Zone1 My advice to Muslims.

[Grumblenuts]

Except on the religion forum.

Except it's also the Ethics forum.

 

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Oh no, humans don't even know what science is. What a joke!

Science is the study of nature to discover the order within nature so as to be able to make predictions of nature.

 

[Woodznutz]

Except it's also the Ethics forum.

So, people should keep their ethics to themselves as well?

 

[Woodznutz]

You are probably right that most Christians don't understand the Bible and prophecy but you're wrong otherwise. All Israelites were Jews, even Samaritans.

There are two kinds of "Jews": Jews by religion and Jews by tribal ethnicity. The Israelites in Samaria were descendants of the ten tribed Northern Kingdom of Israel, also known as "the house of Israel". They weren't Jews.

 

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That makes no sense. Todays Christians are the decendents of those early Christians.

You should probably look up the meaning of descendants.

 

[Grumblenuts]

So, people should keep their ethics to themselves as well?

Less wood. More nuts.

What would really be nice is to keep Ethics and Religion separate, ya know,.. like they are in real life

 

[Woodznutz]

Less wood. More nuts.

What would really be nice is to keep Ethics and Religion separate, ya know,.. like they are in real life

I think they overlap quite a bit.

 

[Woodznutz]

If that verse supports you, I don't see it.

You have to study it, like students do in schools.

 

[alang1216]

There are two kinds of "Jews": Jews by religion and Jews by tribal ethnicity. The Israelites in Samaria were descendants of the ten tribed Northern Kingdom of Israel, also known as "the house of Israel". They weren't Jews.

The Israelites were Jews regardless of whether they practiced it or not. Got a link that says otherwise?

 

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Less wood. More nuts.

What would really be nice is to keep Ethics and Religion separate, ya know,.. like they are in real life

In real life they aren't separate. Our values are informed by who we are. Who we are is informed by our experiences. Religion - for some - is an integral part of both.

 

[alang1216]

You have to study it, like students do in schools.

You mean interpret it by telling us what God meant to say?

 

[Grumblenuts]

I think they overlap quite a bit.

Stating that religion and ethics "overlap quite a bit" concedes that they don't always. Ethics and lack of religion also "overlap quite a bit."

Religion - for some - is an integral part of both.

Same. Ethics is equally "integral" to atheists. Conceit is the only reason for exclusively lumping them together here. Ethics playing second fiddle behind Religion as though the former were somehow responsible for the latter. Atheists like myself are aware that we're being deliberately insulted. You may quit pretending otherwise and remove the clown shoes anytime..

 

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Same. Ethics is equally "integral" to atheists. Conceit is the only reason for exclusively lumping them together here. Ethics playing second fiddle behind Religion as though the former were somehow responsible for the latter. Atheists like myself are aware that we're being deliberately insulted. You may quit pretending otherwise and remove the clown shoes anytime..

There was no intention on my part to insult atheists. I wasn't even thinking of atheists when I wrote that.

I think you are reading way too much into my post. You argued they should be kept separate. I argued that that wasn't possible for some religious folks and explained why. So back the fuck up.

 

[surada]

Wrong. She was six when betrothed to him, nine when he consummated the marriage.

Revisionist history is a typical tactic for modern Muslims now embarrassed their prophet liked young girls.

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The problem is the hadiths were written in Persia 250 years after Muhammad.

 

[surada]

You are probably right that most Christians don't understand the Bible and prophecy but you're wrong otherwise. All Israelites were Jews, even Samaritans.

Four Arab tribes settled in Samaria during the Babylonian exile. That's why the Jews in Jerusalem scorned them.

 

[frigidweirdo]

God gave the birthright promises to Isaac, not Ishmael. Get over it.

9 And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking.

10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.

There's advice here?

 

[surada]

There's advice here?

Sarah was living in the pharaoh's harem twice.

 

[Woodznutz]

Stating that religion and ethics "overlap quite a bit" concedes that they don't always. Ethics and lack of religion also "overlap quite a bit."

Same. Ethics is equally "integral" to atheists. Conceit is the only reason for exclusively lumping them together here. Ethics playing second fiddle behind Religion as though the former were somehow responsible for the latter. Atheists like myself are aware that we're being deliberately insulted. You may quit pretending otherwise and remove the clown shoes anytime..

It seems to me that ethics are applied selectively while morals are applied generally.

 

[Woodznutz]

There's advice here?

What followed is that Hagar and Ishmael were indeed cast out.

 

[Woodznutz]

Four Arab tribes settled in Samaria during the Babylonian exile. That's why the Jews in Jerusalem scorned them.

The Assyrians carried away the notable Israelites of the Northern Kingdom leaving the poor, who were of no value to them. It is to these that Jesus, and the disciples, were sent.