My Folks were immigrants, they didn't own anyone

After slavery, blacks were being killed by whites with no crimes charged
Who has killed more blacks?
A) White slave owners
or
B) Other blacks

I’m certain you have the numbers...please share before we go any further because we swear, we really want to take you seriously.
Slave owners did not kill blacks. Black lives mattered then.
 
I know you are a failure in life, IM2, and that you see your only option involves these constant scams of yours involving using your skin color as a way to receive money for nothing through "reparations" for any of a number of things that have never actually happened to you, but there IS another way.

Have you ever considered learning a skill, instead, finding some gainful employment, and start working for a change instead of just whining and scheming as to ways you can get money without working at it?
Now this is demeaning and insulting based on your preconceived notions or prejudice against IM2 you do not know in person or know his experiences.

Dogmaphobe
IM2 is an extremely competent, effective and successful person with both the ability and luxury to argue on here and advocate using extensive research, knowledge and experience to back both the history and the dynamics of racial disparity and relations.

Just because we don't agree how to prioritize or present the blame for these problems doesn't mean IM2 is in any way inferior or lacking of skills!

Where are you getting THAT from,
except as an attempt to personally attack and troll someone.

IM2 is clearly competent or we wouldn't be having this very articulate debate over "white individualism" versus collectivism that is culturally manifested in African, Asian, Latino and Native cultures focused on community and cooperative economy.

Trying to master the best contributions from individual AND collective approaches, while preventing the abuses of either approach, involves equal respect and sharing.

Taking turns attacking and insulting each other back and forth only reinforces the boundaries or turf lines we already know exist.

If your point is to exert who is going to be the top dog in this fight, and who is going to bow to being insulted and bullied, I don't see IM2 agreeing to that.

We don't have to agree or respect each other's views and beliefs.

But we should understand that all people have rights to their beliefs and are going to defend them.

And that insulting or attacking someone just makes the attacker look bad or weak in deflecting and distracting from the real issues.

Clearly, IM2 is not going to change his mind or beliefs that white imposition of individualism is to blame for class disparity by enforcing a oneway bias.

If you can please address how can we expect to solve problems based on these biases, instead of trying to attack or undermine the credibility of people in opposition, we might make more progress!

Note: Apologies to IM2 for inserting my own pro-individualist opinion and perception here. If you can please put up with my way of communicating that you see as part of the white racist problem, I can certainly continue to put up with you "collectively" blaming me by classing me in with other white racists instead of using individualistic approaches to discern how I am saying something different from other white individualists who blame and discredit you for your beliefs instead of trying to work with you, as I advocate, given that you plan to keep those beliefs.
 
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Every one of my ancestors that I can find was here before 1700 and none of them owned slaves, but every person living in America benefitted from the fruits of slavery. And in 1964, everyone of my living relatives lived in an all white neighborhood and thought black people smelled funny. They were all scared to death about their property values. 1970, not a single black kid in my high school. Not one.

I don't recall any violence toward blacks around where I lived, but the welcome in the north wasn't a warm one. IM2 is right about that.

Yeah....it's funny how dems call the south racist yet the north is even worse.
I converse with a lot of black people that have moved to Texas from the northeast for job opportunities and they concur. They face less racism here than they did up north.
The south had/has that weird patriarchal vibe going on; blacks being among them is normal, but blacks are seen as recalcitrant children, not so smart and likely to cause trouble, but part of the family (sometimes literally).

Having never lived in the south or having any southern relatives, I base my understanding on Faulkner.
 
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Every one of my ancestors that I can find was here before 1700 and none of them owned slaves, but every person living in America benefitted from the fruits of slavery. And in 1964, everyone of my living relatives lived in an all white neighborhood and thought black people smelled funny. They were all scared to death about their property values. 1970, not a single black kid in my high school. Not one.

I don't recall any violence toward blacks around where I lived, but the welcome in the north wasn't a warm one. IM2 is right about that.

Yeah....it's funny how dems call the south racist yet the north is even worse.
I converse with a lot of black people that have moved to Texas from the northeast for job opportunities and they concur. They face less racism here than they did up north.
The south had/has that weird patriarchal vibe going on; blacks being among them is normal, but blacks are seen as recalcitrant children, not so smart and likely to cause trouble, but part of the family (sometimes literally).

Having never lived in the south or having any southern relatives, I base my understanding on Faulkner.

I dont see the children part.
There are a lot of black southerners that are considered rednecks,they ride rodeo,they farm and raise cattle just like the whites do.
We dont see them as any different than we are.
Now if they ride around blasting rap music in clapped out cars with no inspection sticker we treat em the same as we would white trash that does the same.
 
Every one of my ancestors that I can find was here before 1700 and none of them owned slaves, but every person living in America benefitted from the fruits of slavery. And in 1964, everyone of my living relatives lived in an all white neighborhood and thought black people smelled funny. They were all scared to death about their property values. 1970, not a single black kid in my high school. Not one.

I don't recall any violence toward blacks around where I lived, but the welcome in the north wasn't a warm one. IM2 is right about that.
Trillions of dollars spend since then and trillions of dollars more. Massive infusions of resources from government and private sectors and donations from citizens. When you look at videos of the uncivil ways that are endless in public places, it is dispiriting. All of the programs are run by laws passed from Progressive Socialist agendas. White people are fools to screw with anyone who is going to start a physical altercation at the first syllable. And just being in an area is enough for an altercation to happen. So by your post you are a white prog woman who lives in a diverse or mostly black area for your beliefs. A lot of Progs live far from this. But talk such a nice and stand uppish game that they are for the rainbow of crayola crayon colors that dot this planet known as gaia. It is easy to do that. And it does not cost anything especially when the good life comes first to the Prog Socialist who pushes it for others.
 
I know you are a failure in life, IM2, and that you see your only option involves these constant scams of yours involving using your skin color as a way to receive money for nothing through "reparations" for any of a number of things that have never actually happened to you, but there IS another way.

Have you ever considered learning a skill, instead, finding some gainful employment, and start working for a change instead of just whining and scheming as to ways you can get money without working at it?
Now this is demeaning and insulting based on your preconceived notions or prejudice against IM2 you do not know in person or know his experiences.

Dogmaphobe
IM2 is an extremely competent, effective and successful person with both the ability and luxury to argue on here and advocate using extensive research, knowledge and experience to back both the history and the dynamics of racial disparity and relations.

Just because we don't agree how to prioritize or present the blame for these problems doesn't mean IM2 is in any way inferior or lacking of skills!

Where are you getting THAT from,
except as an attempt to personally attack and troll someone.

IM2 is clearly competent or we wouldn't be having this very articulate debate over "white individualism" versus collectivism that is culturally manifested in African, Asian, Latino and Native cultures focused on community and cooperative economy.

Trying to master the best contributions from individual AND collective approaches, while preventing the abuses of either approach, involves equal respect and sharing.

Taking turns attacking and insulting each other back and forth only reinforces the boundaries or turf lines we already know exist.

If your point is to exert who is going to be the top dog in this fight, and who is going to bow to being insulted and bullied, I don't see IM2 agreeing to that.

We don't have to agree or respect each other's views and beliefs.

But we should understand that all people have rights to their beliefs and are going to defend them.

And that insulting or attacking someone just makes the attacker look bad or weak in deflecting and distracting from the real issues.

Clearly, IM2 is not going to change his mind or beliefs that white imposition of individualism is to blame for class disparity by enforcing a oneway bias.

If you can please address how can we expect to solve problems based on these biases, instead of trying to attack or undermine the credibility of people in opposition, we might make more progress!

Note: Apologies to IM2 for inserting my own pro-individualist opinion and perception here. If you can please put up with my way of communicating that you see as part of the white racist problem, I can certainly continue to put up with you "collectively" blaming me by classing me in with other white racists instead of using individualistic approaches to discern how I am saying something different from other white individualists who blame and discredit you for your beliefs instead of trying to work with you, as I advocate, given that you plan to keep those beliefs.
First of all, I would like to thank you for the unnecessarily long-winded lecture. Nobody is ever going to call you a woman of few words.

Is this the first time you have read any of his posts, though? I have read hundreds and hundreds and so have the other posters in this thread taking him on. He is quite simply THE most prolific racist in this entire forum, and his hatred of white people is so manifest that only a complete idiot would fail to notice.

My suggestion to you is that if you do not like racism, then DO NOT SUPPORT IT like you are most certainly doing here.
 
Every one of my ancestors that I can find was here before 1700 and none of them owned slaves, but every person living in America benefitted from the fruits of slavery. And in 1964, everyone of my living relatives lived in an all white neighborhood and thought black people smelled funny. They were all scared to death about their property values. 1970, not a single black kid in my high school. Not one.

I don't recall any violence toward blacks around where I lived, but the welcome in the north wasn't a warm one. IM2 is right about that.
How can you be warm and accepting of a people that were still living in the stone age?
 
It's not a good start when the first sentence is a lie. It is as truthful as saying "All the old people died off from the Corona Virus." Just because it happened a few times doesn't make it a scourge to a whole race of people.

American "Blacks" have a higher standard of living than Black people anywhere else on earth, and especially Black Africans. Start from there to weave your tale of woe.
 
It's not a good start when the first sentence is a lie. It is as truthful as saying "All the old people died off from the Corona Virus." Just because it happened a few times doesn't make it a scourge to a whole race of people.

American "Blacks" have a higher standard of living than Black people anywhere else on earth, and especially Black Africans. Start from there to weave your tale of woe.
IM2 blames the white race for everything negative in a black persons life.
 

Stop reading here. Slavery was over a hundred years before I was born. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RAVING LOON.
This is the verified proof that Brother IM2 is spot on...when a white supremacist like this squeals like a stuck pig.

#LOLGOP #TooFunny #CLASSIC
 

Stop reading here. Slavery was over a hundred years before I was born. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RAVING LOON.
This is the verified proof that Brother IM2 is spot on...when a white supremacist like this squeals like a stuck pig.

#LOLGOP #TooFunny #CLASSIC


Me being pissed off when assholes act like assholes is just proof that I can only take so much asshole-ness from assholes like you.

You asshole.
 

Stop reading here. Slavery was over a hundred years before I was born. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RAVING LOON.
This is the verified proof that Brother IM2 is spot on...when a white supremacist like this squeals like a stuck pig.

#LOLGOP #TooFunny #CLASSIC
The idiot doesn't want to face the fact of the Great Nadir which lasted into his lifetime and from which the effects we are still feeling today. The shit didn't end with slavery, he knows it didn't end with slavery and he knows he loses the argument if he dares to address the years after slavery ended.
 
More race baiting tripe.
Predictable, repetitive and quite frankly, old and boring.
Think I will move on from this daily trainwreck.
 
It's not a good start when the first sentence is a lie. It is as truthful as saying "All the old people died off from the Corona Virus." Just because it happened a few times doesn't make it a scourge to a whole race of people.

American "Blacks" have a higher standard of living than Black people anywhere else on earth, and especially Black Africans. Start from there to weave your tale of woe.
Nothing written was a lie. I will start where I started from because there are some very very rich ass Africans.
 
More race baiting tripe.
Predictable, repetitive and quite frankly, old and boring.
Think I will move on from this daily trainwreck.
You can't face the truth.
 
I
Every one of my ancestors that I can find was here before 1700 and none of them owned slaves, but every person living in America benefitted from the fruits of slavery. And in 1964, everyone of my living relatives lived in an all white neighborhood and thought black people smelled funny. They were all scared to death about their property values. 1970, not a single black kid in my high school. Not one.

I don't recall any violence toward blacks around where I lived, but the welcome in the north wasn't a warm one. IM2 is right about that.
How can you be warm and accepting of a people that were still living in the stone age?
You hide behind an excuse while you want to return to the past. That's what M.A.G.A. is all about.
 

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