National constitutional carry bill heading to Congress

[ThisIsMe]

Yes, unconstitutional restrictions on law abiding citizens walking down a street with their gun if they happen to walk past a school.

Ok, well, let's see where this goes

 

[ThisIsMe]

In the EU and UK, we don't walk in a public place with guns, they are fun free zones. You will find there's no need. The US suffers greater crime, nose bleeding levels of gun deaths, much higher knife deaths, and dreadful statistics. Having guns on you to protect yourself is a fallacy, the stats and reality shows you that. But the planet can't fix stoopid. Most yanks have never been outside of their borders and thus don't have a grasp on reality.

Hmm, you really can't own a gun in the uk can you? I mean you can, but you have to jump through hoops to do so, right? There must be a need, not everyone can own one, right?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And if it’s stolen and used in a Murder then you deserve blowback

Why should you be responsible for someone stealing your property? Would the same apply if they stole your tire iron from a locked vehicle?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Not illegal , you just need to carry the ******* thing and not leave it in your rig ( as your whole rig can be stolen or towed to an unscrupulous Tow Yard ) almost half of stolen firearms used in Crimes are taken from Vehicles . If your gonna have a doctor do a prostate exam or your going into a Sporting event that will preclude a wanding then leave your piece at home ( or have a Fabrication / Welding Shop create a Car Safe for your piece that a Machinist Locksmith could not penetrate

Wow! The paranoia and authoritarianism are strong with this one! No thanks!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Says the man who pronounces ALUMINUM ALUMINIUM.

British English is the language of unnecessary and silent letters.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It's been over 200 years since we last kicked your asses.

Maybe it's time again.

Better yet, we should annex Canada. The would piss your idiot leaders off to no end. Maybe they'll even ~ gasp! ~ INVADE!!

Those row boats will take a long time to cross the Atlantic since they basically eliminated their Navy.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Hmm, you really can't own a gun in the uk can you? I mean you can, but you have to jump through hoops to do so, right? There must be a need, not everyone can own one, right?

Omg, another thick yank

 

[Captain Caveman]

You mean the English that understands what “ A Bunch of Fives “ means or the English that understands what a Pistol Carry Permit is ?

Just think, our University of Oxford dates back to 1096 and the interesting fact is, not one shooting!!

 

[Failzero]

Wow! The paranoia and authoritarianism are strong with this one! No thanks!

Try living in California for 60+ years and experiencing such change

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Try living in California for 60+ years and experiencing such change

You should have moved. Don't suggest imposing the same on others, which is what you did.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Omg, another thick yank

Am I wrong? I've read stories about owning a gun in the UK, it's very difficult and you need to have a reason.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Am I wrong? I've read stories about owning a gun in the UK, it's very difficult and you need to have a reason.

Our European cousins have been pacified.
So sad.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Am I wrong? I've read stories about owning a gun in the UK, it's very difficult and you need to have a reason.

UK gun laws

Gun laws - what responsible UK shooters need to know Interesting reading down some UK gun laws and a couple stood out - 7. Young Shots who have a shotgun certificate of their own can borrow a shotgun for up to 72 hours. As there's no age restriction on shotgun certificates, even 9 year olds...

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It's not difficult. Fill in the application form and pay the fee. You need one referee for a shotgun and two for a firearm. This is done through your local police force. They check your police, driving ,and medical records. If you're on social media, they check those. Then you get interviewed at your home, family members are interviewed too. Your referee(s) are interviewed too. You need a gun cabinet bolted to a solid wall. You need a reason for the gun, so you say you go clay pigeon shooting, or pheasant shooting, or you're part of a shooting range club for a firearm. When you pass that, the police will turn up with your certificate/licence and they will check your cabinet. Then go to a gun shop and buy away. The police will advise you to buy a few firearms and not one or two, I kid you not.

The above separates our stats from yours because the 2ndA arms the nutters. Our system vastly reduces the nutters having guns. And you DO NOT carry them in public places, you have them unloaded in a gun bag or box and transported in your car.

If you **** up any of that process, as in certain things on your record prevents you having a gun, then that is your fault. Breach the gun law, kiss your guns goodbye.

But the yanks are just obsessed that guns in the UK are banned. Who teaches them such crap? School?

 

[ThisIsMe]

UK gun laws

Gun laws - what responsible UK shooters need to know Interesting reading down some UK gun laws and a couple stood out - 7. Young Shots who have a shotgun certificate of their own can borrow a shotgun for up to 72 hours. As there's no age restriction on shotgun certificates, even 9 year olds...

www.usmessageboard.com

It's not difficult. Fill in the application form and pay the fee. You need one referee for a shotgun and two for a firearm. This is done through your local police force. They check your police, driving ,and medical records. If you're on social media, they check those. Then you get interviewed at your home, family members are interviewed too. Your referee(s) are interviewed too. You need a gun cabinet bolted to a solid wall. You need a reason for the gun, so you say you go clay pigeon shooting, or pheasant shooting, or you're part of a shooting range club for a firearm. When you pass that, the police will turn up with your certificate/licence and they will check your cabinet. Then go to a gun shop and buy away. The police will advise you to buy a few firearms and not one or two, I kid you not.

The above separates our stats from yours because the 2ndA arms the nutters. Our system vastly reduces the nutters having guns. And you DO NOT carry them in public places, you have them unloaded in a gun bag or box and transported in your car.

If you **** up any of that process, as in certain things on your record prevents you having a gun, then that is your fault. Breach the gun law, kiss your guns goodbye.

But the yanks are just obsessed that guns in the UK are banned. Who teaches them such crap? School?

You need a firearms certificate issued by the police to possess, buy or acquire a firearm or shotgun. You must also have a certificate to buy ammunition.

Firearms licensing

Licensing guidance, good practice on firearms law, and forms for applying for approvals under the law.

www.gov.uk

Shotguns and rifles may be licensed by applying for a certificate through the local police force, according to the government's guide on gun-licensing law.

For firearms other than a shotgun, applicants must give police a "good reason" for wanting to own one. Hunting or being a member of a shooting club, for example, might be seen as good reasons. Self-defence won't be considered a valid reason.

Take a look at the guns you can legally buy in the UK

The UK banned handguns in 1997, but citizens are still able to own and shoot some shotguns and rifles with a license.

www.businessinsider.com

The laws restrict handguns to "good reason" self defense is not a good reason

You can own shotguns and rifles (sporting rifles) after a process of obtaining a permit from the police.

Hence my statements about it being difficult and restricted.

 

[marvin martian]

Firearms licensing

Licensing guidance, good practice on firearms law, and forms for applying for approvals under the law.

www.gov.uk

Take a look at the guns you can legally buy in the UK

The UK banned handguns in 1997, but citizens are still able to own and shoot some shotguns and rifles with a license.

www.businessinsider.com

The laws restrict handguns to "good reason" self defense is not a good reason

You can own shotguns and rifles (sporting rifles) after a process of obtaining a permit from the police.

Hence my statements about it being difficult and restricted.

Like many blue states in the US, the UK seeks to limit legal gun ownership to wealthy people only.

When I lived in California, where I held a concealed carry permit for 20+ years, the process to obtain the permit - between fees, required training (a joke), and time off work to keep permit appointments/background checks, etc., - cost about $800-$1,000 a year to exercise my civil right to self-defense.

This was intentional by the state to limit CCW permits to people with the means to do this every year.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The laws restrict handguns to "good reason" self defense is not a good reason

You can own shotguns and rifles (sporting rifles) after a process of obtaining a permit from the police.

Hence my statements about it being difficult and restricted.

It isn't, you might find it tricky because you have to use your brain. The good reason is, you go clay pigeon shooting (shotgun) or you're a gun shooting range member (firearm).

Just pay the fee and apply.

This is why Yanks would fail a UK gun application because their good reason is just to shoot others because of the self defence fallacy. The whole problem with guns is people getting shot, and your brain is in default mode to shoot others in the name of the self defence fallacy.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The laws restrict handguns to "good reason" self defense is not a good reason

They cannot understand that in a free country, you do not need to demonstrate to the state that you have a good reason to exercise your rights.

Pacified.

 

[Failzero]

Like many blue states in the US, the UK seeks to limit legal gun ownership to wealthy people only.

When I lived in California, where I held a concealed carry permit for 20+ years, the process to obtain the permit - between fees, required training (a joke), and time off work to keep permit appointments/background checks, etc., - cost about $800-$1,000 a year to exercise my civil right to self-defense.

This was intentional by the state to limit CCW permits to people with the means to do this every year.

Shasta County CCW holder since 2011 ( Initial fee for Sheriff 160.00 $ including BGC , Mountain tactical Training ( French Gulch Ca.) 8 hour initial CCW Class including Range & classroom 160.00$ = 320.00$ total for two years . Renewals up until 2023 65.00 $ Fee and 80.00$ For 4 hour renewal class & Range time . After 2023 renewal = 8 Hours class / range and Holder must qualify with ea. weapon on Permit 160.00 $ Class fee / 95.00 $ Sheriff fee

 

[AZrailwhale]

UK gun laws

Gun laws - what responsible UK shooters need to know Interesting reading down some UK gun laws and a couple stood out - 7. Young Shots who have a shotgun certificate of their own can borrow a shotgun for up to 72 hours. As there's no age restriction on shotgun certificates, even 9 year olds...

www.usmessageboard.com

It's not difficult. Fill in the application form and pay the fee. You need one referee for a shotgun and two for a firearm. This is done through your local police force. They check your police, driving ,and medical records. If you're on social media, they check those. Then you get interviewed at your home, family members are interviewed too. Your referee(s) are interviewed too. You need a gun cabinet bolted to a solid wall. You need a reason for the gun, so you say you go clay pigeon shooting, or pheasant shooting, or you're part of a shooting range club for a firearm. When you pass that, the police will turn up with your certificate/licence and they will check your cabinet. Then go to a gun shop and buy away. The police will advise you to buy a few firearms and not one or two, I kid you not.

The above separates our stats from yours because the 2ndA arms the nutters. Our system vastly reduces the nutters having guns. And you DO NOT carry them in public places, you have them unloaded in a gun bag or box and transported in your car.

If you **** up any of that process, as in certain things on your record prevents you having a gun, then that is your fault. Breach the gun law, kiss your guns goodbye.

But the yanks are just obsessed that guns in the UK are banned. Who teaches them such crap? School?

So you can only possess a firearm, and only of a limited type, IF the government not only decides that you want one, but that you deserve one, and you have no recourse if they decide that you fail to meet THEIR standards of need. That's means possession of a firearm is not a right, but a privilege, revocable at any time for any reason, or none at all. If you fail to see that is wrong, you are an indoctrinated idiot.

 

[Captain Caveman]

So you can only possess a firearm, and only of a limited type, IF the government not only decides that you want one, but that you deserve one, and you have no recourse if they decide that you fail to meet THEIR standards of need. That's means possession of a firearm is not a right, but a privilege, revocable at any time for any reason, or none at all. If you fail to see that is wrong, you are an indoctrinated idiot.

Another thick yank.

Why are you all so retarded with guns??