My white privilege

[Ray From Cleveland]

Okay, so let's look at that bad analogy. If you had a major house fire because you set the fire, you wouldn't deserve it... that's the point.

Again, the reason why you should care about politics is to create the kind of world you'd want to live in. the world you want to live in, no government would have been there to protect you to start with.

In the world I want to live in, government wouldn't have had the ability to throw me out of my career and into the streets. I'd still be happily working today. That's where your analogy is BS. I didn't do this to myself, government did it to me. A better analogy is that I paid insurance all my life, and the insurance company set my house afire.

I know it bothers the hell out of you. I'd bet my dollar to anybody's dime you lose sleep over it almost every night because of your severe OCD that you refuse to get treatment for. You're such a hypocrite that you rant because a hard working man needs to collect from a program he funded for 42 years, but embellish those who never even tried, irresponsibly had children they could never afford in the first place, and live off the system they never paid one dime into their entire life.

It's been a year and three months since I applied for disability, and was accepted one year ago this month, and you've brought it up in nearly every exchange we've had, but you don't think you have a severe mental problem.

 

[JoeB131]

In the world I want to live in, government wouldn't have had the ability to throw me out of my career and into the streets. I'd still be happily working today. That's where your analogy is BS. I didn't do this to myself, government did it to me. A better analogy is that I paid insurance all my life, and the insurance company set my house afire.

Not really. The fact is, even before the government finally took you off the road, no one but Bottom Feeder Trucking would hire you. The real problem is you never bothered to try to develop other skills even though you knew eventually you couldn't do that for a living after a certain point.

I know it bothers the hell out of you. I'd bet my dollar to anybody's dime you lose sleep over it almost every night because of your severe OCD that you refuse to get treatment for. You're such a hypocrite that you rant because a hard working man needs to collect from a program he funded for 42 years, but embellish those who never even tried, irresponsibly had children they could never afford in the first place, and live off the system they never paid one dime into their entire life.

Again, disability should be there for people who truly need it, not someone scamming the system. What amuses me is you think that you are better than the person who only works 30 hours a week so they can get food stamps. Or the person who collects unemployment but is still doing side jobs. You guys whine to high heaven about "Welfare" when the other guy gets it.

It's been a year and three months since I applied for disability, and was accepted one year ago this month, and you've brought it up in nearly every exchange we've had, but you don't think you have a severe mental problem.

No, guy, I bring it up for the same reason why I brought up your health insurance issue before that.

You are confused poor. The kind of dumb white person who lives in a slum, collects government benefits, and keeps voting Republican

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Not really. The fact is, even before the government finally took you off the road, no one but Bottom Feeder Trucking would hire you. The real problem is you never bothered to try to develop other skills even though you knew eventually you couldn't do that for a living after a certain point.

I can still do it now, it's just they won't let me. Their call, not mine.

Again, disability should be there for people who truly need it, not someone scamming the system. What amuses me is you think that you are better than the person who only works 30 hours a week so they can get food stamps. Or the person who collects unemployment but is still doing side jobs. You guys whine to high heaven about "Welfare" when the other guy gets it.

What did I tell you about using words you don't know the meaning of OCD? All you do is make yourself look more of buffoon. You are such a dumb ass you support the party that put me out of work and created the system I'm on. How much more of a dumbass can you be?

No, guy, I bring it up for the same reason why I brought up your health insurance issue before that.

You are confused poor. The kind of dumb white person who lives in a slum, collects government benefits, and keeps voting Republican

That's why I promote dividing this country. As Ronald Reagan once said, government is not the solution to our problems--government is the problem.

I had a beautiful home and business in a nice middle-class suburb. Government inserted their lowlifes in it and now it went downhill. I had a job that provided health insurance to it's employees, the Kenyan lawn jockey destroyed that for for me and millions of American. I had a job and career I liked. Government bureaucrats kept changing regulations to the point I could no longer work.

Without government, I would still be living in a beautiful suburb, and have a good career, job and health insurance. Government took that all away from me. Then you Communists try to blame us for the disaster you created by voting commie. In under two months, our gasoline prices increased over 30%. Our southern border that Trump had well under control is now a border crisis again, letting in people not even tested for Covid. The Naizs are trying to change our entire election system to form a one-party government with no opposition, and if successful, will be the end of the great experiment as we slip into Socialism and Communism. That could happen in less than ten years.

That's why I vote Republican.

 

[JoeB131]

I can still do it now, it's just they won't let me. Their call, not mine.

Yes, thankfully, they are keeping us all safe... Whew.

That's why I promote dividing this country. As Ronald Reagan once said, government is not the solution to our problems--government is the problem.

And then he doubled government spending.

I had a beautiful home and business in a nice middle-class suburb. Government inserted their lowlifes in it and now it went downhill. I had a job that provided health insurance to it's employees, the Kenyan lawn jockey destroyed that for for me and millions of American. I had a job and career I liked. Government bureaucrats kept changing regulations to the point I could no longer work.

Wow. Did government make you wallow in self-pity?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, thankfully, they are keeping us all safe... Whew.

Fine, then what are you complaining about?

And then he doubled government spending.

The commies are going to spend 2 trillion dollars in less than 2 months, mostly for leftist pork.

Wow. Did government make you wallow in self-pity?

No self-pity in the truth. I'm not complaining--you are. I dealt with the problems they brought to me and am doing just fine. It's you that's not.

 

[Man of Ethics]

I am white. If privilege applied to me because of my skin color, I would be earning a high 5 figure income with a degree from a college of my choosing on the back of a full-ride scholarship. My privilege would have shielded me from some of the dumbest decisions I ever made in my life. I wouldn't be here dedicating almost 80% of mine and my grandmother's monthly income to bills and survival. We don't enjoy any privilege because of our skin color. Being white never made our lives any easier.

I am sorry -- you have suffered a lot due to your Social Class. An African American from the same Social Class would have been:

-- Poorer
-- Possibly imprisoned for some time
-- Generally much worse off

 

[Man of Ethics]

We are a lower-middle-class family who barely has enough money to make ends meet. If there was a privilege, we never knew about it. I am sure the billions of white people who existed in the world before me and throughout history who suffered from poverty, famines, genocide, murder, cruel dictatorships...

Discrimination against lower class people is very severe.

But lower-middle-class Minorities suffer even more.

 

[JoeB131]

Fine, then what are you complaining about?

That if you spent half the time looking or training to do something else instead of whining here, you'd be gainfully employed by now. But nope. Send Ray that welfare check, he totally deserves it unlike those other welfare people.

The commies are going to spend 2 trillion dollars in less than 2 months, mostly for leftist pork.

Awesome, it's just the shot in the arm the economy needs right now. Sorry, man, we are all Keynesians now.

No self-pity in the truth. I'm not complaining--you are. I dealt with the problems they brought to me and am doing just fine. It's you that's not.

Let's see now. You live in a slum. You collect welfare. You hate your neighbors and you have anger management problems. You are not doing fine.

I live in a nice neighborhood, I have a successful business, I get along fine with my neighbors and now that Trump is out of office, things couldn't be better.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That if you spent half the time looking or training to do something else instead of whining here, you'd be gainfully employed by now. But nope. Send Ray that welfare check, he totally deserves it unlike those other welfare people.

You exemplify what I've always said about leftists: You have the ability learn things, but zero common sense. Liberals are void of logic which is why you're a liberal.

So I'm 60 years old and spend thousands of dollars on training. I finally get my certification to do X work. Now I'm 61 with one year left to retire looking for a job as a rookie in that field of work, and you expect me to get a job. Would you hire a 61 year old rookie if you had an electric company, an HVAC company, a computer company, especially given we have 6.3% unemployment and much younger and experienced people are looking to get hired by you?

Now, even if I could possibly get hired (which I wouldn't) then I'd have to repay all that money for my training in that year or so. It would be a net loss and a lot of wasted time, while risking death because I had to risk my life and health attending class with 20 other people. Brilliant. Leftists are complete morons, even if they attended college for 6 years.

Awesome, it's just the shot in the arm the economy needs right now. Sorry, man, we are all Keynesians now.

It's putting our grandchildren in debt to payoff Democrat cities who have been putting themselves in the hole long before Covid. It's going to colleges because nearly all teachers, professors and even college students vote commie. It's going to Piglosi's multi-billion dollar high speed train to nowhere that nobody will use. Over 30 billion to rescue the failed ACA, another 16 billion to Medicaid that has mostly lowlife Democrat voters, 10 billion to prisoners for Medicaid, 100 billion to payoff their union school teachers, 10 million to preserve Native American language, like why would it take 10 million dollars to do that? 120% payoff of outstanding debt to minority farmers. Who do those minority farmers vote for? 270 billion to the national endowments of the arts and humanities.

It's nothing but pork and many items have nothing to do with Covid at all.

Let's see now. You live in a slum. You collect welfare. You hate your neighbors and you have anger management problems. You are not doing fine.

I live in a nice neighborhood, I have a successful business, I get along fine with my neighbors and now that Trump is out of office, things couldn't be better.

Good, because this surge in gas prices is just the start. It's going to slow down the economy which means your resume writing is going to take a hit due to lack of jobs. I don't have an anger management problem--you do. You hate wealthy people. You hate white people. You hate Jewish people. You hate gun owners. You hate our police. You hate capitalism. You hate everything.

OCD, you could live in a 10 million dollar mansion with servants waiting on you hand and foot, and you'd still be miserable unless you get your mental issues addressed, which you never will.

 

[JoeB131]

You exemplify what I've always said about leftists: You have the ability learn things, but zero common sense. Liberals are void of logic which is why you're a liberal.

So I'm 60 years old and spend thousands of dollars on training. I finally get my certification to do X work. Now I'm 61 with one year left to retire looking for a job as a rookie in that field of work, and you expect me to get a job. Would you hire a 61 year old rookie if you had an electric company, an HVAC company, a computer company, especially given we have 6.3% unemployment and much younger and experienced people are looking to get hired by you?

First, guy, you should have been developing skills LONG before you hit 60. You should also be better at defining your skills. If you have been in the workforce 40 years and the only thing you know how to do is "Drive a truck in a straight line" then you really did yourself a disservice.

Give you an example.. my brother was a truck driver. Then he had a stroke, and they really couldn't put him on the road anymore. He's like on a shitload of meds. Because he worked in a union shop, the union made the company give him a chance at inside sales, and he does reasonably well at it, I guess. (Of course, he's a Trump supporter, and doesn't realize that liberals made it possible for him to be protected.)

It's putting our grandchildren in debt to payoff Democrat cities who have been putting themselves in the hole long before Covid. It's going to colleges because nearly all teachers, professors and even college students vote commie. It's going to Piglosi's multi-billion dollar high speed train to nowhere that nobody will use. Over 30 billion to rescue the failed ACA, another 16 billion to Medicaid that has mostly lowlife Democrat voters, 10 billion to prisoners for Medicaid, 100 billion to payoff their union school teachers, 10 million to preserve Native American language, like why would it take 10 million dollars to do that? 120% payoff of outstanding debt to minority farmers. Who do those minority farmers vote for? 270 billion to the national endowments of the arts and humanities.

It's nothing but pork and many items have nothing to do with Covid at all.

Well, if we stopped giving tax breaks to billionaires, this wouldn't be an issue. Of course, all those sectors need a shot in the arm... and frankly Trump and the Republicans had nearly a year to pass this second round of stimulus and refused to do so...

Good, because this surge in gas prices is just the start. It's going to slow down the economy which means your resume writing is going to take a hit due to lack of jobs.

Guy, we heard you all say this shit when Clinton got elected, we heard you guys say this shit when Obama got elected.

Actually, higher unemployment would probably be a benefit to resume writing. MOre people out looking for jobs, more need for resumes. But moving on.

I don't have an anger management problem--you do. You hate wealthy people. You hate white people. You hate Jewish people. You hate gun owners. You hate our police. You hate capitalism. You hate everything.

Uh, you listed six groups.

I do hate Wealthy people, because their greed is destroying the country.
I'm mostly fine with white people... most of my relatives are white people.
I've got no problem with "Jewish" people, I have a huge problem with the fascist philosophy of Zionism that has our country's leader's balls in a lockbox.
I'm fine with the police, but I think law enforcement needs serious reforms, and they need to get rid of the bad apples before they kill people

 

[Man of Ethics]

The Germans are more liberal than we are. Seriously, if we followed the German model, it would be every Democratic wet dream come to life. Living wages, universal health care, unionization, high taxes on the rich.

As a Classical Liberal, I agree with that 100%. Germany 2021 is much more humane then USA.

 

[Man of Ethics]

African Americans in USA experienced and experience more discrimination then Jews in USSR.

USSR had no equivalent of Jim Crow Laws, but Jews did experience discrimination in university admission in 1968 -- 1986. Thank G-d, my parents became students shortly before 1968.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

First, guy, you should have been developing skills LONG before you hit 60. You should also be better at defining your skills. If you have been in the workforce 40 years and the only thing you know how to do is "Drive a truck in a straight line" then you really did yourself a disservice.

Give you an example.. my brother was a truck driver. Then he had a stroke, and they really couldn't put him on the road anymore. He's like on a shitload of meds. Because he worked in a union shop, the union made the company give him a chance at inside sales, and he does reasonably well at it, I guess. (Of course, he's a Trump supporter, and doesn't realize that liberals made it possible for him to be protected.)

Again, a leftist lack of logic.

No blue collar worker does two professional lines of work. You see what you want to do for a living, learn how to do it, and do it to the best of your ability. But even if I did that, I'm supposed to go out to find a job in my second line of work that I haven't done in 35 years? You are completely stupid. No kind of professional work stays the same. You have to be in that field of work to experience, learn, or get educated of those changes.

Yeah, my work was driving in a straight line. You have no idea how stupid of a comment that is. If it's just driving in a straight line and getting paid well, why do we still have tens of thousands of driving jobs that can't be filled? Worse before the virus. You couldn't do my job for twice the money I made. But I can go to Youtube and learn how to do your monkey job.

Well, if we stopped giving tax breaks to billionaires, this wouldn't be an issue. Of course, all those sectors need a shot in the arm... and frankly Trump and the Republicans had nearly a year to pass this second round of stimulus and refused to do so...

You can take every tax break away from the wealthy, and it isn't going to make up for this 2 trillion dollar pork bill by the commies. All you would accomplish is what we did before, and that is companies and citizens leaving the country and taking their jobs and money with them, much like the unions did to this nation years ago. Why do you think creepy Joe and the other commies wouldn't go along with the $15.00 minimum wage? They know that's what would happen.

Guy, we heard you all say this shit when Clinton got elected, we heard you guys say this shit when Obama got elected.

Actually, higher unemployment would probably be a benefit to resume writing. MOre people out looking for jobs, more need for resumes. But moving on.

Think for a minute slick: Nobody is going to get resumes for jobs that aren't there. The price of fuel will keep on increasing. That means Americans will have less residual money to spend. When spending stops, so does consuming products and services.

Clinton had two things going for him: the first is he actually listened to the Republicans. The second thing is he happened to be President at the beginning of the tech boom; something he had no control of.

Biden just endorsed a law that endangers 57 million jobs

With the rise of gig economy jobs such as driving for Uber and other forms of independent work enabled by the digital era, more than 57 million Americans

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, my work was driving in a straight line. You have no idea how stupid of a comment that is. If it's just driving in a straight line and getting paid well, why do we still have tens of thousands of driving jobs that can't be filled? Worse before the virus. You couldn't do my job for twice the money I made. But I can go to Youtube and learn how to do your monkey job.

Dude, I did your job when I was in the Army... And it wasn't even a nice truck. It was an Army Truck, which means no air conditioning, no radio, and dubious controls even when they did work.

Tell you what, go on YouTube, then write up a resume and show me what it looks like (you can take out your personal information, obviously). Then I can laugh at it and point out all the things you did wrong.

Look, you can watch a video on how to play the Guitar, but you aren't going to be Eric Clapton.
You can watch a video on how to write a resume, but you aren't going to be me.

No blue collar worker does two professional lines of work. You see what you want to do for a living, learn how to do it, and do it to the best of your ability. But even if I did that, I'm supposed to go out to find a job in my second line of work that I haven't done in 35 years? You are completely stupid. No kind of professional work stays the same. You have to be in that field of work to experience, learn, or get educated of those changes.

So you picked the wrong line of work, developed no other marketable skills, and I'm the stupid one.

Think for a minute slick: Nobody is going to get resumes for jobs that aren't there. The price of fuel will keep on increasing. That means Americans will have less residual money to spend. When spending stops, so does consuming products and services.

Okay, you know, the problem is, you guys keep predicting disaster when a Democrat gets in, but things generally end up getting BETTER when a Democrat gets in. (With maybe the exception of Jimmy Carter).

If anything, things are going to boom under Biden for a number of reasons. First, a 1.9 Trillion shot in the arm. Secondly, the country will be fully vaccinated by May at this point.

You can take every tax break away from the wealthy, and it isn't going to make up for this 2 trillion dollar pork bill by the commies. All you would accomplish is what we did before, and that is companies and citizens leaving the country and taking their jobs and money with them, much like the unions did to this nation years ago. Why do you think creepy Joe and the other commies wouldn't go along with the $15.00 minimum wage? They know that's what would happen.

Yeah, you guys keep saying that.. but Obama and Clinton raised taxes on the rich and the economy got better.

Did you ever hear the story about the boy who cried Wolf?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Dude, I did your job when I was in the Army... And it wasn't even a nice truck. It was an Army Truck, which means no air conditioning, no radio, and dubious controls even when they did work.

Tell you what, go on YouTube, then write up a resume and show me what it looks like (you can take out your personal information, obviously). Then I can laugh at it and point out all the things you did wrong.

Look, you can watch a video on how to play the Guitar, but you aren't going to be Eric Clapton.
You can watch a video on how to write a resume, but you aren't going to be me.

The problem is videos can do these things. One time about a year ago, I looked into your claim. There are literally hundreds of resume videos out there from professionals and professional companies. Some were free and others were for sale, but they work. For you to tell me every single one is nothing that you do is ridiculous.

I would never try to go into teaching again for the same reason. When I was doing it, there was no internet or Youtube. Today there is, and that means a diminished amount of students. Granted, most will never be Eric Clapton, but most wouldn't be any way with personal instruction. However the very talented kids will gain a lot from those videos. I wished I had Youtube when I was learning myself.

About five years ago or so, one of my tenants told me he was having problems with his washing machine. I called an appliance guy who gave me a $225.00 quote over the phone to replace a kill switch on the washer lid. I went into his basement, copied the make and model and went to Youtube. They had several videos on it. They explained step by step how to do it. When I got the switch out, I went to the appliance store with $100.00. I assumed the switch cost somewhere in that area given the work to replace it was minimal. $15.00. That's what the guy charged me for the switch. I saved myself over $200.00 because of Youtube, and the appliance guy lost a repair.

So you picked the wrong line of work, developed no other marketable skills, and I'm the stupid one.

There was nothing wrong with my line of work. It was a career where I was in high demand and a promising future. I had no idea how intrusive government would actually get that put me out of a job and career. Nobody could expect that.

Okay, you know, the problem is, you guys keep predicting disaster when a Democrat gets in, but things generally end up getting BETTER when a Democrat gets in. (With maybe the exception of Jimmy Carter).

If anything, things are going to boom under Biden for a number of reasons. First, a 1.9 Trillion shot in the arm. Secondly, the country will be fully vaccinated by May at this point.

Except for the fact most Americans will see little to none of that. It's mostly pork to fellow Democrat cities, states, and associated Democrat supporters. The vaccine will make improvements, but will quickly be offset by much higher fuel prices, increased taxes on our job producers, and providing people more money to stay home instead of working.

Yeah, you guys keep saying that.. but Obama and Clinton raised taxes on the rich and the economy got better.

Did you ever hear the story about the boy who cried Wolf?

DumBama had the slowest recovery since WWII. Clinton had the tech era, and he also took Newt's advice by lowering capital gains taxes which always encourages investments. This is different because Creepy put his agenda on his website: Disarm American citizens, destroy the suburbs, increase taxes on our job producers, double or more the price of fuel for Americans, bring back Commie Care mandates including fines on our job producers.

What it all means is less money for the people, and more money for government. A clear recipe for a stagnant if not destroyed economy.

 

[InspectorDetector]

I am white. If privilege applied to me because of my skin color, I would be earning a high 5 figure income with a degree from a college of my choosing on the back of a full-ride scholarship. My privilege would have shielded me from some of the dumbest decisions I ever made in my life. I wouldn't be here dedicating almost 80% of mine and my grandmother's monthly income to bills and survival. We don't enjoy any privilege because of our skin color. Being white never made our lives any easier.

I am sorry -- you have suffered a lot due to your Social Class. An African American from the same Social Class would have been:

-- Poorer
-- Possibly imprisoned for some time
-- Generally much worse off

Yeah, because as everyone knows - they never commit crime. Hell, the Cleaver family had nothing on Blacks.

 

[JoeB131]

he problem is videos can do these things. One time about a year ago, I looked into your claim. There are literally hundreds of resume videos out there from professionals and professional companies. Some were free and others were for sale, but they work. For you to tell me every single one is nothing that you do is ridiculous.

Again, go back. LOok at one of those videos, write your own resume and then post the results... It should be funny to watch all the things you get wrong.

There was nothing wrong with my line of work. It was a career where I was in high demand and a promising future. I had no idea how intrusive government would actually get that put me out of a job and career. Nobody could expect that.

Nobody would expect the government to keep unhealthy people out from behind the controls of a 80,000 lb. vehicle barreling down the road at 65 MPH?

Except for the fact most Americans will see little to none of that. It's mostly pork to fellow Democrat cities, states, and associated Democrat supporters. The vaccine will make improvements, but will quickly be offset by much higher fuel prices, increased taxes on our job producers, and providing people more money to stay home instead of working.

You do realize that "pork" eventually employs people in government service and infrastructure, right? This is kind of the basis of Kenyesian economics (which has a proven record of working around the world) and Supply Side, which has failed every time it's been tried.

Again, the last three Republicans gave us four brutal recessions. The last two Democrats gave us recoveries. You guys really don't get to argue this anymore.

DumBama had the slowest recovery since WWII. Clinton had the tech era, and he also took Newt's advice by lowering capital gains taxes which always encourages investments. This is different because Creepy put his agenda on his website: Disarm American citizens, destroy the suburbs, increase taxes on our job producers, double or more the price of fuel for Americans, bring back Commie Care mandates including fines on our job producers.

Yes, yes, IT'S ALWAYS someone else's fault.

Let's review, shall we.

Bush-41 - Recession
Clinton - Prosperity
Bush-43 TWO Recessions
Obama- Prosperity
Trump - Recession and Plague
Biden- Prosperity.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Again, go back. LOok at one of those videos, write your own resume and then post the results... It should be funny to watch all the things you get wrong.

Fine with me, but you do the same. Go out and get your Class A CDL. It shouldn't be that hard. After all, they will only test you to see if you can drive in a straight line, right?

Nobody would expect the government to keep unhealthy people out from behind the controls of a 80,000 lb. vehicle barreling down the road at 65 MPH?

You mean the same 80,000 lbs vehicle I drove successfully for nearly 30 years without one accident in my name, not even a dent in the bumper, with no moving traffic violations on my license, no CSA 2010 points, even in our treacherous winters in Ohio? And the several years operating a vehicle weighing 20,000 lbs the same?

Yeah, we need to take a person like that off the road. Typical government thinking.

You do realize that "pork" eventually employs people in government service and infrastructure, right? This is kind of the basis of Kenyesian economics (which has a proven record of working around the world) and Supply Side, which has failed every time it's been tried.

Again, the last three Republicans gave us four brutal recessions. The last two Democrats gave us recoveries. You guys really don't get to argue this anymore.

Your statement is what's known as political ignorance. It's why you people shouldn't be allowed to vote.

 

[Man of Ethics]

I am white. If privilege applied to me because of my skin color, I would be earning a high 5 figure income with a degree from a college of my choosing on the back of a full-ride scholarship. My privilege would have shielded me from some of the dumbest decisions I ever made in my life. I wouldn't be here dedicating almost 80% of mine and my grandmother's monthly income to bills and survival. We don't enjoy any privilege because of our skin color. Being white never made our lives any easier.

I am sorry -- you have suffered a lot due to your Social Class. An African American from the same Social Class would have been:

-- Poorer
-- Possibly imprisoned for some time
-- Generally much worse off

Yeah, because as everyone knows - they never commit crime. Hell, the Cleaver family had nothing on Blacks.

Hurt People Hurt People.

People of all Races who live in poverty and social disadvantage are more likely to commit crime.

 

[Unkotare]

....You mean the same 80,000 lbs vehicle I drove successfully for nearly 30 years .....

You must have had to piss like crazy when you finally stopped after 30 years. Where were you going, Mars or something?