I say "the worst" but in reality, they're all bad. The Abortion Industry has nothing on their side anymore: not science, not truth. They have talking points to win over the uninformed. That's all.
The one I particularly loathe is "My Body, My Choice". Stupid women love this one, but the stupidity is laughable. It's not your body, sweetheart. If it were your body, you could do what you like. Have your entire female organs removed, tattoo it up, pierce your entire face--I agree. Your choice.
But again. Not your body.
Your BABY'S body. Separate DNA, separate heartbeat, separate and unique set of fingerprints. Not yours. His. Or hers.
What other abortion talking points do you find stupid, laughable, both or other?
Yes and no
SweetSue92
The problem is that legislating and regulating abortion
through Govt is GOING TO AFFECT THE WOMEN carrying
the pregnancy, and not affecting the MEN even if the MEN
coerced the women to get into those situations to begin with.
That's where the protest is coming from.
Where is the outrage and commitment to stop MEN
from abusing women for sex with no responsibility for consequences?
That's the big question that is not being asked
and never been addressed by legislative battles focusing
on pregnancy AFTER THE FACT when it affects WOMEN more than men.
SweetSue92
To avoid the whole "catch-22" of not being able to protect
the life and rights of unborn persons without interfering with
the equal rights and freedom of women, where this process is taking place
inside their bodies, we'd have to agree on policies to PREVENT
unwanted pregnancy IN THE FIRST PLACE.
We prevent unwanted pregnancy, then we prevent abortion
and thus prevent abortion politics from pitting the beliefs
or rights of "one side vs. another" when "equal protection
of the laws" would require ALL SIDES' beliefs and interests to be
represented and protected EQUALLY.
If we cannot do that, if abortion laws would either compromise
ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER, then clearly ALL ABORTION would
have to be PREVENTED WITHOUT RELYING ON PASSING LAWS
unless all sides can AGREE on how such laws are written or enforced.
We'd have to stick to points and policies of agreement
that would effectively prevent unwanted pregnancy and abortion to begin with.
Then ALL rights and beliefs would be protected equally, by preventing
this conflicting situation from ever coming up in the first place!
You are just listing common sense and railing against biology--it's like making a fist and screaming at dark clouds that spill rain. You can do it, but it's unproductive and a waste of time.
Yes, women are the ones who get pregnant. It has always been so and, I suspect, will remain so for a very, very long time.
Yes, babies desperately need that human incubator. They need it for approximately nine months. Then they don't.
The vast majority of women become pregnant of their own volition. You can cry about the "patriarchy" or whatever, but really, they can take ownership. They were not raped. They were not "coerced". They were ignorant, or stupid, or lazy. Or a mix of those three. Listen, if we want to be strong independent women, then let's be strong independent women and not sniveling little girls about our biology. Let's not cry about the fact that we can get pregnant, but actually own it, like grown women.
Yup...you got us on that one
Women become pregnant. They are obviously ignorant, stupid or lazy. But the same conservatives who despise abortion also oppose funding for sex education, birth control and social programs to care for babies
But what happens when a woman becomes pregnant? Most choose to keep the babies. Some are faced with a difficult decision to terminate.
Conservatives could make that decision easier.....they don’t
Once again what part don't you get abortion is murder pure and simple?
Men's laws fluctuate like the wind, (prohibition and the like) depending how many people you can indoctrinate in your twisted sick ways...
Jesus commandments never change, only one god and love your neighbor as God loves you .I love ya but I don't have to associate with you in your evil ways..
Titus 3:9~10
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Dear
bear513
This is assuming that the soul of the person has already entered that body
so this constitutes a person legally with conscious free will.
However, it is not proven or disproven whether the soul can be kept from entering the body if the mother does not want the baby to be born.
Many other women I have talked with express similar experiences and belief
that the soul of the baby was not necessarily in the body
so that abortion affected the body but not the soul of that person.
In cases where the soul WAS integrated with the body,
yes, if the baby has the will to live and this is violated, then it
is the same process as murder.
If the soul wanted to enter and be born but was blocked,
that could be a form of abuse like coercing someone against their will.
This could go either way, if you believe some souls are not meant to be born
at that time even if they thought they wanted to.
And if the soul does NOT want to enter the body, as some women
report their children born later telling them they went away previously,
as if they had conscious memory of coming through before but
not being born or being miscarried or aborted, then this does
not fit the definition of murder - if the soul was not in the body
and didn't want to be but stayed out because they agreed it wasn't their time
to be born.
bear513 all this is faithbased and cannot be proven or disprove either way.
Clearly it is a SPIRITUAL process where the soul or consciousness of the
person may or may not have full control of whether to enter the body
and be born yet, or if there are spiritual reasons for not being born,
or suffering miscarriage, stillborn conditions, disease, abortion or other
such circumstances besides healthy normal birth.
The Government cannot be in the business of regulating or dictating
someone's spiritual experience and process, or our BELIEFS about this.
Since spiritual beliefs from all sides should be treated equally,
the best most effective solution to represent ALL people of ALL beliefs
in public policy is to PREVENT abortion and unwanted pregnancy to begin with.
Again the Govt CANNOT require that everyone go through spiritual counseling
before having relations, sex, or children; but if PEOPLE agree in advance to
get counseling to prevent unwanted situations, then we can still solve this problem.
It has to come from the PEOPLE since spiritual beliefs and process are involved
that are not Govt jurisdiction or business to regulate.
If we can AGREE to respect each others rights, beliefs and consent,
we can prevent and solve these problems to keep them OUT OF GOVT in the first place.
Everyone will be satisfied and represented by agreeing to prevent
abortion and unwanted pregnancy, including rape and abuse, at 100% rate.
If it's anything less, we are going to disagree, so I'd set the bar at 100% prevention
to make sure all grievances and objections are resolved and all beliefs are protected.
If it takes time to educate all people in all districts to prevent abuse and abortion,
then there should be a timeline set on an agreed schedule and plan for reducing the rates until 100% prevention is reached. In the meantime, people who don't believe
in funding abortion or any programs tolerating sex outside of married commitment
to start families, then we need to separate taxes and agree on a schedule until
abortion and abuse is completely eradicated so there is no more conflict over policy.
