My Opinion On The Motive Of The Shooter

[candycorn]

1. He was one of the many who disliked both candidates, both Biden and Trump, or maybe just both parties

2. He did searches as to where both Trump and Biden would be and when

3. Trump was the easiest first target so Trump got to go first, and, Biden might just be removed from the ticket anyway (or maybe even if Biden was replaced on the ticket he felt he still had a job to do, due to a dislike of both parties (his father was registered as a Libertarian))

4. The shooter recently posted on Steam that July 13th would be his "premier", indicating that he possibly expected the show to go on after Trump, especially considering he told his bosses he needed Saturday off and told his co-workers he would be back to work Sunday.

He was a registered republican gun nut (fact). Opinion....he saw the fame that Pop and Fresh Rittenhouse got and wanted some of that.

 

[candycorn]

Most people seem to believe that all that is needed to get help for those with mental illness. The fact is that serious mental illness is very difficult to treat much less cure. There are drugs that can control psychosis but they have such terrible side effects that no wants to take them. Imagine trying get your 18 year old psychotic son to take drugs that will will control the psychosis but leave him devoid of emotions and sexually important.

Also, if there was such a determination made it would be unthinkable (I hope) but imagine just how detatched you have to be as a parent (unless you're off the reservation yourself) to buy a machine gun for your kid if you know he's having these struggles. Do you just not care or do you not-know (which is worse in my book).

 

[Independent thinker]

In your own words, put that here in the forum...

Ummmmmmmmm, you just quoted my post, which was in my own words. Boy are you stupid.

 

[Independent thinker]

Most people seem to believe that all that is needed to get help for those with mental illness. The fact is that serious mental illness is very difficult to treat much less cure. There are drugs that can control psychosis but they have such terrible side effects that no wants to take them. Imagine trying to get your 18 year old psychotic son to take drugs that will will control the psychosis but leave him devoid of emotions and sexually impotent

Not to mention that in many cases they quit taking the meds because they feel better and think they don't need them anymore.

 

[Cougarbear]

Ummmmmmmmm, you just quoted my post, which was in my own words. Boy are you stupid.

Then you are not an independent thinker. Just parroting the Demorat Party talking points.

 

[JWBooth]

 

[Independent thinker]

Then you are not an independent thinker. Just parroting the Demorat Party talking points.

LOL. If you look at all of my posts on here I do not parrot dem talking points and the left constantly call me a MAGA Trump ass licker and that I parrot right wing talking points. Just goes to show how far you have fallen off the edge of the Earth with your far right conspiracy nonsense.

 

[Flopper]

Also, if there was such a determination made it would be unthinkable (I hope) but imagine just how detatched you have to be as a parent (unless you're off the reservation yourself) to buy a machine gun for your kid if you know he's having these struggles. Do you just not care or do you not-know (which is worse in my book).

Parents are not the only place where kids can get guns.

In most states, 18 is still the minimum age to buy guns and ammunition. Although 21 is the federal law, that only applies to licensed dealers.

The big hole in gun sale laws is there is no oversight on sales between individuals. Kids and mental cases cases can buy guns from individuals as long as the seller is willing to take the risk of being charged with a crime if the sale is traced back to them. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people out there that are willing to take that risk if the price is right. If a kid is determine to get guns, he will be able to get them.

 

[Flopper]

Not to mention that in many cases they quit taking the meds because they feel better and think they don't need them anymore.

One of the hardest things in treating a person who is psychotic is convincing them that their psychosis is caused by mental illness that can be treated. The psychoses can be so real to the patient that they can't believe what they are hearing and seeing is not real.

I have a family member who is schizophrenic. When the voices are quite, we can have a very normal conversation. However, he can't make a plan and follow it through when he is off his meds.

He says he's going to walk to store to get some groceries. On the way, he get's on a bus and rides downtown, goes in a store and buys some cigarettes. We get a call from the police later in the day. They say he is sitting on a bench laughing and talking to himself with most of his clothes off in freezing weather. People that are psychotic would have great difficulty in planning a crime. If they had a gun in their pocket, they might kill anyone thinking they are killing an alien monster.

 

[candycorn]

Parents are not the only place where kids can get guns.

In most states, 18 is still the minimum age to buy guns and ammunition. Although 21 is the federal law, that only applies to licensed dealers.

The big hole in gun sale laws is there is no oversight on sales between individuals. Kids and mental cases cases can buy guns from individuals as long as the seller is willing to take the risk of being charged with a crime if the sale is traced back to them. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people out there that are willing to take that risk if the price is right. If a kid is determine to get guns, he will be able to get them.

Or that you can have strict gun control laws in Illinois while they sell guns out of gum ball machines in Missouri. What do you think is going to happen to those guns they buy in Misery? Some will find their way into Illinois.

 

[M14 Shooter]

In most states, 18 is still the minimum age to buy guns and ammunition. Although 21 is the federal law, that only applies to licensed dealers.

It also only applies to handguns.

The big hole in gun sale laws is there is no oversight on sales between individuals. Kids and mental cases cases can buy guns from individuals as long as the seller is willing to take the risk of being charged with a crime if the sale is traced back to them. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people out there that are willing to take that risk if the price is right. If a kid is determine to get guns, he will be able to get them.

These people will not be stopped by whatever 'oversight' the Democrats come up with.