lost or (better idea) didn't fight at all?
 
Samofvt said:
Although I believe it was a mistake to take down Sadam Husaine, Iraq seems to be well managed and peaceful towards it's neighbors. They even respected the request to guard their border with Iran during this time period.

Afghanistan would have been much better, but London interfered and put more ruthless people back in power. I don't think they are a threat, although Pakistan has been having to deal with a buildup of terrorists along it's border in recent years.

Iran is a different story altogether. Probably the root of all the evil in the middle east. Follow the money, and if it leads to a regime that hangs it's political opponents in public, then you know you are getting close to uncovering evil.

They have a well educated population who are being blatantly slaughtered and oppressed despite their best efforts to stand up against the communist controlled regime (IRGC). Let us pray together that the efforts to support the good people of Iran will eventually work and that those men remaining who wish for freedom will be given the chance to take a stand.
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And gas in the US is up over $4 a gallon after "winning". Could you imagine how much higher it would have been if we lost or (better idea) didn't fight at all?
 
Samofvt said:
Although I believe it was a mistake to take down Sadam Husaine, Iraq seems to be well managed and peaceful towards it's neighbors. They even respected the request to guard their border with Iran during this time period.

Afghanistan would have been much better, but London interfered and put more ruthless people back in power. I don't think they are a threat, although Pakistan has been having to deal with a buildup of terrorists along it's border in recent years.

Iran is a different story altogether. Probably the root of all the evil in the middle east. Follow the money, and if it leads to a regime that hangs it's political opponents in public, then you know you are getting close to uncovering evil.

They have a well educated population who are being blatantly slaughtered and oppressed despite their best efforts to stand up against the communist controlled regime (IRGC). Let us pray together that the efforts to support the good people of Iran will eventually work and that those men remaining who wish for freedom will be given the chance to take a stand.
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PS: In Iraq alone:

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20 years...nearly $3T.

#winning?
 
Samofvt said:
Although I believe it was a mistake to take down Sadam Husaine, Iraq seems to be well managed and peaceful towards it's neighbors. They even respected the request to guard their border with Iran during this time period.

Afghanistan would have been much better, but London interfered and put more ruthless people back in power. I don't think they are a threat, although Pakistan has been having to deal with a buildup of terrorists along it's border in recent years.

Iran is a different story altogether. Probably the root of all the evil in the middle east. Follow the money, and if it leads to a regime that hangs it's political opponents in public, then you know you are getting close to uncovering evil.

They have a well educated population who are being blatantly slaughtered and oppressed despite their best efforts to stand up against the communist controlled regime (IRGC). Let us pray together that the efforts to support the good people of Iran will eventually work and that those men remaining who wish for freedom will be given the chance to take a stand.
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PS: In Iraq alone:

1775964071610.webp

20 years...nearly $3T.

#winning?
 
candycorn said:
And gas in the US is up over $4 a gallon after "winning". Could you imagine how much higher it would have been if we lost or (better idea) didn't fight at all?
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What isn't up in price? In 1985, I remember when gas hit $1.00 per gallon because I was working at the local gas station. Plugging that into an inflation estimator, I come up with $3.10 in today's equivalent dollars. So current pricing isn't that unreasonable. Some may be due to the shutdown of American production over the past 6 years.

BTW, this is all stupid as far as energy prices. If we were smart, we could manufacture our own fuel for much less than that. But politics interferes with free markets.

And speaking about free markets and innovation, why do we import half of our chicken meat from China when we could produce it here at home? Food production on your own land so you can feed your family and neighbors should be a human right. Not something controlled by whatever collective is currently in power.
 
candycorn said:
And gas in the US is up over $4 a gallon after "winning". Could you imagine how much higher it would have been if we lost or (better idea) didn't fight at all?
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What isn't up in price? In 1985, I remember when gas hit $1.00 per gallon because I was working at the local gas station. Plugging that into an inflation estimator, I come up with $3.10 in today's equivalent dollars. So current pricing isn't that unreasonable. Some may be due to the shutdown of American production over the past 6 years.

BTW, this is all stupid as far as energy prices. If we were smart, we could manufacture our own fuel for much less than that. But politics interferes with free markets.

And speaking about free markets and innovation, why do we import half of our chicken meat from China when we could produce it here at home? Food production on your own land so you can feed your family and neighbors should be a human right. Not something controlled by whatever collective is currently in power.
 
skye said:
No shit.
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No, shit. if they were peaceful and not launching missiles and drones from Lebanon into Israel and other peaceful Arab countries, there would be no problem.

So no, shit.
 
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skye said:
No shit.
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No, shit. if they were peaceful and not launching missiles and drones from Lebanon into Israel and other peaceful Arab countries, there would be no problem.

So no, shit.
 
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